View Full Version : First attack on Saudi refinery

02-24-2006, 01:46 PM

Saudi security forces have foiled an apparent suicide car bomb attack on a major oil production facility in the eastern town of Abqaiq.
Guards opened fire on at least two cars carrying explosives as they tried to ram the gates, Saudi officials said.

BBC security correspondent Frank Gardner says the attack is the first direct assault on Saudi oil production

jack grebe
02-24-2006, 02:02 PM
there go the gas prices again :(

02-24-2006, 02:15 PM
not yet,,these guys didn't get past the gate.
Makes one think about GWs solution to have Saudi Arabia increase production as a solution to meet tight supply/demand bottlenecks.

02-24-2006, 02:51 PM
What the heck kind of security guards do they have in those places? Jeez. You could put a big flashing sign that says 'terrorists inside' on that car and the guards at my place of business would wave them on through.

Weeelllll, maybe it's not that bad, but a 2 hour gunbattle? Whatever those guys get paid they earned it today.

Mickey Lake

02-24-2006, 03:06 PM
not much between the lines to follow there :

The Associated Press news agency quoted an unnamed Saudi journalist as saying guards battled with two other militants outside the plant for two hours.

John of Phoenix
02-24-2006, 04:24 PM
Attackers have previously targeted oil company offices and compounds housing Westerners, while Saudi security forces have killed dozens of insurgents. They've "killed dozens" yet they keep coming?
How many can there possibly be?
Where do they all come from?
What do they want?

Send your replies to DRumsfeld@pentagon.gov

02-24-2006, 06:12 PM
Rumsfeld would call them terrists,not insurgents,,wait,,they aren't really together enough to be called terrorists, they're criminals,,no wait they can't be criminals,,they're, they're,,,do-badders

jack grebe
02-24-2006, 06:15 PM
no thats evil doers :D

John Gearing
02-24-2006, 10:19 PM
5 will get you 10 they are Saudi nationals. An attack on Saudi oil production facilities is long overdue, and was studied as far back as the Reagan sdministration. See Robert Baer's book "Sleeping with the Enemy". When Nasser drove out the Muslim Brotherhood (Islamic fundamentalist group, founded in Egypt, in 1928, who embraced terror as a means to accomplish 'regime change' with respect to arab states having the pan-arab nationalist pov), many of them found refuge in Saudi Arabia, where they eventually formed a mutually supportive relationship with Saudi Arabia's own Wahabbi sect of Islamic fundamentalists. Without simply scanning Baer's book into the computer and posting the whole thing here, this is what's going on, according to Baer:

The Saudi royal family is corrupt. They siphon off billions in "commissions" on every purchase the kingdom makes. They have been known to simply take private businesses away from their owners when those businesses begin to be highly profitable. They go abroad and drink, gamble, and enjoy prostitutes. The Wahabbi clerics have been angry over this for decades and would like nothing better than to bring down the royal family so as to purify Islam. Remember, the Saudi royal family controls the two holiest places: Mecca and Medina. Saudi Arabia has a very young population and a third-world birthrate. While college costs students little or nothing, most students major in Islamic studies. Upon graduation, most become instantly unemployed. They are easy targets for recruitment by the Wahabbis or the Muslim Brotherhood, assuming they have not yet been indoctrinated (since the Wahabbis run the 'madressa' school system).

Now the key part: the Saudi Royals are pretty scared of the Wahabbis. That's one big reason why the kingdom spends something like half their GNP on defense purchases. They may need those weapons to use against their own people. But, the royals have been contributing $$$ generously to groups like the Wahabbi, with the understanding that if they donate enough, the terrorists will make bad on someone else's patch. But the Saudi terrorists have not given up on their goal of bringing down the house of Sa'ud. They know that if they can shut off the oil from Saudi Arabia, they can cripple or perhaps even collapse the economies of industrialized nations.

Considering the number of Reaganites in the Bush Administration, I would think they would be less likely to be surprised at today's events. But maybe not, since this administration seems as determined as it's predecessors at pretending nothing's amiss in Saudi Arabia.