Near Death and Proof of the Other Side

[Leon m]

Jacks thread got me thinking...

I once met a man who died(major heart attack) and came back from the other side,He was a good friend of my fathers (Max was his name).He was a college professor,and a very piecfull man. I was in my teens when he told me of his near death experience.Ever since then I have believed that there truly must be an "Other Side".

Any one else have an experiance with such matters?

[Wild Wassa]

A few years ago Australia's richest man Kerry Packer had a heart attack and died. He was revived after about 9 minutes of having no life.

He said he saw the tunnel of bright light, which I think people have refered to as a massive endorphin explosion at the time of death.

He said I've been there, and I can tell you there is definately nothing there.

Humans aren't special enough for there to be anything elsewhere, after we cark it ... and if there is we are only going to end-up amongst the same bastards that currently plague us here on earth. I don't want to go there, I want to get away from them.

Warren.

[ 03-03-2006, 04:19 PM: Message edited by: Wild Wassa ]

[Alan D. Hyde]

I've never been dead, although I've come close two or three times, depending on how I count things. One time, v e r y close...

There's something there.

Illumination.

Alan

[TomF]

I've written before about my wife's mystical (though not near-death) experience. I also think there's something there.

t.

[Tristan]

My impression is that everything is linked. We are not separate "machines" cranking along, separated from the rest of the Universe. While the "other side" might not include individual personalities such as "me" and "self," we don't end at our skin. See "The Field," by Lynne McTaggart, "Energy Medicine, The Scientific Basis," by James L. Oschman, and "A Practical Guide to Vibrational Medicine," by Richard Gerber. People seem to die, then hear and see, for a while anyhow, their body and what is going on around them, so the dying, at least might include a transitory phase in which "me" hovers about. All said and done, from a modern physics standpoint, we are but a field of energy, energy, however, which includes information. And we are surrounded by similar fields of information bearing energy. Obviously such a view steps away from views of some, and I honor their views too.

[ 03-03-2006, 04:36 PM: Message edited by: Tristan ]

[ishmael]

Mmm. There's a study afoot I read about a year ago. I haven't heard how it's going.

Anyway, there's enough interest to place a screen up at the ceiling in operating theatres. The screen has some message or image only a person looking down from the ceiling can see. The idea is this. Often in serious operations the patient reports a near death experience. That, often, entails the astral body floating above the theatre, looking down, reporting what is going on. If even one person reports what's on that screen...well you get the drift.

I don't need proof. There is no question that human consciousness lives apart from the body. Been there. I would like to know more about it. The great mystery is what happens next. I don't suppose we'll ever understand that. Though people comfortable with the separation have reported things.

Monroe's work in this area is worth a look.

[Norman Bernstein]

It seems to me that the common, and most useful, definition of the word 'dead' is as a description of the permanent state, not the transitory one. Therefore, anyone who says he's 'dead and 'came back to life' would be more correctly described as 'nearly dead', not 'dead'.

Many people apparently give the 'bright light' account of a near death experience. Nobody knows if it's a glimpse into the spiritual world... or just some physiological/nuerological response to their dire condition. From my point of view, it could be either one.

The next time someone GENUINELY dies, and comes back to life... I'll be sure to ask :D

[ishmael]

It's acknowledged by serious researchers as near death, not dead. Though people have been pronounced, and come back, sometimes long after any hope was abandoned.

Odd, and striking, things happen.

I'm glad for these sorts of threads. Twenty years ago the idea was laughed at. Freud called such musings a great illusion; a fear and hunger response to ultimate ends. Freud was wrong. ;)

[Meerkat]

I once saw a bright light at the end of a tunnel...

Next thing I knew, someone held me upside down and swatted me on the butt. :D

[uncas]

My mother...after several close calls...well perhaps even brought back...said the same thing as some others here have...She mentioned these to us several times...and also said that she was no longer afraid of dying...