Congratulations to the Conservatives

[Meerkat]

You do count them among your own don't you? I'm talking about that contentious bunch that seems to have mistaken cheap shots, contemptuous rhetoric and drunken mutterings for civil discourse. I don't think many of us will have to think too hard to come up with the nicknames of the 4-5 people on this forum who post like this.

I gather these gentlemen (and I use the term only out of (undeserved) courtesy) must be counted among those additional people, who, while being civil, give support and credibility to the "coalition of the spoilers". Alas, gilding feces doesn't make it smell any better.

So, congratulations to you spoilers and apologists. More and more nice people just don't come into Misc. Non-Boat Related anymore or just don't bother to come to WBF at all. Keep up the good work, cut and paste to insult for all you're worth and slam your barbs meant only to wound. It's important that you continue your valiant effort to avoid making any meaningful contribution to the discussion and it's theme while spewing out more hateful denigration.

Continue the struggle and soon you'll be able to turn your attention to other forums where your staunch and caring brand of conservative advocacy will win you new friends and syncophants. By then, of course, you and your tactics will have killed this one.

[John Bell]

Troll alert!

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone...

[stan v]

I want, NO..I DEMAND the names of those who have so inflamed one as gentle and kind as yourself. I'll deal with the ruffians myself.

[Donn]

"Jane! You ignorant slut!"

[Meerkat]

Originally posted by John Bell:
Troll alert!

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone...One of the apologists chiming in now.

[Gresham CA]

Meerkat,
I and my wife are conservative politicaly speaking and have not called any names. Generalizations such as yours are what are hurting more than anything else. You and others throw more names than most.

[Meerkat]

Originally posted by stan v:
I want, NO..I DEMAND the names of those who have so inflamed one as gentle and kind as yourself. I'll deal with the ruffians myself.Well stan, they say that suicide is painless :D

[Meerkat]

Originally posted by Donn:
"Jane! You ignorant slut!"And one of the spoilers stinks up the place... next?

[John Bell]

Ok LeBlanc, I'm glad to know I'm one of the burrs in your saddle. :mad:

Perhaps you could quote some of my "hateful denigration" for us to enjoy?

[ 03-28-2003, 07:17 PM: Message edited by: John Bell ]

[On Vacation]

Meerkat, there has been NO ONE, YES NO ONE, that has puked and spouted trash as you have, during your attendance record, here, on the forum.
ANTIE-BUSH, ANTI-AMERICAN. Agenda driven, you have posted.

Capitalism you have opposed, because you are one of the lazy Americans looking for freebies. You find companionship here, since socialists exist here.

If you are upset, then you must be getting the real life message that bitching creates nothing but ulcers.. If you think for one minute, six or so conservatives have changed this forum, you are one dense creature. 6,500 plus members, and maybe six conservative active members, and you are crying foul?

[ 03-28-2003, 07:18 PM: Message edited by: Oyster ]

[Meerkat]

Originally posted by Gresham CA:
Meerkat,
I and my wife are conservative politicaly speaking and have not called any names. Generalizations such as yours are what are hurting more than anything else. You and others throw more names than most.I don't count myself innocent of having called a few names, but it has generally been in response to those who like to make up cute little semantically loaded nicknames for those they disagree with - "anti" comes to mind as being one of those.

I'm not making generalizations, I'm merely commenting on a specific group of spoilers that hide themselves behind the rubric of "conservative" and who tend to get a lot of reinforcement from what I would consider the true (or at least civil ;) ) conservatives on the forum.

[Meerkat]

Originally posted by Oyster:
Meerkat, there has been NO ONE, YES NO ONE, that has puked and spouted trash as you have, during your attendance record, here, on the forum.
ANTIE-BUSH, ANTI-AMERICAN. Agenda driven, you have posted.

Capitalism you have opposed, because you are one of the lazy Americans looking for freebies. You find companionship here, since socialists exist here.

If you are upset, then you must be getting the real life message that bitching creates nothing but ulcers.. If you think for one minute, six or so conservatives have changed this forum, you are one dense creature. 6,500 plus members, anad maybe six conservative active members.A prime example of a spoiler at work. No remarks about the topic, just a slash and burn personal attack.

You're not a conservative Oyster - you're a hatemonger masquerading as a conservative.

[Memphis Mike]

No, no troll alert at all. What Meerkat says is the truth. People are leaving because of the remarks of a few that are hellbent on instilling their one sided beliefs concerning this war on others.

Also, we read about your fucked up little war in the paper, we see it on TV, we here on the radio and we discuss it with our friends offline.

Is that it? You don't have any friends so you choose to spew your garbage in here? Well pretty soon, you're not going to have any friends in here either.

[Gresham CA]

Meerkat,
To include yourself in the "civil" group would, IMHO, be stretching the the word civil. You have at times made very good arguments to your oppinion but to say that you have been "civil" is incorrect.

edited to remove an extra -would. Ok, so I'm not a speach writer.

[ 03-28-2003, 07:24 PM: Message edited by: Gresham CA ]

[Meerkat]

Originally posted by John Bell:
Ok LeBlanc, I'm glad to know I'm one of the burrs in your saddle. :mad:

Perhaps you could quote some of my "hateful denigration" for us to enjoy?Bell, I don't think you're a spoiler, but I think you facilitate them by giving attention to their remarks while overlooking the hateful invective with which they're often delivered.

[stan v]

Come on Fearkitty! What do you want? Love? Attention? Reward? I've called you more than just 'anti', which you are by the way, so what? I get hammered as much. So much, I'm starting to like it. Am I sick? Do I need help? If I do, I won't come looking for it here. MM, knock off the bad language, I know you are above that.

[Cap'n R an R]

Meerkat.....at least you have confessed that you are anti-semantic!!!!

[On Vacation]

Spoiler you say? BOOHOO, I am so sorry to draw attention to your marathon crying foul. Get your butt off the computer, and get outside, and sweat. Huge amounts of money is waiting for a 40 hour work week. Many jobs carry with it perks. Take a valium or prozac. It takes about a month to work so keep the faith right here, amoung friends. Try a new approach at 24/7 whining. Call me if you need a friend. My degree is in phychology. Or if you feel threatened, call Chris Coose. He is full time, and I only work one day a week to buy fishbait. I wish you well, my friend.

[Meerkat]

Originally posted by Gresham CA:
[QB]Meerkat,
To include yourself in the "civil" group would, IMHO, be stretching the the word civil. You have at times made very good arguments to your oppinion but to say that you have been "civil" is incorrect.
QB]I don't claim innocence smile.gif - and I think putting me in the "uncivil" group would stretch the meaning of that term ;) ! I admit a weakness in responding to the drivel with drivel of my own at times and I intend to avoid doing so in the future.

[km gresham]

Can't we all just get along? :D

[Meerkat]

Originally posted by Cap'n R an R:
Meerkat.....at least you have confessed that you are anti-semantic!!!!ROTFL! I had to look twice at that one Cap'n! smile.gif

[On Vacation]

Originally posted by Meerkat:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Gresham CA:
[QB]Meerkat,
To include yourself in the "civil" group would, IMHO, be stretching the the word civil. You have at times made very good arguments to your oppinion but to say that you have been "civil" is incorrect.
QB]I don't claim innocence smile.gif - and I think putting me in the "uncivil" group would stretch the meaning of that term ;) ! I admit a weakness in responding to the drivel with drivel of my own at times and I intend to avoid doing so in the future.</font>[/QUOTE]This is the first step to recovery.

[Meerkat]

Oyster, I do not believe you have a degree in Psychology. As for my recovery, don't worry about it: as it concerns you, recovery is complete. I'm never going to respond to any of your crap again.

[ 03-28-2003, 07:39 PM: Message edited by: Meerkat ]

[John Bell]

Just starting this thread was uncivil, IMO...
Then when you say such kind things as:

Well stan, they say that suicide is painless
Suggest that Stan take his own life... nice.


you're a hatemonger masquerading as a conservative Not very nice... :(

Disagree with his ideas, OK? Name calling is just plain rude...

I'd suggest you pull the plug on this one and make a promise that from here on out you'll be civil, and challenge others to do the same. Lead by example, not bad example.

edited for typos...

[ 03-28-2003, 07:41 PM: Message edited by: John Bell ]

[km gresham]

John, I agree with you.

[Donn]

Originally posted by Meerkat:
Oyster, I do not believe you have a degree in Psychology. As for my recovery, don't worry about it: as it concerns you, recovery is complete. I'm never going to respond to any of your crap again.I've got $100 that says this isn't true...anybody want a piece?

[Meerkat]

John;

stan just seemed so eagar to be helpful! ;) (and I bet you can discern the difference between humor and rancor can't you?)

As for Oyster - facts is facts. I'm by no means the first person to take issue with his posts and lack of forum ettiquete. I do seem to be his favorite whipping boy though.

[km gresham]

Donn,

LOL

[On Vacation]

Originally posted by Meerkat:
Oyster, I do not believe you have a degree in Psychology. As for my recovery, don't worry about it: as it concerns you, recovery is complete. I'm never going to respond to any of your crap again.Darn folks, that was quite a cure in one session.
Genius, as my teachers use to call me. OPPs thats name calling. I will try to be better. ;)

[stan v]

I'd love a piece, but not of that bet. :D

[Gresham CA]

Stan :rolleyes: Be nice. There are ladies present.

edited for puncuation, damnit and grammar

[ 03-28-2003, 07:52 PM: Message edited by: Gresham CA ]

[Meerkat]

Darn Gresham, I thought he wanted a piece of Donn :D Don't go shattering my illusions like that ;)

Based on rumors of alcohol consumption, a piece of Donn might be pretty tender, depending on how recently he marinaded himself ;)

[stan v]

Originally posted by Gresham CA:
Stan :rolleyes: Be nice. There are ladies present.

edited for puncuation, damnit and grammarLet me help.

Be nice. They're ladies present.

Meerkat, now that's funny! I only hope Donn doesn't think like you do.... :eek:

[ 03-28-2003, 07:56 PM: Message edited by: stan v ]

[Gresham CA]

Stan, It's been a long day for a Friday. Thank you.

Edited to add, Stan that still isn't right.

[ 03-28-2003, 07:59 PM: Message edited by: Gresham CA ]

[True Love]

Hey Meerkat,

Why don't you take your marbles and go home, you miserable little whiner.

It's because of you and your ilk that I rarely visit the WBF any longer. Not because of the conservatives on this Forum -- all 6 of them.

That knowledge will no doubt give comfort to you, as your kind thrive on being irritants to others.

May you rot in a very hot spot.

True Love

[stan v]

I'm drawing a blank myself, it's been an extraordinarily long WEEK.

Hey! There are ladies present.

[ 03-28-2003, 08:05 PM: Message edited by: stan v ]

[Gresham CA]

Stan,
You and I need to go and talk about stuff other than politics. I'll buy the first round.

[stan v]

How many rounds have we had already? tongue.gif

[Gresham CA]

TL,
This is what I'm taking about. When my children were younger I tried to teach them that when you started name calling, you lost ALL credibility. And they were younger a long time ago.

[stan v]

Hey Fearkitty, before you rot in a very hot spot, you owe Charles and I an apology. You've screwed up our perfect spelling with your bad vibes. We're waiting.... tongue.gif

[Gresham CA]

Not sure but I know it's your turn to buy. ;)

[Gresham CA]

LOL I'll have one with Meerkat too. As long as I'm not graded on spelling.

[Meerkat]

Oh, sorry stan - I was just trying to figure out which of the many hot spots on my hot self are likely to rot first ;)

All I can say about your spelling is that it was a very good thing for your kids that you didn't have to take a class in reproduction to get that right! :D

[John Bell]

Originally posted by Gresham CA:
Stan,
You and I need to go and talk about stuff other than politics. I'll buy the first round.How about boats? Wooden boats... :D

[Gresham CA]

Works for me John. I dont have one, but the one I have has a wooden floor in it that I put in.

edited to add:

But I have the plans for one.

[ 03-28-2003, 08:20 PM: Message edited by: Gresham CA ]

[stan v]

As a matter of fact, boy and girls, I have the frame completed for the overhead and was anticipating placing the ply top tomorrow. Can't due to my no count son can't play. We play Sunday at deer camp. I do need to take some photos for y'all to see the progress. One of these days.

[Mr. Know It All]

Originally posted by Memphis Mike:
What Meerkat says is the truth. People are leaving because of the remarks of a few that are hellbent on instilling their one sided beliefs concerning this war.========================================

Sadly I have to agree with Mikey (and Meerkat) on this one. :( I will also confess to being uncivil myself at times and compounding the problem. I intend to change what I have control over......myself.
Peace---&gt; Kevin in Ohio

[Gresham CA]

Deer camp? They are out of season here. But turkeys aren't. Maybe them?

[stan v]

Originally posted by Mr. Know It All:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Memphis Mike:
What Meerkat says is the truth. People are leaving because of the remarks of a few that are hellbent on instilling their one sided beliefs concerning this war.========================================

Sadly I have to agree with Mikey (and Meerkat) on this one. :( I will also confess to being uncivil myself at times and compounding the problem. I intend to change what I have control over......myself.
Peace---&gt; Kevin in Ohio</font>[/QUOTE]Kev, it's sad if you have to agree with those two. Me, I ain't changing anything. In fact, don't think I'll change my undies the rest of the weekend. Just in case Donn is interested. tongue.gif

We have lanes to cut, and two stands we want to place before the heat sets in here. Could run across a hog, there is no season or limit on pigs.

[ 03-28-2003, 08:32 PM: Message edited by: stan v ]

[Gresham CA]

MKIA,
glad you decided to join our CIVIL discourse.

Stan,
Been there. We lost our lease so I depend on a buddy when it comes to deer hunting.

[stevenovascotia]

"We have lanes to cut, and two stands we want to place before the heat sets in here. Could run across a hog, there is no season or limit on pigs."

------------------------------------------------

You hunt deer from a stand! and you cut them lanes! That's a shooting gallery not hunting General. How terribly unsporting. :(

[Greg H]

Good night folks......and I'll leave you with a little Zappa.
Take it to heart 'cause it applies to each and every one of us.....

Pardon my French..

*Hey! Do you know what you are?*
*You're an ******* ! An ******* !*
You might pretend you ain't got one on the bottom of you,
But don't fool yerself girl
It's lookin' at you
Don't fool yerself girl
It's winkin' at you
Don't fool yerself girl
It's blinhin' at you.........

;)

[On Vacation]

Originally posted by stevenovascotia:
"We have lanes to cut, and two stands we want to place before the heat sets in here. Could run across a hog, there is no season or limit on pigs."

------------------------------------------------

You hunt deer from a stand! and you cut them lanes! That's a shooting gallery not hunting General. How terribly unsporting. :( A deer on the grill, or ground up for hamburger, is better than a deer in the brush, period.

[John Bell]

You can hunt deer year 'round if you use the right weapon. Rental cars are good... Get the optional LDW. :D

Out in west Texas, the hunting is particularly good around my in-laws house. Gotta watch out for the skunks, tho.

[Gresham CA]

Stevnovascotia,
How do you do it?

[Gresham CA]

John,
They don't have to be rental. It will still make for a bad evening that way though.

[stan v]

Are there REALLY only 6 conservatives on this forum?

[stevenovascotia]

Actually I don't anymore. However, IMHO its not quite right to cut lanes, sit in tree stands, and bait game. It should be done by stalking and outwitting the game.... Oh, I see where this is going...Good idea Stan, y'all better cut some lanes, we don't want you to go hungry now. ;)

[On Vacation]

Originally posted by Steve Paskey:
Thanks for saying this, Meerkat. I'm among those who rarely visit miscellaneous and never post here. A few days ago I was sorely tempted to respond to some of the posts supporting the war, but it was clear that certain people have no tolerance for intelligence discourse with those of us who question the wisdom of what our government is doing in Iraq.

This is not a trivial issue with me: unlike most folks here, I live and work in Washington, DC, the most likely target for another mass terror attack. The Bush administration's attack on Iraq will not make me safer: Iraq has never been a serious threat to the U.S., and is far less likely to provide real material support to terrorists than Saudi Arabia, Syria, Libya, Iran, or Pakistan, to name a few. (You'll note that the list includes a few of our purported "allies.") Instead, the war has inflamed anti-American sentiments, and has SUBSTANTIALLY increased the risk that my family, friends, or colleagues will suffer death or serious injury.Steve, you must be very blind to Meerkats response on this forum. He is the king of assaults, attacks, name calling, and just bigotry to the world around him. Six, so Conservatives, will never bring down anything except the the false prophets of the Democratic-Socialist party backers here and in real life.

[ 03-28-2003, 08:59 PM: Message edited by: Oyster ]

[Memphis Mike]

Posted by Stan:

"Kev, it's sad if you have to agree with those two. Me, I ain't changing anything. In fact, don't think I'll change my undies the rest of the weekend. Just in case Donn is interested."

Naw, I don't think Donn would be interested in dead gerbils.

[Gresham CA]

Hello Steve,
Well seeing as I live just west of the nations largest "nucular" weapons facilities (Savannah River Site) and it is a lot more dangerous than the hot air in Washington, I've found it's a lot easier to have a pleasant conversation than to worry about whether or not something MIGHT happen to us. How are things going for you this evening?

[Gresham CA]

Stevenovascotia,
Down here the deer are like rabbits and will starve themselves out or be agricultural pests if not controlled. I saw one dead on the side of the road this evening coming from the sail club. I do have a problem with the people that drive them with dogs though.

[Meerkat]

Originally posted by Gresham CA:
Stevenovascotia,
Down here the deer are like rabbits and will starve themselves out or be agricultural pests if not controlled. I saw one dead on the side of the road this evening coming from the sail club. I do have a problem with the people that drive them with dogs though.Damn Charles, I didn't even know there where states where dogs could get driving licenses! :D

[Larry P.]

Sneercat, you really are an ass. You accuse others of what you have started. I've been here a hell of alot longer than you and I can tell you the decline of the borad started when you and your liberal little friends took over. You are a liar and a hypocrite and a destructive element on this forum.

[Meerkat]

Originally posted by stan v:
Are there REALLY only 6 conservatives on this forum?No, there are 5 conservatives - and a Texan (the liberals got first pick) :D

[On Vacation]

Originally posted by Larry P.:
Sneercat, you really are an ass. You accuse others of what you have started. I've been here a hell of alot longer than you and I can tell you the decline of the borad started when you and your liberal little friends took over. You are a liar and a hypocrite and a destructive element on this forum.Yep, you are right. The sad part of it is that some of us have had to go in the defensive mode to keep up with the decline. Casual conversation with diverse opinions, even strongly represented, was discussed in great detail, with sustance, a while back.

[Donn]

Originally posted by Larry P.:
Sneercat, you really are an ass. You accuse others of what you have started. I've been here a hell of alot longer than you and I can tell you the decline of the borad started when you and your liberal little friends took over. You are a liar and a hypocrite and a destructive element on this forum.No response, rodent? I'm disappointed. I figured you'd be squeaking by now.

[Meerkat]

Originally posted by Larry P.:
Sneercat, you really are an ass. You accuse others of what you have started. I've been here a hell of alot longer than you and I can tell you the decline of the borad started when you and your liberal little friends took over. You are a liar and a hypocrite and a destructive element on this forum.Larry, Larry, Larry...
I don't pick my friends based on their political views, nor do I pick them for size. It comes as complete news to me that they're little. :eek: BTW, what part of them did you measure for size in order to determine that they are little? Did they object to your measuring the selected part? Was it fun? Enquiring minds want to know! :D

[Paul Denison]

Those who are driven away from this forum have better sense than most of us. But really, it's obvious that the liberal post drives away the conservative and vice-versa. There are no monopolies here.

[Sam F]

Originally posted by stan v:
Are there REALLY only 6 conservatives on this forum?No! As far as I can tell, they're all liberals. :D

[High C]

"Can't we all just get along?"
Rodney King
Motorist

[High C]

Originally posted by stan v:
Are there REALLY only 6 conservatives on this forum?Make thet 7! :cool:

[ 03-28-2003, 10:23 PM: Message edited by: High C ]

[Mr. Know It All]

Originally posted by Greg H:
Good night folks......and I'll leave you with a little Zappa.
Take it to heart 'cause it applies to each and every one of us.....========================================

I think Zappa is wasted on conservatives but I'll add my quote to Greg's just to confuse them.


"The Mystery Man came over
An' he said: "I'm outa-site!"
He said, for a nominal service charge,
I could reach nervonna t'nite
If I was ready, willing 'n able
To pay him his regular fee
He would drop all the rest of his pressing affairs
And devote His Attention to me
But I said . . .
Look here brother,
Who you jivin' with that Cosmik Debris?
(Now who you jivin' with that Cosmik Debris?)
Look here brother,
Don't you waste your time on me

Peace----&gt; Kevin in Ohio :D

[stan v]

Steve! O Canada Steve, that is. We don't hunt open prairies in East Texas. I doubt you stalk successfully the whitetail deer anymore than we do down here. The greatest game animal in North America in my opinion. Thick pine forests (are you new to the forum, I've been through this drill before) make stalking, impossible. As we near hunting season, October through Jan 8, my enthusiasm will allow me to 'splain it again. Great deer hunting here.

High C, I say 6 since MM goes back and forth. Currently, he's on the other side, the dark side. With you, we may be 6. If TL would come back we'd be 7! I think we'd be 7. Certainly wouldn't be 6500 like the libs have.

[ 03-28-2003, 11:09 PM: Message edited by: stan v ]

[Ken Hall]

Kevin...are you sure? ;)

"I've got it all together now
With my very own disco clothes
My shirt's half open to show you my chain
And the spoon for up my nose
I am really something
That's what you'd probably say
So smoke your little smoke
And drink your little drink
While I dance the night away...
I'm a dancing fool..."

[mmd]

Sorry, Stan, but we do have whitetail deer here in Canada, and where Steve and I live we have rather rugged terrain and thick boreal forest, mostly spruce and fir with a bit of pine. And, yes, the usual method of hunting the deer is to get out there on foot and stalk them, but the real dedicated hunters do it with hunting bows, not rifles. I'd invite you up for a lesson or two, but I know you wouldn't like it here with all us sharp-shootin' socialists.

[ishmael]

To the tune, "As time goes by."

A troll is just a troll, a hook is just a hook, the fundamental things apply, as time goes by.

[Nicholas Carey]

Well...

IMHO, the real problem here isn't Left vs. Right, but that the Right here depends on the usual Right-wind rhetorical tactics.

They don't argue facts; they rely on drowning out anybody that disagrees with their POV. Further, there is no contemplation allowed for viewpoints at odds with their [previously arrived at] worldview: The sold answer to any problem is (A) free market capitalism and (B) US imperialism.

When was the last time you, StanV, Donn, Scott, Alan, etc., staked out a position based on fact, law and our cultural norms rather than the PR feed emanating from the White House and its girly men (Rush, etc.)

[Donn]

Originally posted by Nicholas Carey:
Well...

IMHO, the real problem here isn't Left vs. Right, but that the Right here depends on the usual Right-wind rhetorical tactics.

They don't argue facts; they rely on drowning out anybody that disagrees with their POV. Further, there is no contemplation allowed for viewpoints at odds with their [previously arrived at] worldview: The sold answer to any problem is (A) free market capitalism and (B) US imperialism.

When was the last time you, StanV, Donn, Scott, Alan, etc., staked out a position based on fact, law and our cultural norms rather than the PR feed emanating from the White House and its girly men (Rush, etc.)Here's a fact for you, Nick. Your party is not in office, our's is. Elected, appointed, whatever. The fact remains the same...you're out.

[Nicholas Carey]

Originally posted by Donn:
Here's a fact for you, Nick. Your party is not in office, our's is. Elected, appointed, whatever. The fact remains the same...you're out.But even when 'my party' (BTW, I'd hardly describe myself as a 'Democrat') was in power...I didn't blithely parrot the party line.

That's the difference between the Right and the Left: you guys don't actually appear to spend a lot of time thinking for yourself.

Blind obedience to authority may make for effective politics, but it doesn't make for a healthy body politic.

[LeeG]

Meerkat,,, Congratulations on setting up an antagonistic thread. Try something else in April.

[Greg H]

and god said.....

Ich bin der himmel
Ich bin das wasser

Ich bin der Dreck unter deinen Walze
Ich bin dein geheime Schmutz
Und verlorenes metal Geld
Metal Geld
Unter deine Ritzen
Ich bin deine Ritzen und Schlitze

Ich bin Wolke
Ich bin Bestickt
Ich bin der Autor aller Werken und Damast Paspern
Ich bin der Chrome Dinette
Ich bin der Chrome Dinette
Ich bin Eier aller Arten
Ich bin alle Tage und NSchte
Ich bin alle Tage und NSchte
Ich bin hier
Und du bist mein Sofa
Ich bin hier
Und du bist mein Sofa
Ich bin hier
Und du bist mein Sofa
Ich bin hier
Und du bist mein Sofa

[Chris Coose]

. What's The Ugliest Part Of Your Body?

What's the ugliest
Part of your body?
What's the ugliest
Part of your body?
Some say your nose
Some say your toes
(I think it's your mind)
But I think it's YOUR MIND
(Your mind)
I think it's your mind, woo woo

ALL YOUR CHILDREN ARE POOR
UNFORTUNATE VICTIMS OF
SYSTEMS BEYOND THEIR CONTROL
A PLAGUE UPON YOUR IGNORANCE & THE GRAY
DESPAIR OF YOUR UGLY LIFE

Where did Annie go
When she went to town?
Who are all those creeps
That she brings around?

ALL YOUR CHILDREN ARE POOR
UNFORTUNATE VICTIMS OF LIES YOU BELIEVE
A PLAGUE UPON YOUR IGNORANCE THAT KEEPS
THE YOUNG FROM THE TRUTH THEY DESERVE . . .

[stan v]

You're not a democrat? Nick. You're not a republican, that's obvious. You must be one of 'those' that is gonna complain (as I've seen on all of your posts, complain) no matter who is in office. Bi*ch and moan about America, her imperialism, her capitalism, her superior attitude. But you, you are far above that with your superior intellect. You'll not be led, by anybody. You KNOW that there are any number of locations on this planet that offer better living conditions. Is that about it?

[Meerkat]

Originally posted by stan v:
You're not a democrat? Nick. You're not a republican, that's obvious. You must be one of 'those' that is gonna complain (as I've seen on all of your posts, complain) no matter who is in office. Bi*ch and moan about America, her imperialism, her capitalism, her superior attitude. But you, you are far above that with your superior intellect. You'll not be led, by anybody. You KNOW that there are any number of locations on this planet that offer better living conditions. Is that about it?stan, what an absolutely beautiful example of making Nicholas' point for him. Not a single remark about the issues, just a typical republi-rant attacking the poster.

[stan v]

Yea, I've learned how to do that from responses on my posts.

[Meerkat]

Originally posted by stan v:
Yea, I've learned how to do that from responses on my posts.Bullsh*t

[stan v]

I thought you had changed? Donn was correct, I knew that bet was a loser.

On the other hand, I lied also. I did change my undies!

[Meerkat]

Originally posted by stan v:
I thought you had changed? Donn was correct, I knew that bet was a loser.

On the other hand, I lied also. I did change my undies!Heh - the bet was about responding to a certain marine mollusk as I understood it. As for change, I haven't noticed any on your part.

[stan v]

Do you want to see the undies I changed? Is this a trick you guys that troll on line use? I've heard of this kind of stuff.

[stan v]

Originally posted by Meerkat: I admit a weakness in responding to the drivel with drivel of my own at times and I intend to avoid doing so in the future.About 20 hours ago.

[Larry P.]

Larry, Larry, Larry...
I don't pick my friends based on their political views, nor do I pick them for size. It comes as complete news to me that they're little. BTW, what part of them did you measure for size in order to determine that they are little? Did they object to your measuring the selected part? Was it fun? Enquiring minds want to know!
Actually, Sneercrap I measured their brains, in your case it wasn’t hard I just had to find my micrometer.

[Nicholas Carey]

Originally posted by stan v:
You're not a democrat? Nick. You're not a republican, that's obvious.Nope, neither. i try to find the candidate who has a best-fit congruence with my points of view. Unfortunately, my choices are limited in this country if I wish to have something resembling a non-negative say over who actually gets elected.

Unfortunately, the Republican party's catering to the extreme right-wing fringe kind of leaves them out in the cold most of the time.


You must be one of 'those' that is gonna complain (as I've seen on all of your posts, complain) no matter who is in office. Bi*ch and moan about America, her imperialism, her capitalism, her superior attitude.Well...I did whine a lot about Clinton. Did I ever tell how lame-brained and foolish his plan for health-care reform was? The notion of fixing healthcare by imposing yet another huge layer of bureaucracy on top of the existing mess, rather than lobbying for real health-care reform and shifting to a system akin to that of France or Canada.

Or the absolute boneheadedness of the very first thing he did after assuming office; the lame attempt at integrating gays in the military. And, worse, having stumbled into the mess, backing down? If he had any sense, at the first sign of mutiny over that, he should have canned the JCS and any other staff officer who wasn't willing to obey orders over that issue. Like I said, lame and bone-headed. It was a huge loss of needed political capital for a miniscule amount of gain.

And I whined a a lot about Bush perie, too. He was a fairly wise, kind man who'd spent his life in service to his country. Unfortunately, having acheived the highest office in the land; a position in which people did what he told them to, he couldn't transcend his years of political servitude to learn to be his own man.

Whine a whole lot about Reagan. Evil man. Puppet of a bunch of Orange Country millionaires. Good actor with a good sense of how to play to the audience. Didn't make him a good president, though. He ran for office on a platform whose main plank was that he was going to cut taxes, hugely increase defense spending and balance the budget&mdash;all based on a dubious economic theory derided by serious economists. Didn't work. He did, though increase defense spending and cut taxes. As a result he managed to add more to the total national debt (in adjusted dollars) than did all his predescessors[ combined, including the Civil War, WWII and the Cold War. I'll give him credit, though: he did manage to pull us out of the recession of the late '70s and early 80's, but not via his trickle-down voodoo economics: it was strictly a Keynsian solution: massive (and in Reagan's case, I mean massive, on a scale never before seen) deficit spending to stimulate the economy.

Pretty good for a self-styled fiscal conservative who reneged on virtually every one of his campaign promises (save those made to the people who bankrolled him).

Let's be fair though. A large share of the blame during Reagan's maladministration has to lie with a Congress, both houses of which was controlled by the opposition party: they rolled over and gave him everything Reagan asked for.

And then there was the little case of the Iran-Contra affair, an impeachable offense against the state if ever there was one: the president and his agents acting in direct contravention to a law specifically limiting the presidents power WRT to foreign affairs. Made the Watergate affair look like a 7-year old shoplifting a candy bar. The Congress rolled over for that one too.

Jimmy Carter wasn't too bad. He f*cked up by letting the Iran hostage mess control his presidency. He'd have been better off by dealing with it in much the same way that the Soviet Union dealt with it (the Soviet embassy was occupied the same day, presumably by the same set of so-called 'students'.). The Soviet Union called Khomeni up on the telephone and simply pointed out, in no uncertain terms, that if things didn't straighten themselves out quickly, the Red Army's tanks, airplanes and missiles would be on the roll. I seem to remember that the Soviet embassy was free of 'students' that same day.

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I could go on, but you get the point: I'm a pretty equal-opportunity critic of the people who work for me. I have high expectations of them.

I 'whine' because I care about this country: I want it to fullful the dream laid down by Thos. Jefferson in the Declaration of Independence.


But you, you are far above that with your superior intellect.Far above what? I have a social obligation to participate in the body politic. Don't bitch if you don't vote, as the saying goes. Participation in the affairs of the country is an essential responsibility of a citizen in a democracy if you want the system to work. Elected officials serve me, not vice-versa. I am not merely a conduit to deliver them to power.


You'll not be led, by anybody.Yup. That's a true statement. I am a free man and am led by nobody. I serve my own interests as guided by my interpretation of the larger interests of the community(ies) to which I belong.

W doesn't 'lead' me; he serves, as my representative, my interests.


You KNOW that there are any number of locations on this planet that offer better living conditions. Is that about it?Geez...I don't know. France isn't bad; neither is Canada. I've got good reports on New Zealand and Australia.

Unfortunately, dislike of the current administration isn't reason to leave; au contraire, it's my obligation to hang around and exercise my rights as a free man to speak out in opposition to the wrongs my country is doing. Leaving the country would simply abandon it to evil.

Just remember...only dead fish go with the flow.

[Meerkat]

Most excellent Nicholas! Thank you.

[Dutch Rub]

Steveinscotia

those goodoleboys from the south gotta use bait, dogs, stands, lures and god knows what else to do their killin. Sportsmen they aint.