where should it go? (PIC)

[maa. melee]

http://www.botentekoop.nl/webimages/8/1/0/205018.jpg
Trying to avoid mounting any new bracketry but where/how should I stow the anchor while underway? The fore deck over the cabin of this boat is slanted and is a slip-and-slide when wet. Plus getting there over the cabin door while carrying an anchor and dodging the hatch is a huge pain. So I ask you this...where can I stow the anchor, chain, and rope while underway? I want to avoid damaging any surfaces and there's alot of windows to this boat. I was thinking of creating some sort of harness on the rail but I'd hate to scratch it up. Then I thought maybe I'd run the rope back to the cockpit but there's the problem of hopping down from the deck. I'd like to keep the anchor secure on deck for easy access while I pop thru the hatch. Do I need to anchor from astern? Can I anchor at all?

(Editted to add) I know technically this boat topic should be listed in a fiberglass boat forum but I find that woodenboat forumites have alittle more skill to solve these types of problems and make it look just right. ;)

[ 06-04-2005, 09:20 PM: Message edited by: maa. melee ]

[ssor]

What manner of anchor? Add a short bowsprit? Go really tacky and just lay the anchor on an old tire?. Seriously I think you will need a cushion for the anchor while it is on deck. Some of these smaller runabouts don't expect you to stop before you get home.

[Karl A. Hilbert]

I've seen SS straps that hang from the pulpit rail and accomodate a Danforth. But that is brackety :confused: Maybe with a cover/bag it won't look too bad.

[ 06-04-2005, 09:41 PM: Message edited by: Karl A. Hilbert ]

[Frank Wentzel]

I think your basic problem is that boat was never designed to do anything but travel between docks. The only design criteria were interior volume and cockpit and all other parameters were ignored. It will do what it was designed to do, probably quite well, but it will never be a cruiser.

/// Frank ///

[maa. melee]

frank u hit the nail right on the head. i know im trying to make the boat do what it wasnt really designed to do but i cant go to sea without an anchor. ssor, its a 8# danforth although i might switch it to a small bruce. i also have a solid 403 stainless steel grapling anchor i made last year. itd be wonderful to show it off on deck. i believe the rail harness would be most capable. maybe karl can give us some more info on the SS bracket. I wouldnt mind a hanging or clamping bracket...just so long as i dont hafta start drilling and tapping...makes me queezy to punch holes in this boat.

[Dave Fleming]

But But But, that there is a FEEBERGLAZ "boat"!

What is it doin' in the WoodenBoat Forums?

I think I am going to be sick................. :eek:

[maa. melee]

gasp!!! :eek: sorry david...it was a lingering problem...hope i didnt offend

[ 06-04-2005, 10:51 PM: Message edited by: maa. melee ]

[BrianW]

A lot of folks around here use a plastic tote secured to the rail. They store the line and the anchor in the tote.

Not pretty, but it works. Probably wise to drill some drain holes...

[Scott Rosen]

It would be easier to buy a new boat than to rig a safe anchor bracket on that boat. You could probably make do in good weather, calm seas, no wind. But when things started to blow, you'll have to get out on the deck, and boy, will you be sorry.

No offense, but opening this thread was like opening a new Playboy magazine and finding a 800 lbs, 83 year-old transvestite in the centerfold.

I'm with Dave. :eek:

[landlocked sailor]

Scott!! :D :D :D I think I'm gonna be sick! Rick

[Leon Steyns]

maa. melee,

The boat you picture is listed on a Dutch boats-for-sale site. Now that might just be an appropriate excuse, don't you think? :D
Here's my 2 cents: sell your boat and look for a nice wooden cruiser that fits your needs!

Greets, Leon Steyns.

[ssor]

I have seen (don't ask where ) brackets for stowing a danforth flat on deck. As I recall they involve about four pieces and support the pointy ends and the shank and I think the center pivot section. But you still have to attach them to the deck. A really strong bag lashed to the cleats would work or just lead the rode forward from the cockpit and recover the anchor into the cockpit. There are quite a few small powerboats like that around here and folks like to take them out and anchor and swim. I doubt that you will have 300 feet of 3/4 nylon rode to stow so a bag in the cockpit would take care of stowing both anchor and rode.

[Gary E]

I too have seen brackets (you can make them yourself)for stowing a danforth flat on deck, and if that boat was mine I would use them. I would provide a means to deploy the anchor while standing in the hatch, and that means storing the anchor rope below deck and not in a bag and for that size boat definatly not 3/4...3/8 maybe.

[ 06-05-2005, 09:59 AM: Message edited by: Gary E ]

[paladin]

just a thought.....
I could send you drawings for a folding or collapsible fisherman anchor, grapnel...but not a danforth....can fit vertically in a pvc pipe below decks somewhere to be deployed thru the hatch.....but it would just be a lunch hook...i dunno see any place on that boat to secure a real anchor.....

[maa. melee]

Thanks for the advice so far. It turns out the anchor hangs nicely on the rod connecting the flukes to the shank. All i needs to do is find myself some SS split rings to hold it there. Ill keep u posted.

[nutmeg2go]

What you do is fill it with water and use it as an anchor. What you need is a boat.

[Figment]

Don't even bother trying to stow on deck at all.
From the looks of things, it appears that if you're standing on the berth with your upper body sticking out the hatch, you can just about reach the foredeck cleat, right? That's about the only way I ever found to do foredeck work in a boat like that in any kind of foul weather. Don't hazard working on deck, it just isn't worth it.

Yes, the berth will get wet. Nothing you can do about it.

[maa. melee]

your mostly right, figment. true the berth does and has gotten wet. however, i can reach all the way to the nav lights comfortably while crouched in the open hatch. reaching beyond is no problem. i think i figured this one out. with all that SS and molded plastic, i almost forgot about some beatiful cordage. so i got myself an old bungee from the garage and made a couple temporary hitches on the rail making a small loop to swing over the hanging danforth. the loop stretchs tight over the bottom of the anchor and holds tight under the wings. works wonders. i tugged and jostled, shook and lifted and the anchor wasnt going anywhere. ill replace this temporary bungee with a heavier one, cut off the hooks and whip the ends of the hitch so it looks mighty pretty. ill get a pic up too. thanks for the help.

[Roger Cumming]

Would it be so difficult to keep the anchor in the cockpit with the rode led through an eye on the deck up forward. You would drop the anchor from the cockpit, belay the cable on a cleat in the cockpit, and when getting the anchor motor up, grab the cable with the boat hook, haul the anchor up and stow it in the cockpit. It might be hard to get the anchor if it was set very deep, but if the anchor was buoyed all you would have to do is motor up, grab the buoy with the boat hook and haul it in. It might even be safer if the boat was bouncing to be doing all this from the cockpit.