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Alan D. Hyde
02-21-2006, 02:22 PM
A three-hundred-year-old receipt---

one pint lime juice

two pints cherry syrup

three pints rum

four pints water

*******

Mix in punch bowl, garnish with cherries and limes, and then drink. :D

*******

Alan

* By 1750, U.S. rum consumption averaged 8 gallons per year per person. If we leave children out of this calculation, it's more like 16 gallons @...

[ 02-21-2006, 02:28 PM: Message edited by: Alan D. Hyde ]

uncas
02-21-2006, 02:24 PM
What!...No ice....?

Popeye
02-21-2006, 02:32 PM
aka grog

uncas
02-21-2006, 02:34 PM
hence the term "groggy"

Popeye
02-21-2006, 02:35 PM
but first 'three sheets to the wind'

Alan D. Hyde
02-21-2006, 02:46 PM
"Grog," After Admiral Vernon, "old grogam," from the name of the fabric from which his ever-present boat cloak was made.

Alan

Popeye
02-21-2006, 03:01 PM
rum with water ~ grog /w lime juice (because the Admiralty was too cheap to buy lemons) hence the English sailors were called 'Limey(s)'

LeeG
02-21-2006, 03:02 PM
I'd rather have a tab of xtc and some lemonade

Paul Pless
02-21-2006, 03:05 PM
one pint lime juice

two pints cherry syrup

three pints rum

four pints water
sounds like a waste of perfectly good rum tongue.gif

John B
02-21-2006, 04:20 PM
It'd be interesting to know what the alchohol by volume in the rum would typically be back then.

Alan D. Hyde
02-24-2006, 01:03 PM
Jeff, :D :D :D

Alan

Popeye
02-24-2006, 01:20 PM
Alcohol percentages were pretty much the same then. not really

Popeye
02-24-2006, 01:48 PM
actually , yes

http://www.rum.cz/galery/nam/ca/nfld/img/ca37.jpg

Paul Pless
02-24-2006, 02:29 PM
I visited the Constitution a couple of years ago and the individual giving the tour mentioned that one of the duties of the marines on board was to make sure the sailors immediately drank their daily ration of rum so that they could not horde it and drink several rations at once. :D

John E Hardiman
02-24-2006, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by Ironmule:
LITTLE KNOWN NAVAL HISTORY
The USS Constitution (Old Ironsides)... <snip>

...Jeff SmithUh....Jeff, check the dates and places in that little sea story... :rolleyes:

Also note that at a daily ration of 8oz for the 460 men, officers didn't get a ration, the 79,400 gallons would be for 2,761 days or over 7 years. Or the fact that weight of even the stores listed (which doesn't include the pound of bread and pound of cheese/peas/meat per man per day for 6 months which was required) almost exceeds 1/3 the displacement of the entire ship.

Uncle Duke
02-24-2006, 03:38 PM
I'm concerned, too, about the numbers which are delivered earlier, regarding amounts of rum. Ship with 400 persons would (British Navy) dispense 400x2 oz per day, maximum. That would be (duh!) 800 oz per day, or 6.25 gallons per day. Over a standard cruise of 100 days (before replenshment), that would be (another 'duh!') about 600 gallons.
Regarding alcohol content, my understanding of the roots of "Proof" ('100 proof', '151 proof', etc) was that the alcohol would be mixed with gunpowder in a 50/50 mixture (no - I don't know if by weight or be volume, but thanks for asking....)
A match would be applied. It it then burned, it would be judged as "100 [%] proved" - i.e., 100 "proof"
As a side note - if you type "proof" enough, it really starts to look like a stupid mis-spelling....

[edited because I cannot spell correctly all the time. Oh well.....]

[ 02-24-2006, 03:40 PM: Message edited by: Uncle Duke ]

Meerkat
02-25-2006, 02:32 AM
I wonder what they really did with that powder and shot? All they had to do was find them (no small feat when you're that drunk), stagger up and breathe on them! :D

Hell, even the brass monkeys must have been drunk! :D

A VERY happy ship! :D