Boat building in India

[Zumsel]

I just want to share some pics of a 60' wooden boat which was built last year in India.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/pe29920a48bcd3f18f046c9a52a58b5f5/f9c71a71.jpg
From tree to keel to......

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/p545882c589ce6c6805d7b60418699605/f9c71a4f.jpg

And here is the Link to the Album:

http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4287848165

I hope you will enjoy it!
Jochen

[ 01-29-2004, 07:41 PM: Message edited by: Zumsel ]

[Domesticated_Mr. Know It All]

WOW! :eek:
Cool. :cool:
What kind of wood is that?
Peace---> Kevin in Ohio

[guillemot]

Awesome! Any idea what type of design/rig she is?
It looks like the deck is flush with the sheer, is that right?
Jeff

[kng]

what a big boat !! an other image..
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/p114e4d28da57d00c220bba8d07e10a89/f9c71a42.jpg

[brian.cunningham]

:eek:

[WOODZOWL]

Nice! smile.gif J.M.

[Alan D. Hyde]

Beautiful.

One more photo:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/pf3bd9e7a97abf9d49da1bf5a8c5343cb/f9c71a60.jpg

Thanks for a great post.

Alan

[Zumsel]

Okay, some informations as far as I have them. She is a an ocean-going boat that will be rigged up to resemble the 18th century Mediterranean pirate ship Bombarda. The hull is 60ft long and 20 ft wide.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/p4143534ab5bbafb903c5b055e3fa99ae/f9c54cda.jpg

The hull planking is made out of wild jack wood (artocarpus hirsuta)- a species which is approved for boat construction by the FAO (the UN's Food and Agriculture Organisation). It is a durable, resilient timber with golden brown colour and density lesser then teak.

The hull planking is copper nailed onto sawn transverse framing and riveted on the inside over copper washers.

I'm in contact with the Italian naval architect of this 60’ vessel and the boat builder in India has already built several other wooden boats to his design. One for the designer himself. These boats are now for more then seven years in use and according to the designer, the owners are more then satisfied. One of these boats, the 46’ Wanda shown here, won a price at the wooden boat show in La Rochelle.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/p9b50e1014327c3f63b385d716280cb5e/f9c544e9.jpg

I have got several quotes from this builder ranging from 46’ to 57’. But I’m not sure if it is okay for that forum to post them here.

All the best
Jochen

[Alan D. Hyde]

Thanks, Jochen.

If you have no financial interest in the builder, then the common practice of this Forum is to exchange price information for public benefit. It's promoting your own economic enterprises in a direct way that is discouraged.

More information on vessels like this may encourage the building and preservation of more wooden boats... :D :D :D

Alan

[Zumsel]

Okay, some short price info. And no!!!! I have no financial interest in the boat builder or his company. I only like his work!!!!

Here is a quote for the 46' long Wanda which I got from him:

A. BASIC BOAT
1. Structurally complete boat hull inclusive of deck, wheelhouse and cabin superstructures.
Construction: carvel planked wooden hull of mainly wild jack wood (artocarpus hirsuta). Wheelhouse and cabin coachroofs of marine plywood with wooden framing.

Hull planking thickness: 1-5/8" thick
Transverse framing: 3-1/2"x3-1/2" spaced 12" CtoC.
Longitudinals: 1-1/2"thick x 6" - 8 pairs
Deck planking: 1-1/2" thick
Fastenings: Copper and bronze fastenings throughout hull. Stainless steel bolts for deck beams and fenders.
2. Bulkheads - 3 nos,
3. Engine beds - 1 pair.
4. Berths - 6 to 8 nos.
5. Toilet compartments (bare)
6. Bilge de-watering: Rubber hose/ G.I piping and impeller pump system run from main engine.
7. Wardrobes and stowage shelves; galley platform and SS sink; centre table.
8. Timber masts - 3 nos; timber spars - 7 nos; riggings for masts.
9. M.S. Fuel Tanks - 2000 lts cap. and G.I. fuel pipings.
10. FRP-lined Freshwater tanks - 2000 lts cap. and G.I. water pipings.
11. Wooden rudder on SS stock; wire and pulley type mechanical steering system with reduction; teakwood steering wheel.
12. Finish: All timber surfaces (excluding areas for varnishing/FRP sheathing) covered with 2 coats of red lead paint and 2 coats of enamel paint. Hull exterior chiselled down and sanded before application of paints.

Price per boat as above, FOB Mangalore Port (Customs cleared for export): US $67,000/-
Sales Tax/Duties chargeable: Nil for export out of India

Delivery period: 5 to 8 months from the date of order confirmation

Price per 16mt long Boat: For basic boat as above with Hull Length increased to 16mt and all other specifications remaining unchanged, the price, FOB Mangalore port (Customs cleared for export) is: US $75,000/-

Sounds interesting. Or? :D :D :D

And one in India manufactured 6 cyl Simpson/Perkins P6.354 Marine Diesel installed in the boat inclusive one 2/3:1 ratio mechanical gearbox and matching sterngear adds another US$9,600

Jochen

[imported_Steven Bauer]

Wow! Where does the line form? Sounds good to me!

Steven

[Alan D. Hyde]

From what I can see from the photos, that's an excellent buy.

You couldn't come close to that price here.

I'd want taller bulwarks with adequate washports, though.

Alan

[ 01-30-2004, 04:32 PM: Message edited by: Alan D. Hyde ]

[guillemot]

That is unbelievable! Wow. Nowhere close to that is right, even if I built it myself out of salvaged, rotten 2x4s!

Thanks for sharing. Must show to SWMBO! :D ... :D :D

What do you all speculate that it would cost to have that same boat constructed professionally in the US? Based on a conversation with a Malabar 2 builder last summer, I would guess at least $800,000 in construction costs alone and maybe 1.2-1.4 mil by the time it's all done. Am I way off? Someone help me.

Jeff

[mic]

Unreal! :eek:
I suppose this builder will build to any specification.

[Nora Lee]

I guess this is why our corporations are outsourcing everything to India tongue.gif

Nora

[JimD]

Absolutely beautiful, but 20 foot beam on a 60 foot deck? Was a 3:1 ratio that common?

[carioca1232001]

Now you people are going to really drool ...............the export price of a wooden boat of similar size and finish built in BRAZIL is HALF (50%) of what it is in INDIA !

Additionally, BRAZIL has an infinite variety of fine tropical woods for you to build your wooden boat.

BTW, the jackfruit tree (from Asia) introduced here 450 years ago by the Portuguese colonisers is propagating so vigorously, as to stifle other vegetation in the hills around Rio de Janeiro.

In view of this, our Mayor´s office has recently disclosed a plan to fell jackfruit trees for this very reason.

So, if you want to use jackfruit lumber for the hull planking, it´s yours for the taking !