How not to do it!

[imported_Conrad]

Wow- click on the link below, and read the description of the repairs carried out. I sure wish this guy had found the forum, and checked in- he now has mixxed metals below the waterline wrapped up in what will become a glass casket. Oh well, maybe he did check in, but looked in the bilge here first- UGH!! :D Anyway, a great case history on what to avoid.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2409334155&category=26432 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2409334155&category=26432)

[ 03-31-2003, 03:07 PM: Message edited by: Conrad S. ]

[thechemist]

Another one bites the dust.

*Sigh*

[Rocky]

And it smells like springtime in Paris! tongue.gif

[ 03-30-2003, 07:18 PM: Message edited by: Rocky ]

[tnert]

Someone stop him before he licks another toad!

[Mrleft8]

Looks like a sack of..... manure...... He didn't even bother to hide the bubbles, and sprung planks..... Sigh.....

[Wild Dingo]

ugh... gawd what a mess!!!! :eek:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid57/p53135881d884fe3425053679d1fc05e6/fc68a681.jpg

Look around the pic where the bricks are stacked makes an interesting shape in the chine no? :eek: ...and that fancy wriggling dark line in the bow mmmmmm yummm :rolleyes: and some of that work!! :mad: I mean wow!! ;) sorry but well you fellas said a bunch and so did he... bites the dust it is :(

[ 04-01-2003, 11:35 AM: Message edited by: Wild Dingo ]

[Matt J.]

We may have screwed up on SAGA, but I'd rather have seen her meet the fate she did than this... that's just NASTY. :eek: :( :rolleyes: :mad:

[Mrleft8]

Do you suppose that guy really thinks he did a good job? Or is he just trying to sucker some poor slob into buying his mistakes?

[Paul Griffin]

Let's get a gun and see if it really is "BULLETPROOF". :D

[TomRobb]

It's kind of touching that he's so proud of his work. :rolleyes:
I'd bet you couldn't get him to understand his problem if you tried.

[R.I.Singer30]

Over 600 visits.0 offers.

[Art Read]

This is just too outragious not to saved "for posterity"... :rolleyes:

" Vehicle Description:

This is a good example of using modern methods to cut down on maintence rather than a restoration, or worse yet, one of these tired old chris's that are being held together with luck and old paint. All planking was rescrewed with #8 stainless screws and countersunk- somewheres between 5000-7000 of em. This is the #5 Production hull, 32' not counting the teak swim platform.The entire boat up to the bootstrap is essentially a glass boat due to the nuetral density of the materials the actual in the water weight added to the hull is 3 to 4 hundred pounds.This is how it works- It's a product called Fabmat, four alternating layers of matte, then woven roving all sewn together into the thickness of a heavy blanket. The entire underwater section of the boat has a minimum of two layers of fabmat with overlap every 18" to build"hoop" strength. This is the Alan Vaites method, he realized that you CAN'T count on resin of any kind adhering to the wood so you use mechanical fasteners- ring nails on 4" centers through the first layer of fabmat while it is curing. The end product is about 3/8" thick, essentially a production hull formed on the wood. The benefit is that the wood CANT move, the covering is too strong to allow expansion, it's been finished for two years now and hasnt cracked, Oh the entire boat has been refitted with 5000+ screws before I even started covering. I also got tired of hunting down topside leaks and used a rubber floor covering over the topsides- TUFFCOAT is for industrial floors, over concrete,etc.- No leaks.I was ready to launch the boat last summer, motors were in, and I lost my slip. To be honest, the only way I could afford the boat was with that slip, slips here run about $7000 a year. I sold the motors. Now I'm looking for a good home for the boat, it's not without flaws, there's a lot of cleaning to be done, sanding and varnish, some cushions should be re upholstered although the bunks are OK. Someone stole the Spotlight, apart from that it's pretty much all there, including a working autopilot. The hard work is done but I need to move it out, I'm doing another project. PICS- In one shot there's two dips near the Bronco's headlight- There are two sistered ribs there, the one dip is covered by the fabmat covering and is underwater so who cares, and the other is structurally sound so I didnt fix it. Almost everything I spent my time and money on is stuff people cant see but this is one tough boat.


Vehicle Condition"

Needs cosmetics and motors, otherwise-BULLETPROOF..."


(Sounds like he "lost his slip" before he ever got a chance to put it back in the water. Good thing! :eek: )

[ 03-31-2003, 11:56 AM: Message edited by: Art Read ]

[Bob Adams]

This is why wood boat people have such a hard time finding a marina to take them, they think they all are like this. Well, wait a minute, maybe not that bad! Damn that's nasty.
Bob
(The lone woodie in my marina :D )

[ 03-31-2003, 10:59 PM: Message edited by: Bob Adams ]

[WFK]

I think my favorite part is "the woood can't move". :rolleyes:

[Cedarhill Boatworks]

I'll bet anyone, anyone, that there is astroturf in the cockpit. Any takers?

[Rocky]

Someone should invite this guy and his mentor, Alan Vaites, to the forum.

[ 03-31-2003, 08:36 PM: Message edited by: Rocky ]

[Concordia..41]

Geeze!!! What a bunch of critics!!!

The poor guy can't spll ;) worth a poot, obviously doesn't possess a book on grammar or punctuation, and he just lost his dock slip. <imagine crying smile here>

He admits the motor's gone, that it's "not without flaws" and needs cleaning, sanding, varnishing and a couple of cushions re upholstered [sic]. It's kindof hard to understand without a motor, but the autopilot works. And besides, the bulges from the sistered ribs are underwater. ;)


I'm going back down to the bilge where I'm more accustomed to the bashing. tongue.gif

-M

[ 03-31-2003, 08:03 PM: Message edited by: Concordia..41 ]

[Concordia..41]

Books by Allan H. Vaitses (http://www.growinglifestyle.com/psearch/Author/Book/Allan_H._Vaitses/)

[ 03-31-2003, 10:00 PM: Message edited by: Concordia..41 ]

[R.I.Singer30]

Maybe we should just chip in and refund him his $15.95 for the price of the book?

[Peter Malcolm Jardine]

Hmmm or suggest he rename his book "Destroying old wooden boats with ********** "

The real tragedy is that the treatment described above is probably not cheap. Oy :rolleyes:

This reminds me of the houseboat at our marina that consists of old furnace oil tanks welded together for a hull... It's something to see..but this guy took a nice boat and butchered it.. :mad:

By the jesus lads, I got sooo tired of chasing them there topside leaks so I fired up the tar pot and just drenched the sum bitch in 700 degree roofing tar.. let it harden and put 4 coats of sears weatherbeater paint on er and she looks like new dad gummit :rolleyes:

[ 03-31-2003, 11:27 PM: Message edited by: Peter Malcolm Jardine ]

[Art Read]

"...it's not without flaws..."

;)

[Scott Rosen]

And to think of the time and money he spent to make that boat look like that . . .

[Rocky]

Not tar, Peter, that's for them woodenboat weenies. I put a real sealer on it - rubber floor covering! Looks just like a new boat, dont it?

[Concordia..41]

Cedarhill - Blue or Green????

- M

[Concordia..41]

You guys are a bunch of amatures - haven't you seen the wood grain contact paper they've got out??? Just the thing :D

Let me go suggest that for Lulu's toe rails...

[TomRobb]

So, how about teak contact paper for the deck if astroturf is too lubberly?

[Rocky]

Hey tjw, don't take it personal and don't sneak around, I never check private messages anyway. I'm sure he's the finest boatbuilder in the world and I don't know whether this guy did it his way or not. Sounds like he's got the wood sealed up pretty well from both sides, so how's it gonna not rot? Do your boat this way and let me know how it turns out. I still say someone should invite Vaitses to the forum, sounds like he knows a thing or two.

[ 04-02-2003, 11:19 AM: Message edited by: Rocky ]