View Full Version : TALLY HO II update
Ken Hutchins
09-25-2003, 08:05 PM
I havn't been too active on the forum the last few months cause I've been keeping myself sort of busy in the boatshed. So here is a view of where I spend my time.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid81/p689d5c57d6b6664536db7ea0e3e8aee5/fafd4abd.jpg
The only remaing planks are the shear planks, the port side will be the whiskey plank, but there will be a delay on that because I need to put in the remaining ribs -steam bent, bilge and shear clamps, etc before putting the shear planks on. I expect to be ready for bending ribs by Oct 8, so if any forumites in these parts of the world would like to help clamp, twist or thump on ribs there will be some to do each day for at least a week .
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid81/peb3af220b8e481aa9283e6aab5f73772/fafd4acb.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid81/pf1562c34713fdad7c309a8a6f516372d/fafd4ac1.jpg
Most of the planks are full length, but due to defects or more curve needed than what I could get out of the stock I had to join a few of the planks, this shows my scarf-finger joints in liew of butt blocks. This particular joint is located where a steam bent rib will be located, most of the joints are on ribs but a couple of them became :eek: and slightly missed the ribs but should not be a problem. I am real happy with these joints they react just like the rest of the plank when installing on the boat, they are all perfectly fair. I tested the first one by standing on the upper part of the ramp to the barn with the plank crossways and repeadly moved the plank up and down getting the ends whipping in excess of 10 feet I did this for about a minute without any sign of joint failure.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid81/p0a86206838a1833cc24385a518ebe544/fafd4aba.jpg
videoguy
09-25-2003, 08:21 PM
Ken you call that a boatshed WoW it looks like a whole shipyard to me and that is one fine looking boat. Thanks for posting the pic's...... smile.gif smile.gif Phil
Ed Harrow
09-25-2003, 10:02 PM
Ken, give me a heads-up when you get to that point, I'd love to come up and give you a hand for a day.
Ken, very nice! Sorry I won't be in the area to lend a hand, would like to be involved but its a long swim.
Lion
Banjo
09-26-2003, 04:51 AM
Ken what can I say but WOW :eek:
She has more curves than Marilyn Munroe ever did! ;)
I like your use of finger joint, they are very strong indeed with the right glue.
Keep us posted on your progress please.
Steve Lansdowne
09-26-2003, 06:07 AM
Please explain the term "whiskey plank." Thanks.
Originally posted by Steve Lansdowne:
Please explain the term "whiskey plank." Thanks.the “whiskey plank” is hung last(traditionally, shipwrights take a slug of whiskey to toast the final plank).
Beautiful Hull Ken! amd nice shop!! :D
PeterSibley
09-27-2003, 06:04 AM
Ken, absolutely lovely !I love that stern, lots and lots of bouyancy! I'm going to think about the finger joint..it looks good, I guess I'm just conservative.I'm thinking though !! smile.gif
Give me a shout when your ready to plank again. Have some free time starting the 10th.
abe
Art Read
10-09-2003, 11:33 AM
Oh, wow... You designed her yourself? Just beautiful! I remember your post about milling the framing lumber, but I don't think I'd seen any pictures of the boat itself before now. Did I miss 'em? I know you're a bit "preoccupied" with little things like actually building the boat, but please, you've GOT to remember to put up regular "updates" for us! This is just too cool not to share!
Roger Stouff
10-09-2003, 12:13 PM
Wonderful boat! Did you cut the finger joints by hand or with some kind of router/shaper bit?
Nice work!
Venchka
10-09-2003, 02:25 PM
smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif
How does one do it? I swear it looks like brain surgery or rocket science.
You do it well! Very well indeed!
Ken Hutchins
10-09-2003, 07:13 PM
The finger joints I do with a PC 3-1/4 HP router, I would not attempt to use such a cutter with a smaller router. This PC has a lot of weight and the inertia due to the heavy spinning armature, it even does an excellent job against the grain without any chatter. The other important thing is to make real accurate preliminary straight cuts as the router bit has a bearing that rides on the straight edge. Any error in the cuts or setting of the finger joint bit depth is doubled due to cutting one half from the inside and the other half from the outside of the plank. Once I got the router set I have not used it for anything else to avoid re-setup. I wound up buying an additional router (PC 1-1/2 hp) for doing other work to avoid the setup. smile.gif
Another real important item is the plank must be securely clamped to prevent any movement.
I'm router nuts I guess I now have 5 to save time by not having to change bits. :cool: The older I get the more important time is.
Another thing I've done with finger joints is where I had some knots on the edge of a few planks I cut the defect out with an arc shaped cut, added a graving piece fingerjointed. I turned the graving pieces 2 at a time on the lathe before fingerjointing and used a template and guide bushing for the arc on the plank. (that is why I got the new router). :D
Wayne, you asked how I do it? Well I have a T-shirt with a photo of the her bow & her name TALLY HO II on the front, on the back of the shirt is a photo of her stern and the statement "ONE PLANK AT A TIME". Perhaps that is a bit simplistic, but the fact is that how it is done. I learned something from a good friend who has antique cars how he always seemed to get a lot more work done on his cars than I could get done on mine (that's my other desease) :confused: "John, how do you get so much accomplished" I asked. He said "It is simple, my policy is never a day goes by without doing something on the cars, sometimes the time is spent planning the next days's work but it is time on the car, it may only be 5 minutes but it is 5 minutes closer to getting to drive it. Of course it usually extends to several hours".
I have an additional incentive to get this boat finished, that being I have a photo of my grandmother sitting in the cockpit of the original TALLY HO, she is shown holding my dad when he was a baby. :cool: Dad is now 86 and my strongest desire is to take him sailing on the new TALLY HO II. smile.gif
Venchka
10-10-2003, 09:53 AM
Originally posted by Ken Hutchins:
...I have a photo of my grandmother sitting in the cockpit of the original TALLY HO, she is shown holding my dad when he was a baby. :cool: Dad is now 86 and my strongest desire is to take him sailing on the new TALLY HO II. smile.gif Unplug your computer. Go work on the boat. Plug the computer in when you have pictures of your Dad sailing on TALLY HO. My Dad & I spent too much time talking about going back to places we fished together when I was kid. We never got back before he passed away. Go build your boat! smile.gif
imported_Steven Bauer
10-11-2003, 09:23 PM
Ken, bad news. I left the printout of your e-mail with your phone number and the directions to your house at home on the kitchen counter. We're still planning on stopping by Monday afternoon if that's still good with you. I can access my e-mail account, but only new messages. So I can't access the e-mail you sent me Thursday but if you send it again I can read it here in N.J.
Thanks,
Steven
PeterSibley
10-12-2003, 05:05 AM
"John, how do you get so much accomplished" I asked. He said "It is simple, my policy is never a day goes by without doing something on the cars, sometimes the time is spent planning the next days's work but it is time on the car, it may only be 5 minutes but it is 5 minutes closer to getting to drive it. Of course it usually extends to several hours". smile.gif Ken , thanks for that !! A very good reminder !And shes looking beautiful.
Norske3
01-03-2004, 05:12 PM
Hello Ken...any update/winter sub-boat-projects to report/....how long is your boat?; did you say...38 feet?
Ken Hutchins
01-03-2004, 06:48 PM
The last update was the colossal steaming post by Ed Harrow after his visit. I have since glued the minor splits a few of the ribs had and got them all sanded and varnished. Havn't got them riveted in place yet. Had to do catch up on some domestic chores, firewood - I heat the house with wood so this was vital, some new windows in the house, etc. Started on things to be done in the basement shop where it's warm, just made a jig to glue up the laminated roof beams for the cabin, got the stock ripped to size, tomorrow I will run these through the planner and glue up the first beam. Turned the sheaves for the blocks. The next items on my list is make the blocks and patterns for all the castings, also the bed for mounting the engine and do the final boring for the prop shaft. On the warmer days I will be riveting the bent ribs. If I get all the other small work done and winter is still here I will start splicing cable. Another winter project is more research on the original boat, this has been an ongoing part of the project. I recently found out about another book that just might have another reference to the boat, smile.gif a web search found a copy of it at a book dealer, and another copy at a historical association. I'm going to look at it next week, this has me real excited as it was written by one of the previous owners of the boat ;) , and the year published is just after he owned the boat :cool: , there is a chapter on yachting in the book. I will no doubt buy the book even if there isn't a reference to the boat, but the cost will pinch the boat budget a bit. :mad:
The boat stats are LOD 36', LWL 32', sparred length 60', beam 12.8', draft 5.5', disp 16 tons.
Art Read
01-04-2004, 02:32 PM
"...The boat stats are LOD 36', LWL 32', sparred length 60', beam 12.8', draft 5.5', disp 16 tons..."
Wow! I can't wait to see that underway! But 60 feet sparred length on a 36 foot hull? You planning to have the sprit fixed, or will you be able to haul it inboard for tying up at night? You DO know marinas and boatyards charge by the SPARRED length don't you!?! ;)
Ken Hutchins
01-04-2004, 09:00 PM
I do plan on being able to retract the sprit, at least part way, can't do much about the boom overhang. I knew it would be a problem, but that is one of those things that has to be accepted when doing a project like this.
Hughman
03-22-2004, 05:03 PM
Ken, after hearing your story about this project, I wanted to follow up with: WOW!
Post more pictures?
Cheers, Hugh
Ken Hutchins
03-22-2004, 06:27 PM
Hugh, glad you like it. Shirl is changing the web site so more photos will be posted there in a couple of weeks. You are welcome to visit anytime also.
Hughman
03-22-2004, 06:33 PM
ROAD TRIP!! :D
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