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Donn
12-07-2004, 09:12 AM
I say yes.

Pet Project Seeks Presidential Yacht

One of many provisions in the federal spending bill allots $2 million to buy back the Sequoia, used by chief executives from Hoover to Ford.


By Richard Simon, LA Times Staff Writer

WASHINGTON — It was auctioned off for $286,000 in 1977 by President Carter in his effort to eliminate symbols of the "imperial presidency." Now Congress has set aside $2 million to help buy back the Sequoia, the onetime presidential yacht, as a museum piece.

The provision is one of many not directly related to government operations that were slipped into a massive spending bill that will fund 13 Cabinet departments and a host of independent agencies for the fiscal year that began Oct. 1.



The way was cleared for the $388-billion bill to go to President Bush after the House on Monday stripped from the measure a controversial provision that would have given some members of Congress and their staffs access to individuals' income tax returns.

The House and Senate approved the bill last month. But the tax provision prompted Congress to delay sending it to Bush until the House acted to strike the single sentence, as the Senate had done.

The bill's Republican drafters said they never intended to undermine the privacy of tax returns, but rather aimed to authorize members of Congress and their staffs to inspect Internal Revenue Service facilities as part of their oversight.

Lawmakers rejected requests by taxpayer watchdog groups to scrap the spending bill altogether. The groups have complained that the 3,646-page bill is filled with lawmakers' pet projects, despite claims by its authors that it is tight in an era of record federal budget deficits.

One target of the watchdogs' criticism is the provision providing for purchase of the 104-foot, 79-year-old Sequoia. The yacht, which one historian described as a floating White House, was used by every president from Herbert Hoover to Gerald R. Ford.

The current owner, who rents out the boat for $10,000 a night, said Monday that the $2 million wasn't enough to buy the boat, but said that it could be used as seed money to raise private funds.

Owner Gary Silversmith, a Washington lawyer who bought the yacht for about $2 million in 1999 and has spent at least as much on improvements to the wooden vessel, didn't say how much he would accept. But he said he already had been offered more than $7 million for it by someone who wanted to move the yacht to Russia.

"I'll sell it at a discount to the government," he said, "but I still have to pay my own debts."

Democrats have ridiculed the provision, calling it frivolous in a time of record federal budget deficits.

But Silversmith said, "Saving the Sequoia and getting it in the hands of a responsible American nonprofit entity is not an example of pork."

Historians also cheered the funding.

"It's one of the great treasures of the United States," said Kim Nielsen, director of the U.S. Navy Museum in Washington. "It's a fantastic piece of Americana that deserves the highest level of preservation."

Silversmith said that he had not sought to include the provision in the spending bill. And a spokesman for the White House budget office said the administration did not request the funding.

A congressional Republican leadership aide said the provision was included because of concern that the yacht might be sold, perhaps for use as a riverboat casino.

Donn
12-07-2004, 09:25 AM
http://www.sequoiayacht.com/spgm/gal/Painting_of_Sequoia/boat.jpg

Garrett Lowell
12-07-2004, 09:42 AM
I think it's a bargain. Is that a Trumpy boat?

mmd
12-07-2004, 10:05 AM
I certainly would applaud the preservation of a historically significant yacht such as Sequoia, but am worried about how it would be preserved. The sad state of the historic vessels in Federal hands such as the Wapana and C.A. Thayer are cases in point. IMHO, vessels must be used to be maintained properly. Maybe Sequoia could be assigned to the midshipmen of the US NAval Academy for specified ceremonial duties to keep her fit and active.

Bob Adams
12-07-2004, 11:06 AM
Originally posted by Garrett Lowell:
I think it's a bargain. Is that a Trumpy boat?Yep Trumpy-Mathis. I'd love to see her back in government service. The privite sector almost let her die once!

bamamick
12-07-2004, 11:06 AM
A sister ship to the 'Sequoia' is the 'Frances Fayard' and is or was based out of Gulfport, Mississippi. That is a beautiful boat. If the 'Sequoia' is close to the same boat then she is certainly worth preserving.

Mickey Lake

Dave Fleming
12-07-2004, 11:10 AM
MMD, the C A Thayer is undergoing a huge restoration/repair project as we speak. How it turns out remains to be seen.

The WAPAMA as I show in my Imagestation album of the same name will I venture, never touch water again. As each year of almost no care goes by the chance of a viable restoration as an exhibit also deminishes. They are both part of the National Park facility in San Franciso.

I personally wouldn't put a row boat in the hands of some of these gov't agencies!

The San Diego Maritime Museum on the other hand, to the best of my knowledge, is not a gov't agency. It is private, non-profit with many ties to the City, Port Authority, local schools and interested groups. They have NO true shipwrights, there are two individuals on staff who fill the role,one is a capable worker and has been with the museum for over 20 years, the other a relative newcomer. The musuem depends on volunteers for much of the upkeep and yet the vessels are in general much better preserved and cared for than the National Park Service does with the ****San Francisco National Maritime Museum****.

[ 12-07-2004, 06:20 PM: Message edited by: Dave Fleming ]

mmd
12-07-2004, 05:05 PM
I stand corrected, Dave. I thought that the ships I named were those under the wing of the NPS. Middle age and dark rum has apparently wasted my memory.

I knew that the Thayer was undergoing restoration, and I wish her well. Vessels like the Sequoia should be kept maintained so that they do not need restoration.

Dave Fleming
12-07-2004, 05:18 PM
Oooopppss!

I think my wording confused you MMD. The CA Thayer and the Wapama are in the NPS system.

They are up in San Franciso. I was referring to the San Diego Martime Museum in regard to an organization that is trying to keep up its vessels.

Yer pardon, please?

mmd
12-07-2004, 05:27 PM
Now I'm really funcused - I drink I needle a little think.

Jim Pooler
12-07-2004, 11:56 PM
Here are some interesting links on the Sequoia.

Sequoia (http://www.deanwood.com/sequoia.html)
Restoring a masterpiece (http://www.baysoundings.com/spring03/trumpy.html)
Preserving the Sequoia (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1359854)

Hwyl
12-08-2004, 01:33 AM
Would Bush really want it? His father has a cigarette and was somehow associated with Don Aronnow, the builder. It's certainly a production when he goes "fishing" up here. Fishing means dragging lures around at 40kts, while being chased by the secret service in a Donzi / Cigarette

I'm desperate not to turn this into a political post, but it seems to me that the "Presidential Yacht" should reflect the interests of the president

Meerkat
12-08-2004, 02:12 AM
These days, the presidental "yacht" goes to windward at about 550 kts and there are 2 of them! ;)

Personally, I would vastly prefer the "Sequoia"! smile.gif