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Greg H
07-25-2004, 06:02 PM
A friend of mine just went to Newport to pick up hie new boat that he had shipped over from France. It was in company with Ranger on the way across.
Cool ship, I always wondered how they did that smile.gif http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid130/p7a15df7e616e6f8b74d75da702106516/f7b48e75.jpg

Jack Heinlen
07-25-2004, 08:56 PM
I'm still not sure. What I assume is Ranger ll appears to be on a cradle, while other boats are afloat.

mmd
07-26-2004, 12:52 AM
Check out the animation from Dockwise Transport:

http://www.yacht-transport.com/

It is also pretty cool to see the really big lifts accomplished by the newest generation of float-on/float off ships:

http://www.oilpubs.com/_ni/marlin01.jpg

http://www.dockwise.com/projects/images/oilgas/petrobras.jpg

http://www.dockwise.com/projects/images/oilgas/asgard.jpg

Lucky Luke
07-26-2004, 02:39 AM
:eek: Do you have to do the stability calculation for #2 and 3 Michael? :D

Chris.
07-26-2004, 02:53 AM
What Luke said - i am equally gobsmacked!

Jack - no cradle. I think that because Ranger has WAY more draft than the other boats in the hold she won't float till they flood the tanks a bit more.

Stiletto
07-26-2004, 05:10 PM
I read an article about the boat transport ships that said they float the boats on and weld a cradle arrangement around them for the voyage.

Jack Heinlen
07-26-2004, 05:22 PM
Okay, I think I'm catching on, correct me if I'm wrong. They flood the transport ships tanks, move the boats in, use preconstructed weldments/cradles to support them, then refloat. I, stupidly, assumed the boats came across afloat. Silly. Funny how an image can twist an understanding and stick in the mind.

I can understand it for large ships, but why boats? Wouldn't a crane work as well?

ahp
07-27-2004, 07:41 PM
Shamrock V sailed across the pond , and back, for her 1930 America's Cup challange, through a hurrican too. Why can't Ranger?

rbgarr
07-27-2004, 10:19 PM
One reason is that the terms of the America's Cup competition at the time required that any challenger sail to the US on her own bottom.

Ranger could do it (Endeavour has done it recently) but for some reason of their own the owners chose not to.

John B
07-28-2004, 12:52 AM
I watched the tv coverage of this or a similar boat at the last Am cup. It was news when it arrived.Strangely enough Shamrock was the J class that arrived on/in it and left again ( IIRC)with it a few months later.
Shamrock was really disappointing when she was here because she never seemed to go out.

Greg H
07-28-2004, 06:23 AM
The story I heard was that Ranger had been cruising the Med. and needed to be in Newport for an event of some kind at a specific date. The man that took the pictures had picked up his new boat in Sweden and sailed her to France for the crossing in the dock ship. It was a time issue.
Nice Life :D

mmd
07-28-2004, 07:10 AM
It is often not only faster, but cheaper to have a yacht ferried across the pond. The price of a paid crew large enough and capable enough to sail a vessel like Ranger across the Atlantic, plus provisions, insurance, etc. can be quite steep.

Lucky Luke
07-29-2004, 12:13 AM
....and even cheaper than what the expenses for crew would be, Michael: Joe Vittoria, about his new 70 M. "Mirabella V" said it was two times cheaper to replace the twin V12 MTUs than his mainsail! :rolleyes:
Even for motoryachts, and although they may be transatlantic range, the added running hours (between 3 and 500 per passage) represent such a loss of value for the whole ship than barge transport more than covers the price. The crew? Some usually just stay aboard, some have a short holiday...they are still paid! good! ;)

Dan McCosh
07-29-2004, 05:04 PM
Sailing these boats across the ocean also meant installing a special, cut-down rig, as the racing rig was too large to be safe.

Leon Steyns
07-29-2004, 05:57 PM
... next thing you know, they start airlifting these 'babies'... :D :D :D

Greets, Leon Steyns.

[ 07-29-2004, 06:58 PM: Message edited by: Leon Steyns ]