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km gresham
09-17-2004, 06:46 PM
Does a political candidate know that the race is lost? Just a question. When did Jimmy Carter (2nd race), Bob Dole, President GHW Bush, etc. know that it was over?

I know they keep campaigning and they appear to still believe they can win, but at some point (especially in blow outs) does someone tell them that they can't win? Or does the candidate ever admit to himself or close aides that he knows he can't win?

Donn
09-17-2004, 06:49 PM
Recently, it's been around Christmas! :D

LeeG
09-17-2004, 06:55 PM
who cares what a loser thinks! :D :eek: ;)

[ 09-17-2004, 08:00 PM: Message edited by: LeeG ]

km gresham
09-17-2004, 06:57 PM
Donn, :D

km gresham
09-17-2004, 06:59 PM
Lee, this is a one question thread. Start your own. :D But I guess a non answer is a kind of answer. I think if Bush were falling behind in the polls you would not have answered with your own question. ;)

Bruce Hooke
09-17-2004, 08:42 PM
Since you don't get to be one of the two (or three) major candidates by being someone who gives up easily I'm guessing that they probably usually do not really "give up" until sometime early on election day. After all, the apparent leader could make a major mistake or some huge scandal could come along or who knows what and suddenly things could all change. Each candidate is, of course, keeping very close tabs on the poll numbers in the key states so they have a good idea where things stand throughout the campaign, but even the best polls have a hard time nailing down exactly who is going to actually vote come election day.

Certainly it's way to early right now for either Bush or Kerry to give up -- after all, we have not even had any of the debates yet! Bush is leading at the moment but you are deluding yourself if you think he's got it wrapped up. However, feel free to delude yourself - it will only make it easier for Kerry to catch up. Remember Dewey? :D tongue.gif :D

Kev Smyth
09-17-2004, 08:54 PM
And we need to wait and see what "October surprises" may pop up! ;)

alteran
09-17-2004, 09:01 PM
When will Nader know enough to give up?
He was near me this week. Looks and sounds like an elderly anorexic loner with an ego problem.

I know a man like him. He lives by
himself in a little hut near a cedar swamp off the road to the village dump.

The man in the hut is more entertaining and just as electable.......

Domesticated_Mr. Know It All
09-17-2004, 09:01 PM
In this country just about anything is possible. :D

http://www.einsiders.com/features/images/sterndefeatsbush.jpg

[ 09-17-2004, 10:02 PM: Message edited by: Mr. Know It All ]

Joe (SoCal)
09-17-2004, 09:07 PM
Here ya go Karen
http://cache.corbis.com/education/images/marketing/contact/pic_1.jpg

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/treasures/images/at0069_4s.jpg

http://www.oldhistoricnewspapers.com/aaGop%20Wins.jpg

imported_Dutch
09-17-2004, 09:20 PM
http://www.clicktronic.com/archives/mission_accomplished.jpg

Peter Malcolm Jardine
09-17-2004, 10:40 PM
I wonder where that banner went :rolleyes:

paladin
09-17-2004, 11:01 PM
TP

Shang
09-17-2004, 11:11 PM
Mission Accomplished.

http://www.robert-fisk.com/1_147141_1_6.jpg

[ 09-18-2004, 12:30 AM: Message edited by: Shang ]

ljb5
09-18-2004, 08:10 AM
Ohio is back in play. A week ago, Bush led by 13 points. Today it's exactly split.

Mark Van
09-18-2004, 10:05 AM
In Al Gore's case, the Democrats STILL don't admit that he lost.

Donn
09-21-2004, 03:08 PM
"Ohio, which some call the new Florida, doesn't look too close. Bush is leading by 7 among likely voters in one poll, by 8 among registered voters in another. Bush's support stands at 49 and 50 percent."

link (http://www.news8austin.com/content/headlines/?ArID=120020&SecID=2)

"The Ohio Poll, sponsored and conducted by the University of Cincinnati's Institute for Policy Research, found that 54 percent of likely voters supported Bush. Democratic challenger John Kerry was favored by 43 percent. Two percent supported independent candidate Ralph Nader."

link (http://www.wcpo.com/news/2004/local/09/21/poll.html)

Rogue Sailor
09-21-2004, 07:50 PM
Ohio is back in play. A week ago, Bush led by 13 points. Today it's exactly split. Ohio? ..... Where's Ohio?

km gresham
09-21-2004, 08:02 PM
So true, Mark :D That answers my question.

Peter Malcolm Jardine
09-21-2004, 08:45 PM
I have run in three municipal campaigns and campaigned for someone else in two federal campaigns. I've lost as much as fifteen pounds and worn out a set of shoes on three of the five elections.

People who run for public office should be admired. Their life is taken over by the requirements of public office, and their personal life is open for scrutiny from every prying mean spirited eye. The reason they stand for office is that they believe in a group of policies and a standard of living that they feel will benefit their fellow citizens.

For each and every candidate the election is over when the polls are closed and counted. Even then, your work begins anew. ;)