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Garrett Lowell
12-09-2004, 09:16 AM
...or light a candle or whatever it is that you do, for these poor souls. I am hoping for the best.

Coast Guard Rescue Helicopter Crashes in Bering Sea
Six Crew Members of Capsized Freighter That Broke Apart Are Missing

By Matt Volz
Associated Press
Thursday, December 9, 2004; 3:34 AM

ANCHORAGE, Alaska -- A Coast Guard rescue helicopter ferrying crew members from a powerless bulk freighter that was drifting toward shore crashed into the Bering Sea, and six of the aircraft's 10 passengers were still missing in the rough and frigid waters.

The fuel-laden ship later ran aground in southwestern Alaska and broke in two, and the Coast Guard was responding to a possible spill near a sensitive wildlife habitat. The other four helicopter passengers -- three Coast Guard personnel and one crew member -- were picked up by another helicopter participating in the rescue, the Coast Guard said. They were taken to Dutch Harbor on the island for medical treatment. There was no immediate word of their condition.

The search continued late Wednesday for the six freighter crew members still in the Bering Sea, where the water temperature was about 43 degrees and the waves were as high as 20 feet.

"The survival time is right around three hours in those conditions," said Rear Adm. James Olson, commander of the Coast Guard in Alaska, about four hours after the crash. "We'll search as long as we can be effective throughout the night."

Olson said he did not know whether the crew members were wearing survival gear. The cause of the crash was not immediately known.

Two people had remained onboard as the doomed helicopter flew away: a Coast Guard rescue swimmer and the master of the vessel. They were later rescued by the second helicopter before the ship ran aground.

The ship is owned by Singapore-based IMC Group and is registered under a Malaysian flag. Its crew was Filipino and Indian, the Coast Guard said.

An hour after the helicopter crash, the Selendang Ayu, a 738-foot-long freighter loaded with grain and 440,000 gallons of its own fuel, broke in two about four-fifths of a mile off Unalaska Island in the Aleutian chain, the Coast Guard said.

Olson said the Coast Guard is responding to a possible fuel spill. Unalaska Island, 800 air miles southwest of Anchorage, is home to sensitive wildlife habitat and fisheries.

The carrier's 440,000 gallons of heavy bunker oil had been transferred to inboard tanks and the fuel heaters were turned off to thicken the fuel, so in the event of a spill it would not disperse, Petty Officer Thomas McKenzie said.

The amount of spillage, if any, was not known Wednesday night, Olson said. The Coast Guard was transporting oil containment boom to the island's Dutch Harbor.

The Coast Guard and tug boats had tried since Tuesday to halt the drifting freighter, but 25-foot swells and 30-knot winds broke tow lines on each attempt.

A tug boat attached a line to the freighter on Tuesday evening, securing it for 12 hours until the line broke and the vessel resumed its path to shore.

The crew of the Selendang Ayu dropped anchor when it reached shallow water, but it was lost in the rough seas after just a half hour.

The crew later dropped its other anchor, which for a while held the freighter four-fifths of a mile from shore, Olson said.

Sometime around 6 p.m. Wednesday, the captain of the freighter requested the remaining crew member be evacuated from the vessel, as the anchor had begun to give way and the freighter had started to flood.

Eight were on board, after 18 had been previously evacuated.

The helicopter crashed into the sea soon after picking up the crew members, leaving behind the ship's captain and a Coast Guard rescue swimmer. About an hour later, at 7:14 p.m., the freighter broke in half.

The freighter's main engine broke down for unknown reasons on Tuesday. The freighter was carrying grain on a trans-Pacific voyage reportedly for Japan.

The Selendang Ayu is a single-deck bulk carrier built in China in 1998. It is owned by IMC Transworld, a subsidiary of Singapore-based IMC Group.

Company representatives are in Dutch Harbor and have met with Coast Guard officials, Olson said.

Olson said all Coast Guard personnel had been accounted for.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A5 1038-2004Dec9.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A51038-2004Dec9.html)

NormMessinger
12-09-2004, 09:43 AM
I just scanned the article so may have missed it if it said but NPR reported a while ago that all of the missing from the helicopter crash were crew men from the ship. The helicopter crew and one mariner was rescued.

I'm a bit shagrined with myself for being relieved that the helicopter crew is safe but somehow it hurts more when a rescuer dies trying to save another.

SteveFaehnle
12-09-2004, 09:59 AM
I was stationed at Naval Station Adak in the mid 1070's. That part of the world is a rough, unforgiving place.

ChuckG
12-09-2004, 10:47 AM
Amen.

I'm an ex-Coastie, from back in the 70's, and I served in Alaska too. We used to tell each other, "You gotta go out, but you don't have to come back," meaning the safe return wasn't guaranteed. I, too, pray the rescuers get home safe, whatever the peril, from mountain, sea, fire, or war.

For all who go to sea:
Guard them, we beseech thee, from the dangers of the sea, and conduct them in safety to the havens where they would be ...

Bruce Hooke
12-09-2004, 03:16 PM
I heard on the radio an hour or so back that at this point they figure that they are looking for bodies. :( :( :(

May their souls rest in peace, and prayers for those they have left behind.

It sounds like the weather has eased up, which should make things easier for the rescuers and the salvage teams.

Alan D. Hyde
12-09-2004, 03:35 PM
Something a few old Navy hands I used to know as a boy would hum to themselves when at sea in bad weather:

The Navy Hymn

Eternal Father, strong to save,
Whose arm hath bound the restless wave,
Who bidd'st the mighty ocean deep
Its own appointed limits keep;
Oh, hear us when we cry to Thee,
For those in peril on the sea!

O Christ Whose voice the waters heard
And hushed their raging at Thy word,
Who walked'st on the foaming deep,
And calm amidst the storm didst sleep;
Oh, hear us when we cry to Thee,
For those in peril on the sea!

O Holy Spirit Who didst brood
Upon the waters dark and rude,
And bid their angry tumult cease,
And give, for wild confusion, peace;
Oh, hear us when we cry to Thee,
For those in peril on the sea!

O Trinity of love and power!
Our brethren shield in danger's hour;
From rock and tempest, fire and foe,
Protect them wheresoe'er they go;
Thus evermore shall rise to Thee
Glad hymns of praise from land and sea.

***

Alan

bamamick
12-09-2004, 04:58 PM
Amen. May God bless and keep them.

Mickey Lake

gary porter
12-09-2004, 06:14 PM
A prayer for the crew and now I think probably best one for their families.
As of 2:30 none of the six crew have been found and in those waters, well one can always hope but its not good. The ship is leaking fuel which is #6 not good either.
Gary

J. Dillon
12-09-2004, 10:32 PM
A prayer for all and for all who serve our country.

BTW I wish the US Navy would adopt the Navy hymn as it's official song if it even is "official" instead of "Anchor's Aweigh"

JD

JimD
12-10-2004, 02:56 PM
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Andrew Craig-Bennett
12-10-2004, 03:30 PM
An RN helicopter with a crew of four crashed in the Channel about 20 miles south of the Lizard last night, returning from an unsucessful search for a crew member lost overboard from a ship in the Channel. Four bodies have been recovered today.

NormMessinger
12-10-2004, 07:39 PM
And it seems that they were responding to a false alarm. Doubly sad.

BrianW
12-11-2004, 07:34 PM
Sorry to hear about the RN helo crew. :(

Of course the dead freighter crew members is a sad deal too. :(

On a bright note, I know the Flight Mech from the crash as he was stationed here in Sitka before tranferring to Kodiak. It proves that all the underwater egress training, dry suits, and survival gear do work. This was the first HH-60J the USCG has lost. There was one that had a rotor blade problem and did a hard landing on a beach, but it was recovered.

I am very curious about what happened. I'm out of town, so I'm not getting any inside info from my CG friends (I just retired last week, from the same job as the crew above.) I suspect pilot error, but only due to the outstanding record the airframe maintains. But, that's just a guess.

sbsbw
12-11-2004, 08:20 PM
This is really depressing,

photos (http://www.adn.com/photos/selendang/)

Anchorage Daily News story (http://www.adn.com/front/story/5898374p-5808832c.html)

I've considered goin into the CG, this gives me some doubts, espically that pictrue of the chopper on the beech, but it would still be better then getting my but blown off in iraq.

SBSBW

Leon m
12-11-2004, 10:56 PM
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Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )
12-12-2004, 07:51 AM
:( Sad :(

sbsbw, I too would consider the coasties over other branches.

My High-school Algebra teacher was a former Coastie. He joined the guard prior to being drafted. His reasoning, since he was a pacifist was the coast guards primary objective was to SAVE life's as opposed the objective of the other branches of service.

[ 12-12-2004, 08:53 AM: Message edited by: Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson ) ]

Ian McColgin
12-12-2004, 07:55 AM
Quick note to sbsbw: Do go into the Coast Guard. One of the few regrets in my life is that I failed that physical. The Coast Guard is always the tag end of funding and pie cards in the Navy and USDT always find a way to task them with the dirty boring jobs, but they are the force who save the lives.

WindHawk
12-12-2004, 08:30 AM
:( May these families find peace.

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My son graduates from high-school this coming spring, and although he's proven himself a good sailor, I'm not sure he's ready for college yet. We've discussed the CG, and yes, I would be be afraid for him while in service, but I'm more afraid for him while singlehanding on the small inland lake near here (kind of a parent thing). With the excellant training, and the good leadership available in the CG, I think it's a proper choice, despite the danger.

If you're determined to be on the water, and especially while sailing, fear should only be one factor in the equation.

And boy, aren't I brave sitting here at my computer...

ChuckG
12-12-2004, 10:46 AM
Ayuh, if you are going to join a service, join the Coast Guard. But standby for the bs that attends an organization trying to do a huge job with too little funding.

But they do a job. Here's a story a prospective Coastie should read:
Grounding of CG44392 (http://home.online.no/~lawford/xrl/the-grounding-of-44392.htm)
All in a day's work.

Semper Paratus

I should add two things:
CG44392 was a 44' motor surf lifeboat, stationed just north of Juneau in the early 70's. When '392 was lifted out of the water by a huge crane at the loading/shipping dock, her bottom (a double bottom of 5/8th's corten steel) looked like a crumpled cellophane bag.
Second, the Officer in Charge was commended for his actions that night, and exonerated of any culpability. The fact that a 44 couldn't hold against the weather on one engine (twin GMC 3-71's I think) was the subject of some consternation.

[ 12-12-2004, 02:39 PM: Message edited by: ChuckG ]

sbsbw
12-12-2004, 07:32 PM
Wow, intense,

The costie saying " you have to go out, but you don't have to come back" came from a life saving station on or around cape cod, it was recored in the stations lob book.

I read that somewere i'll try to find it

the bit about the event on the quahhog river is also pretty intense.

now that i think about that quote i think that i saw it the book "coming back alive" by spike walker. also a pretty amazing story about costies.

SBSBW

BrianW
12-12-2004, 09:18 PM
sbsbw,

"You have to go out, but you don't have to come back." is no longer the standard motto of Coast Guard SAR. Sorry, it was a cool saying, and the pride is still there. But now days every mission is prebriefed to a fault, and if the odds of losing a crew is too great, the rescue chopper/boat stays home.

If you don't believe me, I suggest you call the CO of any CG Air Station and ask him what policy he has set for his Ops officer and pilots.

All that said, I enjoyed my time in the CG turning wrenches and performing as a flight mech (hoist operator) on HH-3F's and HH-60's. I sure as hell didn't do it because I was a pacifist!!! I did my time in the Army, and it was good too. I did it for quality of life issues. There is no doubt that duty in the USCG is better for families and members compared to any other Service. If you feel the need to shoot machine guns, the come on in as the CG has a unit which specializes in shooting 'go fast' drug boats. There's also lots of talk, and some actual work, about putting machine guns on most every CG helo.

Good luck...

sbsbw
12-13-2004, 11:37 AM
Really my interest is not in machine guns.
Really its having my country pay me to learn how to fly helos.