rigging halyards

[ddeaton]

What are the opinions on mounting the halyard cleats on the cabin top or the vertical cabin wall in the cockpit? I have seen it done both ways, but have never asked the perks of either. I have seen pics with a copper chaffing strip running along the cabin edge and the cleats on the vertical cabin wall. Looks a little less crowded on the cabin topsides.
Thanks,
Danny

[ddeaton]

Dumb question I guess?

[capt jake]

Dumb question I guess?Not at all! If you had a picture of your situation, it may help out. On my boat, it just seemed natural to run them on the cabin top. In my case, they are easily accessable while also being out of the way. I suppose this would differ depending upon the design/layout of the boat.

[Art Read]

Here's my preference...

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid114/p382a0230a73f3d55d9ae00e818ea4cce/f8daa8d6.jpg

[ddeaton]

No pictures yet, just trying to plan ahead. It will be on a 17" catboat. I go back and look at all the pictures that I took this past summer from the boat show and only catch a glimpse of what I want to see.
Thanks,
Danny

[capt jake]

I am set up similar to Art, except I used cam cleats. Kind of hard to see in this photo (only one I have) but I think you can grasp the idea. I now have several of the color coordinated 'bags' to hold the unused line. smile.gif
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid102/p448cf6b15de8f98ebb0e0e41bdbbfb47/f9b6bd1d.jpg

[Ian McColgin]

17' cat boat. Does she have a cuddy cabin or a flat deck like a Beetle Cat?

If the latter, you're pretty much forced to have the cleats on deck ahead of the combing.

If the former, the nature of the companion may dictate keeping the coils up on the coachroof, thus ensuring that the cleats are there also.

If the companion admits hanging the coils on the aft side of the cabin, then cleats on the coach roof should be close enough to the back edge that the end of the cleat is just about there - not protruding into the cockpit but right close. That way, the coil can be finished by a bight from the standing part (between coil and cleat) through the coil and up over the forward horn of the cleat, maybe with a twist. That will hold the coil securely and ready for instant use.

Hanging the coils works the same way if you put the cleats verticly on the aft side of the cabin.

In each case, of course, you'll remember the angle the forward or upper horn of the cleat a bit inboard such that the throat and peak hallyards can be belayed clockwise with no danger of the line stress jamming the hallyard.

You really need to go with the cleats up on the roof if the verticle space on the aft side of your cabin is too short to hang a coil without it getting tangled in someone's feet as they step up on the seat to go foreward.

Otherwise, your call on aesthetics.

To contain the fall, many prefer to flake or stuff it into bags, rather than hang a coil on a cleat. It's risky to coil and stuff into a bag as the coil's twist will have a hard time coming out. I never liked bags myself but they work for a certain sort of sailor.

G'luck

[James River Rat]

Cabin top...otherwise you have a cleat in the back when you ar at anchor enjoying the susnet.....

[Ian McColgin]

Actually, if the bight loop hang it on the cleat approach is done rightly, the cleat on the cabin is not a problem and with either cabin top or cabin back the coil should remain intact and in place nicely enough to be a finastkind backrest.

What'e'r the choise, G'luck

[ddeaton]

http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2118787737&idx=4

[ddeaton]

http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2118787737&idx=4

[ddeaton]

I thought I knew how to post pics!

[ddeaton]

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid195/p724191978a0393db8d358b7d10a73c32/f140966e.jpg

[John B]

too quick for me eh , you worked it out ( image deleted) :D

[ 11-29-2005, 10:58 PM: Message edited by: John B ]

[ddeaton]

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid195/p1946a75d5477ca50d15578efa67b69a1/f14094e6.jpg
Finally!

[ddeaton]

This is the beast I am planning to rig this winter.

[capt jake]

From my perspective; running them accross the cabin roof seems like the logical approach.

Nice looking boat. smile.gif

[ddeaton]

Thanks for all the replies. I hate to be anal about it, but we have just gotten this sailing bug this past year. This is the first hobby I have had in 45 years that the better half gets more excited than me about. Now my honey-do list is lined out with picking paint colors for the deck and cabin, seating arrangements, and cabin door styles. I was a plastic ski boat guy for years, and cant stand the cheap s%#t they use for electrical and plumbing. I now have a half finished Penobscot 17 and 2 catboats. You guys are bad for me!