eBay - BIG catamaran

[brian.cunningham]

Cat SPONSORSHIP for sale - TeamAdventure Sailboat (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=26433&item=2471999516&rd=1)
http://i4.ebayimg.com/03/i/01/9d/c1/9c_1_sb.JPG

enough overlap for ya? :D
http://i15.ebayimg.com/03/i/01/9e/24/dd_1_s.JPG

EDIT - did not realize they were looking for sponsorship. Posted for pictures of the boat. I'm into multihulls. No association.

[ 04-13-2004, 10:48 PM: Message edited by: brian.cunningham ]

[Hwyl]

The boat is not for sail, just the opportunity to sponsor it. Is this a new low?

[ 04-14-2004, 09:33 PM: Message edited by: Hwyl ]

[formerlyknownasprince]

Wow - Cam Lewis "won the Americas Cup" is it just me who thinks this a little odd? I thought the Americas Cup was a team event. Hopefully he wasn't the goose that wrote that.

Ian

[Paul Scheuer]

Reserve not met. (1,000,000) Buy it Now (9,000,000).

The market, not to mention the "spirit of giving", seems to be a little soft -

"Team Adventure is a non-profit Maine charitable education foundation (an approved U.S. 501(c)3, tax-deductible organization)

[JeffH]

"Team Adventure (see Seller information above "about-me" for links) is a non-profit Maine charitable education foundation (an approved U.S. 501(c)3, tax-deductible organization). "

Ummmmm, no offense to Cam Lewis, but I think I could find a much better cheritable use for my $9 million than giving it to a guy so he can sail his boat around the world. Perhaps I'm being a bit too cynical....

Jeff

[rbgarr]

I saw this boat on a vertical lift drydock in savannah. It took up the whole thing. I guess the only other way to get it out of the water would be a crane :confused: :confused:

Meanwhile...

it looks like the 501 (c)3 charitable organization has other objectives. Here are some items it has bid on on ebay:

REDINGTON AS 3/4 GOLD FLY FISHING REEL

Charter Club "Vail" Down Comforter Full/Queen NIP

K2 Clicker BLT bindings w/ leash stomp pad New in Box

K2 Clicker Sherpa Boots & Bindings Mens 12

K2 Clicker Sherpa Boots & Bindings Wmn's 7.5

LIKE NEW K2 FREEDOM (CLICKER) SNOWBOARD BOOTS M-12

K2 CLICKER SNOWBOARDING/SKIING BOOTS SIZE 8.5

[ahp]

That thing is just plane scarry. Cats have two stabile attitudes, mast up, and mast down, and maybe top 1/3 mast in the water if the mast is boyant. What happens to something like that if it gets into one of the latter attitudes?

[brian.cunningham]

quick post, I didn't see they were looking for sponsorship :rolleyes:

Maybe I should delete the thread just so they don't get FREE PRESS.

Still neat boat, which is why I posted it.

There's various ways to right a cat if they turn turtle. A local racer here had to do just that when his 32footer flipped.

A crane is the correct answer for launching. No big deal since racing multis don't weight much. The crane operator launching Ted Warren's boat "barely felt the load".

[ahp]

I know how to right a 16 ft Hobie. Class race rules demand that crew have a total weight of 265 lbs. They weigh the crew before the race. (I am depending memory here.). Total weight of Hobie 16, without crew, is about 325 lbs. So to right it you need to have aboat 2/3 of boat weight hanging out on righting lines. You need every pound. I can speak from experiance.

Numerous as the crew of that monster is, I don't think they add up to 2/3 of the boat weight. Call a salvage company?

[brian.cunningham]

The big races all have chase boats. Once a cat that size goes over it's pretty stable, so waiting for a chase boat isn't too bad. You right them by rigging a bridle.

You can also rig them with a mast float, some are fixed, kinda ugly IMHO, or inflatable, which also cuts down on wind drag.

Water ballast has also been used.
http://www.kelsall.com/Stability.htm
http://www.kelsall.com/images/Stability%20tests.jpg

This one's kinda neat
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~fsinc/yachts/slade /page2.htm (http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~fsinc/yachts/slade/page2.htm)
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~fsinc/yachts/slade/cartoon.gif

Here's a righting system for a small cat
http://www.geocities.com/hobiegary/SRMystere.html
http://www.geocities.com/hobiegary/soloright.html
http://www.geocities.com/hobiegary/SoloBrochure.html
MOVIE of the system in action. http://www.geocities.com/hobiegary/srp18.html

[ 04-14-2004, 04:25 PM: Message edited by: brian.cunningham ]

[ahp]

I am not impressed. First, I notice that water in the little video is very flat, not even whitecaps.

Now let us imagine a 30+ ft catamaran 500 miles off shore. She gets hit by a gust and goes over. The wind is 40 knots going on fifty and the waves as are 20 feet and growing. It is night.

Have any good prayers?

[brian.cunningham]

You wait until the storm is over to right the boat.

BTW in storm conditions you'd be deeply reefed, or completely reefed with a drogue out to help keep the boat upright.

[Hwyl]

Back to the original post, I see the auction ended with no bids (I was thinking of bidding $1).

As far as the capsize thing goes, that's a 25 year old discussion. There are plenty of these big cats hurtling around the world now, without capsizing, the most recent being Steve Fosset; what was it 58 days, they certainly did not have a powerboat following them (none could have kept up). They make a compelling argument :if they do flip, they will float.

Ellen Macarthur is (I hope) about to show everyone the way home with a 75 foot trimaran designed by Nigel Irens who is a close associate of our very own Ed Burnett

[brian.cunningham]

Nigel Irens is my role model.
A designer of everything from racing multihulls to gaff cutters.

He gave a lecture at my sailing club recently, talking about offshore racing multihulls.
http://www.nemasail.org/nigel.html