View Full Version : Iraq's Surrender?

03-12-2003, 10:58 AM
I heard yesterday from a confidential source that just over the northern border of Iraq that a British Unit was doing some live fire training when out of no where came some Iraq solders with their hands up proclaiming "we surrender." And then at that point the British soldiers told them to go back that it wasn't time yet.

Can anyone confirm this story??

03-12-2003, 11:01 AM
it was in the news from two days ago,,,

03-12-2003, 11:03 AM
To get shot. These are conscripts, not the Republican Guard.

Andrew Craig-Bennett
03-12-2003, 11:10 AM
It sounds right. It's exactly what a British Army unit would say, in those circumstances.

James R
03-12-2003, 11:15 AM
Here's just one of the news stories (http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/news/page.cfm?objectid=12715943&method=full&siteid=106694) about the attempted surrender. It was also briefly discussed in this forum (http://media5.hypernet.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=5;t=008442) .

Andrew Craig-Bennett
03-12-2003, 11:22 AM
Thanks for the link. Not the Marines, the Paras. Same thing, so far as Iraqi conscripts are concerned (nb - do NOT start a discussion on which unit is "harder"!)

03-12-2003, 11:26 AM
Thanks guys. I was hopping it was true becuase it's too funny to be labled a hoax.


Wild Wassa
03-12-2003, 11:33 AM
This is what I saw (on BBC News), if they were the same deserters ?

They surrendered to the Kurds. They were supposedly interviewed with their faces in darkness. Saying, “that they, had inside knowledge that the Iraqi army would surrender on mass.” What else would a deserter say ? ... except to cover their arses and ingratiate themselves with their captors.

Maybe they deserted twice, they could have been the Iraqis most determined deserters, ... and probably should be decorated for this, they are strong enough to handle rejection.

The coverage of the Iraqis fortifying their positions, and showing resolve looks serious.

But then it's all media, it has to be interesting to sell to the world’s media.

[ 03-12-2003, 02:51 PM: Message edited by: Wild Wassa ]

Garrett Lowell
03-12-2003, 11:40 AM
We all know these "deserters" are Bush administration plants, a clever PR and propaganda scheme. Probably CIA guys with excellent cover! Probably set up when some of Bush's guys were in Iraq back in the '80s.

Wild Wassa
03-12-2003, 11:51 AM
It's like the line from a the WW2 movie, where a lone British soldier is walking along with 2000 Italian prisoners (in North Africa).

He runs into a British Officer who says, "where are you taking these prisoners."

"To the rear Sir, but Sir, I don't have any bullets in the gun".

The Officer says, "SSSShhh", not so loud, they might hear you. Keep up the good work soldier."

[ 03-12-2003, 11:54 AM: Message edited by: Wild Wassa ]

David N.
03-12-2003, 12:33 PM
In order to impress a sargent , E. Rommel , walked in to a camp of some 1500 men and told them they were surrounded and if they did not surrender that they would be destroyed , they did .
From his book the desert fox .

James R
03-12-2003, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by Wild Wassa:
They surrendered to the Kurds.It's unlikely that these were the same soldiers. The first group surrendered to the British in Kuwait near the southern border of Iraq. The Kurds are in northern Iraq.

Wild Wassa
03-12-2003, 02:54 PM
James R, I did say that they were determined and others did say that the British did reject them.

They probably stole a car as well.


03-12-2003, 03:02 PM
Some Nazis deserted too. Says nothing about the rest of the force.