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Memphis Mike
12-08-2002, 09:46 AM
If anyone ever runs across one of these
within a 200 mile radius of Memphis, I
want it.

http://www.aomci.org/gallery/images/TomGoepfrichCrossBoat3.jpg

JimD
12-08-2002, 10:40 AM
Nice! What's the engine?
jimd

Memphis Mike
12-08-2002, 12:22 PM
I'm not sure Jim. Ke7 will know. This
boat is of the type my dad used to
build. Not exactly the same but real
close. I want one of these or a Penn Yan
to restore.

Mr. Know It All
12-08-2002, 12:27 PM
Oh Yeah. :cool: I'm gonna ask Santa for one of those.

Kevin in Ohio

ken mcclure
12-08-2002, 02:36 PM
A rotary engine! too cool for me :cool:

John B
12-08-2002, 03:24 PM
That would be a radial engine wouldn't it? The "old" Rotary had a block plus propeller( aeroplane, le rhone etc..) rotating around a fixed crank. The "new" rotary is the triangular rotor type you'd find in Chads RX7, NSU etc.

Fantastic looking thing whatever.

ion barnes
12-08-2002, 04:48 PM
Cheers to John, you're right on the money. Its a surprise to me when I cross paths with someone else who can pickup the obscure details. I am really interested to hear about the history of that motor. I can not hear you!

John B
12-08-2002, 06:00 PM
Yes, well. Tally ho and all that. Biggles and Ginger. I'm going in for a look!!

Peter Malcolm Jardine
12-08-2002, 06:39 PM
I have never seen a radial outboard in my life! that is incredibly cool. Radials were quite popular in aircraft 50 to 60 years ago right?

lumberdude
12-08-2002, 06:42 PM
Mike, that construction looks alot like my boat. Does anyone know where I can find info on these tomahawk boats?

Kory

John B
12-08-2002, 06:46 PM
can you imagine what the torque reaction would be like on that baby.

5 degrees port rudder( or stbd... I don't know which way it turns)...brace yourself... select forward.!!

Pretty decent looking knee there. Wonder if the one on the other side is bigger or smaller.LOL.

[ 12-08-2002, 07:50 PM: Message edited by: John B ]

Peter Malcolm Jardine
12-08-2002, 07:40 PM
Hey.. I have all my dad's Biggles books... Biggles sweeps the desert, Biggles fails to return, etc.

Wild Dingo
12-08-2002, 09:20 PM
okay seems I gotta be the odd man out... on another thread some were usin the word UGLY FUGLY downright ugly buttugly in describing trimarrans... well Im gonna be the first to say it that my friend is SERIOUSLY BUTT UGLY
and plain weird! :rolleyes: tongue.gif

Take it easy
Shane

Mrleft8
12-08-2002, 09:39 PM
Is that a canister of nitrous oxide I see there?

John B
12-08-2002, 09:56 PM
Shane, Shane, shane shane... How can you say that? :D It's glorious. 5 cylinders of heart thumping valve bouncing rib shuddering glory.and goodness knows what it would do to the boat.
Man. that is a MACHINE. I stood next to an old McClaren Can Am car when it fired up and I went cold all over. That motor, my friend, would do the same I just bet.

Any info on it?

John Bell
12-09-2002, 09:48 AM
I just did some looking for more info on that motor. It's apparently a 1929 Cross Radial Sea Gull. Five cylinders, about 50 hp.

Here is an article about someone who found one and got it running again. (You have to hit the "next" link at the bottom of each page to see entire article.)

http://www.infoblvd.net/sah/Outboarder/1976/oct76-24.html

Very interesting. I'd love to see and hear one run.

John B: Standing at the exit of turn 7 at Road Atlanta feeling the concussion of a 7 liter McLaren Can-Am car as it comes out of a 2nd gear corner, blasting down the back straight to 200+ is an awesome sight. Just being there got your adrenaline pumping, imagine being in the cockpit!

[ 12-09-2002, 10:50 AM: Message edited by: John Bell ]

Memphis Mike
12-09-2002, 10:15 AM
http://www.aomci.org/gallery/index.htm

Heres the link where I found it.

Memphis Mike
12-09-2002, 10:18 AM
And another pic.

http://www.aomci.org/gallery/images/TomGoepfrichCrossRadial2.jpg

Noah
12-09-2002, 10:29 AM
That is just about the coolest thing I have ever seen. I have a real thing for Radial engines, and I would love to hear that baby run.

I would also imagine that 50hp on that little boat must be quite a ride!

Like I said, I want one!

Wild Dingo
12-09-2002, 10:58 AM
aahhhhh well I seem to be in the minority... sigh... never mind... the boat looks good... just a flamin shame about that great lump of crome thingymajig whacked on the back like a flamin great boil!! tongue.gif

Oh and I havent gotten into those ear splittin gut wrenchin head ache producing noise machines at the speedways for flamin donkeys years!... Ugggh couldnt think of a worse way to spend me day... but hey thats just me :rolleyes: ... you fellas go for it!! :D

Still think it looks weird! tongue.gif

Take it easy
Shane

John B
12-09-2002, 01:56 PM
You'd think it would be really hard to start but he says not.
thanks for the link. 50hp, but it would be interesting to know what the torque is like. pppplenty, I would think. it would probably drive a much bigger boat at the same speed.

Memphis Mike
12-09-2002, 03:15 PM
Dingo, this is a boat for us young
whipper-snappers. ;) You're probably
better off sticking to something
propelled by bedsheets. :D

Mr. Know It All
12-09-2002, 04:25 PM
I was toying with the idea of twin outboard motors for my 16 ft. Lyman until I saw this picture.

http://www.outboardracing.com/core/images/Image01.jpg

It cured me of any desire I had to overpower a 41 year old wooden boat.

:D
Kevin in Ohio

ishmael
12-09-2002, 04:31 PM
Twins on a sixteen, what are you nuts Kevin? ;)

BTW, it's also a rather interesting strip built boat in Mike's original post. I can't quite make out the manufacturer from here. Tomahawk? Any info?

[ 12-09-2002, 05:32 PM: Message edited by: ishmael ]

Mr. Know It All
12-09-2002, 08:32 PM
Ish.....The original motor was a 1961 75HP Johnson 4 stroke. I was thinking 2 35HP, but have amended that thinking to 1 35HP motor. I've seen what they cost and one's enough for me. :D

Noah
12-10-2002, 07:38 AM
I think I would go with a new 50hp on a 16ft Lyman. We started off using a 35, and it just didn't have enough umphh. We now run a 40hp, and we can get up to about 24 mph, but that is top speed. I would think that a 50 will get you into the 28 range, which is just about right for the boat.

BTW, this is all on our 1957 16.5 ft Lyman.

Noah