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captain's gig
10-26-2004, 06:50 PM
Russia has joined U.S. in a dangerous challenge

By Gwynne Dyer

It didn't get much media play, but did you notice what the Russian chief of staff, Gen. Yuri Baluyevsky, said after the horrors at Middle School Number One in Beslan? He said that in future, Russia will be prepared to carry out preemptive strikes against terrorist bases anywhere in the world.

One man who would not have been surprised to hear it is Kofi Annan: "This logic represents a fundamental challenge to the principles on which world peace and stability have rested for the last 58 years.''

Most Americans were not alarmed when President George W. Bush wrote in the introduction to the National Security Strategy statement of 2002 that, "America will act against emerging threats before they are fully formed. We will not hesitate to act alone, if necessary. ...''

Vice-President Dick Cheney still gets cheers when he trots out the line about the United States not needing a "permission slip'' from the U.N. to attack countries it suspects of evil intentions towards America. The problem that is practically invisible from inside the United States is that other countries then don't need "permission slips'' to invade their neighbors, either. They can just announce that they have uncovered a grave threat to their security in some other country -- they don't actually have to prove it, any more than the United States did -- and then they are free to invade it. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

Russia, unlike the United States, is not strong enough militarily to invade countries halfway around the world from it, but all the countries of Central Asia and the Caucasus that used to be ruled by Moscow will certainly see themselves as potential targets. Eastern European countries won't be feeling too happy about it either. And of course, other big countries like China and India are quite likely to follow where the U.S. and Russia have blazed the trail.

Which is why Kofi Annan is looking so worn and worried these days. He has every right to be.

Cincinnati Post (http://www.cincypost.com/2004/09/10/dyer091004.html)

[ 10-26-2004, 07:54 PM: Message edited by: captain's gig ]

RayRay
10-26-2004, 06:53 PM
From above: Russia, unlike the United States, is not strong enough militarily to invade countries halfway around the world from it

:D

You're welcome world!

God bless President Reagan!!!

huisjen
10-26-2004, 07:16 PM
I'd like to report a terrorist camp in Spring, Texas...

Dan

Ron Williamson
10-27-2004, 05:18 AM
Heads up,Texans.
Vicente Fox has determined that yer a threat to world peace.
R

imported_Daniel
10-27-2004, 05:40 AM
A dangerous precedent indeed. I wonder if they actually thought this wouldnt happen?

RayRay
10-27-2004, 05:49 AM
I forgot who said it....probably someone unimportant: Which is why Kofi Annan is looking so worn and worried these days. He has every right to be.

Er, killing people doesn't bother Kofi.....since he's been top dog at the UN millions have died.

I think what's working on old Kofi is the Oil For Food Program fraud where he is also top dog.... :rolleyes:

Maybe we need to report the UN as a terrorist group? :eek: :eek:

ljb5
10-27-2004, 10:07 AM
What's next?

Isreal vs. Palestine

China vs. Taiwan

Pakistan vs. India

China vs. Tibet

South Korea vs. North Korea

It's like two kids on a tree limb, frantically trying to saw it off so the other falls first.

Simple concept: You can't fight your way out of a fight.

Jim H
10-27-2004, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by Ron Williamson:
Heads up,Texans.
Vicente Fox has determined that yer a threat to world peace.
RI'd give you 10:1 odds, Texans over the Mexican Army.

Andrew Craig-Bennett
10-27-2004, 10:48 AM
I don't suppose any Republican supporters remember this event, but in 1956 Britain, France and Israel invaded Egypt.

Why? Because Gamal Abdel Nasser had just seized the Suez Canal.

Why? Because John Foster Dulles had refused him the finance for the Aswan High Dam, because Nasser had accepted Russian aid, so he decided to get the money from canal dues.

What happened?

Eisenhower told us to stop, because we had no business invading third world nations, even when they seized our assets without compensation.

He had us by the ..... because of the sterling balances.

So we stopped.

Eisenhower and Dulles were Republicans.

Real ones.

Jim H
10-27-2004, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by captain's gig:
One man who would not have been surprised to hear it is Kofi Annan: "This logic represents a fundamental challenge to the principles on which world peace and stability have rested for the last 58 years.''
Cincinnati Post (http://www.cincypost.com/2004/09/10/dyer091004.html)World peace and stability? The last 58 years? Has Secretary Annan forgotten the Korean War, the Vietnam War, the wars in Ethiopia and Chad? The following list does not include such things as the ethnic cleansing in Eastern Europe or genocide in Africa.

1970 October Crisis (Quebec): FLQ murder of Pierre Laporte, kidnapping of James Cross
1970 Nahariya/Avivim School Bus Attack by Palestinian PLO terrorists
1972 Lod Airport Massacre by the Japanese Red Army terrorists
1972 Munich Olympic Massacre by Black September
1972 Bloody Friday nine are killed and many injured as Provisional Irish Republican Army (IRA) set off 22 bombs.
1974 Guildford pub bombing by the IRA leaves 5 dead and 44 injured.
1974 Birmingham pub bombing by the IRA kills 19, 182 people are injured.
1974 Kiryat Shmona Massacre at an apartment building By the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine Palestinian terrorists
1974 Maalot Massacre at the Maalot High School in Northern Israel by Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine Palestinian terrorists
1974 UVF detonate 3 car bombs in Dublin and one in Monaghan
1975 Tel Aviv Savoy Hotel guest attacked by Palestinian PLO terrorists
1976 Hijacking of Air France Flight 139 (Tel-Aviv-Paris) and the following Operation Entebbe
1976 Orlando Letelier assassinated in Washington by Chilean government
1978-1995 The Unabomber kills three and injures 29 in a string of anti-technology bombings
1978 Palestinian Fatah terrorists on the Tel Aviv - Haifa highway kill 34 Israelis.
1979 Lord Mountbatten and three others are killed by IRA
1980 Archbishop Oscar Romero assassinated by Death squads in El Salvador
1980 Four US nuns killed by death squads in El Salvador
1980 Neo-Fascist bomb kills more than 80 people in Bologna railway station
1982 Two bombs in Hyde Park and Regent's Park, London by the IRA killl 8 members of the Household Cavalry and the Royal Green Jackets seven horses are also killed.
1983 US Embassy bombing kills 63 in Beirut, Lebanon.
1983 Marine Barracks Bombing in October kills 241 US Marines.
1983 Harrods bomb by the IRA. Six are killed (including three police officers) and 90 wounded during Christmas shopping at the West London department store.
1984 IRA bomb in the Grand Hotel Brighton 5 are killed in an attempt to kill members of the British cabinet.
1985 TWA Flight 847 hijacking; one US citizen killed.
1985 Achille Lauro cruise ship hijacking by Palestinian Liberation Front
1985 IRA mortar attack kills nine soldiers in Newry
1985 Air India flight 182 is blown up by a bomb put onboard the flight from Canada by Sikh nationalists. All 329 passengers are killed.
1985 EgyptAir Flight 648 hijacked by Abu Nidal group, flown to Malta, where Egyptian commandos storm plane; 60 are killed by gunfire and explosions.
1985 Palestinian terrorists kill twenty people inside Leonardo Da Vinci International Airport near Rome and Vienna International Airport in Vienna.
1986 New Year's Eve fire at the Dupont Plaza Hotel in San Juan, Puerto Rico, claimed 97 lives, mainly in the casino area. Fire set by 3 hotel workers, trying to make tourists stay away from Puerto Rico as a protest to their working wages.
1986 TWA Flight 840 bombed on approach to Athens airport; 4 Americans, including an infant, are killed.
1986 Berlin discotheque bombing On April 6, the La Belle discotheque, a known hangout for U.S. soldiers, was bombed, killing 3 and injuring 230 people, for which Libya is held responsible.
1987 Enniskillen massacre. Remembrance Day parade in Enniskillen, County Fermanagh is bombed by the IRA and 11 are killed and 63 injured
1988 Pan Am Flight 103 bombing (Lockerbie)
1989 Ten Royal Marines bandsmen are killed and 22 injured when base in Deal, Kent is bombed by the IRA.
1989 UTA Flight UT-772
1990 A series of car bombings directed by the IRA in Northern Ireland leave 7 people dead and 37 wounded.
1991 Two IRA members are killed by their own bomb in St Albans.
1992 Israeli Embassy destroyed by car bomb in Buenos Aires, Argentina; 29 die.
1992 Eight Protestant builders killed by an IRA bomb on their way to work at an Army base near Omagh.
1993 World Trade Center bombing
1993 13 bombs, mainly packed in cars, go off in Mumbai, India, killing 257 people and wounding more than 1,100.
1993 IRA bomb in Warrington kills two children.
1993 IRA detonate a huge truck bomb in the City of London at Bishopsgate, killing two and causing approximately 350m of damage.
1993 A bomb at a fish and chip shop on the Protestant Shankill Road, Belfast kills 10 people, including two children.
1994 Bombing of Jewish Center in Buenos Aires, Argentina kills 86 and wounds 300.
1994 Baruch Goldstein machine gun attack on mosque in Hebron.
1994 Air France Flight 8969 is hijacked by GIA members who planned to crash the plane on Paris but didn't succeed.
1994 A small bomb explodes on board Philippine Airlines flight 434, killing a Japanese businessman. Authorities found out that Ramzi Yousef planted the bomb to test it for his planned terrorist attack.
1995 Operation Bojinka is discovered on a laptop computer in a Manila, Philippines apartment by authorities after an apartment fire occurred in the apartment.
1995 1995 Tokyo Sarin Attack
1995 Oklahoma City bombing
1995 Bombing of military compound in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
1996 A series of four suicide bombings in Israel leave 67 dead and 161 wounded within 10 days.
1996 Centennial Olympic Park bombing, killing one and wounding 111.
1996 IRA break their cease-fire and kill two in a bomb at the Canary Wharf towers in London.
1996 Manchester bombing by IRA
1996 Khobar Towers bombing
1998 U.S. embassy bombings
1998 Omagh bombing by the so-called "Real IRA" kills 29.
1999 Gunmen opened fire on Shi'a Muslims worshipping in an Islamabad mosque killing 16 people injuring 25.
1999 David Copeland nail bomb attacks against ethnic minorities and gays in London.
1999 Ahmed Ressam is arrested on the US-Canada border in Port Angeles, Washington; he confessed to planning to bomb the Los Angeles International Airport as part of the 2000 celebration terrorist attacks plot
1999 Jordanian authorities foil a plot to bomb US and Israeli tourists in Jordan and pick up 28 suspects as part of the 2000 celebration terrorist attacks plot
1999 Indian Airlines Flight 814, which just took off from Kathmandu, Nepal for Indira Gandhi International Airport in Delhi, India is hijacked, one passenger is killed and some hostages are released. After negotiations between the Taliban and the Indian government, the last of the remaining hostages on board Flight 814 are released
2000 The last part of the 2000 celebration terrorist attacks plot fails, as the boat meant to bomb the USS The Sullivans sinks
2000 Beginning of a campaign of attacks on civilians in Israel - see Terrorism against Israel in 2000.
2000 USS Cole bombing
2000 German police foil plot to attack a cathedral in Strasbourg, France
2001 September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attack ("9/11") kills thousands in New York, and hundreds in Washington, D.C. and Pennsylvania.
2001 Paris embassy terrorist attack plot foiled
2001 December 13, 2001 Terrorist attack on Indian Parliament.
2001 Palestinian attacks against Israeli civilians continue - see Terrorism against Israel in 2001.
2001 Richard Reid attempts to destroy American Airlines Flight 63, is subdued by passengers and flight attendants before he could detonate his shoe bomb
2002 Singapore embassies terrorist attack plot foiled
2002 June 14 terrorist attack outside US Consulate in Karachi
2002 Limburg tanker bombing in Yemen
2002 Murder of Daniel Pearl
2002 Bali car bombing of holidaymakers
2002 Zamboanga bombings in the Philippines
2002 Moscow theatre siege
2002 Most deadly year of Palestinian terror campaign against Israel, including the Passover Massacre in which 30 people are killed - see Terrorism against Israel in 2002.
2002 Kenyan hotel bombing

Noticeably missing are terrorist acts in Germany, Italy and the rest of Western Europe during the Cold War by groups like the Red Brigades and in South America by the likes of the Shining Path (Peru).