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Victor
03-13-2006, 08:08 PM
So what happens if we bring democratic elections to some nation and they elect their own Hitler? Is that Mission Accomplished?
huisjen
03-13-2006, 08:13 PM
You're confusing Hitler and Shrub. Easy mistake. Just look for the moustache on the dead guy and the smirk on the live one.

Dan

[ 03-13-2006, 09:14 PM: Message edited by: huisjen ]
Meerkat
03-13-2006, 08:15 PM
Whoo, Dan - you're on a roll tonight! :D
Osborne Russel
03-13-2006, 08:17 PM
Hitler was elected.
Meerkat
03-13-2006, 08:20 PM
Bush is a clear and present danger.

Depending on how you define "present" ;)
Paul Pless
03-13-2006, 08:30 PM
Hitler was elected. quietly laughing out loud - an extremely good point
ishmael
03-13-2006, 08:40 PM
Actually, Hitler wasn't elected. He was appointed Chancellor by Hindenburg in '33. The Nazis never received more than 37% of the vote, and their numbers had actually declined in the election before Hitler's appointment.

I forget the details of how the little bastard weaseled his way(someone will chime in. Martin?), but it's a common misconception that the German people elected him.
Victor
03-13-2006, 08:44 PM
Well yes and no. He got the most votes even at 37% I believe, sort of like Bush, and Hindenburg appointed him to avoid a parlamentary deadlock.
Meerkat
03-13-2006, 08:45 PM
I think the National Socialists had the greatest number of seats in the politicially fragmented Reichstag, which had recently mysteriosly burned... ;) :eek:
Larry P.
03-13-2006, 10:00 PM
"In November 1932 elections the Nazis again failed to get a majority of seats in the Reichstag. Their share of the vote fell – from 230 seats to only 196.
Franz von Papen (a friend of Hindenburg) was Chancellor, but he could not get enough support in the Reichstag. Hindenburg and von Papen were having to govern by emergency decree under Article 48 of the Constitution. They offered Hitler the post of vice-Chancellor if he promised to support them.
Hitler refused – he demanded to be made Chancellor. So Von Papen and Hindenburg took a risk. On 30 January 1933 Hindenburg made Hitler Chancellor. "

from various sources.
Osborne Russel
03-14-2006, 11:37 AM
OK he wasn't elected but it was still democratic -- he was appointed by a unitary executive, trustee of the national interest who must inevitably from time to time laws aside to fullfil his sacred duty to Volk und Vaterland in the Global War on Bolshevism.