paladin
09-21-2004, 03:06 AM
I received the following from another member of the International Association
of Bomb Technicians and Investigators. What happened in that school in Beslan,
Russia, needs to be understood if, God forbid, it ever happens here:
Subject: RE: Russian Hostage Situation
Not sure if you have followed the hostage incident at the school in Russia, but I've read a†lot of news on it and think it is pretty instructive for [Police Tactical] types.
Kidnappers are instructed to complete the following:
1) immediately kill all male hostages capable of resistance (The original doctrine had them selecting and killing "official" types and the armed. With so many hostages, they seem quite willing to kill men just†to make things more manageable. You can't let them consolidate. Thinking that you're gaining time by complying is an illusion.)
2) separate all hostages in groups of children, women and elderly; separate parents from children
3) immediately wire a perimeter with explosives to stop any quick acting assault team or attempted escape
4) Prohibit any stalling of negotiations by immediately killing hostages at first suspicion of stalling
5) Remain "detached" emotionally from hostages, avoid looking at females (Another report stated that some females were raped by the terrorists.)
6) Beware of food deliveries by team members; insist on a child or elderly deliverer, and have weak children or elderly taste food for safety first.
7) Beware of diversions during assault team ops; "assault teams will distract from one direction and assault from another"
8) Do not allow hostages to use† the bathroom
9) Organize their people in teams:
-1 to provide security to hostage takers/ set perimeter
-1 in charge of hostages
-1 to negotiate
10) Use only people well trained in small arms, "fighting", and explosives, and only those capable of handling high stress (Still some difficulty there--some of their members cracked and ran.)
11) Any released hostages will provide intelligence
Some Other things:
-These guys had the hostages squating with their hands on their heads for hours.
- They placed hostages in front of windows
- They ordered children to drink their own urine (Other reports said that this was the adults' idea--children were not allowed water and were cramped into the gym. To relieve heat and provide some liquid, adults urged kids to drink urine.)
- When children cried they killed an adult in front of them, then held the dead corpse in front of them while threatening to kill more (adults) if they cried out again. (Significant that the major media glossed over this. They reported only that a corpse was displayed to scare kids, not the murder for an example.)
- They planted weapons / explosives at the school beforehand by posing as construction workers (Pay attention to this! It worked for them in Russia, and we can expect similar actions in the future. Watch for the advance party. Interdicting--killing--the guys who're planting the guns may well end it before it begins.)
-they shot attempted escaping children in the back
- they used a female suicide bomber to blow up all the males in a separate area right after things kicked off (Female apparently had two switches. She was actually blown by remote, triggered by their commander. DO NOT LOLLYGAG AROUND A WIRED TERRORIST AFTER YOU SHOOT HIM. We're trying to save lives, not secure ground, so grab the innocents and move.)
- they exchanged clothes with hostages and tried to flee by mingleing with escaping hostages
- one actually posed as a wounded hostage and was taken out on a gurney by EMTs
- They killed over 300
The situation ended when the terrorists agreed to let an ambulance come in to take out the dead. When the ambulance came in many hostages tried to escape, and so did some of the disguised terrorists. Others opened fire on the escaping hostages. (Missing item here is that poorly wired booby trap blew unintentionally, and gunfire followed. OMON was forced into an immediate action, which they didn't seem to have well considered.)
There were 10 arabs identified with the rest of the Chechens. 1 article said the total was 26. (Latest count 30.)
The regular media is not covering the details of this, they are trying to portray it as an act of desperate "Chechen rebels" that are oppressed and trying to liberate their country. Putin is portrayed as a failing leader...
This was an attack on a "soft target" we hear so much about. It's right out of their training book. Pretty sick.
[ 09-21-2004, 04:10 AM: Message edited by: paladin ]
of Bomb Technicians and Investigators. What happened in that school in Beslan,
Russia, needs to be understood if, God forbid, it ever happens here:
Subject: RE: Russian Hostage Situation
Not sure if you have followed the hostage incident at the school in Russia, but I've read a†lot of news on it and think it is pretty instructive for [Police Tactical] types.
Kidnappers are instructed to complete the following:
1) immediately kill all male hostages capable of resistance (The original doctrine had them selecting and killing "official" types and the armed. With so many hostages, they seem quite willing to kill men just†to make things more manageable. You can't let them consolidate. Thinking that you're gaining time by complying is an illusion.)
2) separate all hostages in groups of children, women and elderly; separate parents from children
3) immediately wire a perimeter with explosives to stop any quick acting assault team or attempted escape
4) Prohibit any stalling of negotiations by immediately killing hostages at first suspicion of stalling
5) Remain "detached" emotionally from hostages, avoid looking at females (Another report stated that some females were raped by the terrorists.)
6) Beware of food deliveries by team members; insist on a child or elderly deliverer, and have weak children or elderly taste food for safety first.
7) Beware of diversions during assault team ops; "assault teams will distract from one direction and assault from another"
8) Do not allow hostages to use† the bathroom
9) Organize their people in teams:
-1 to provide security to hostage takers/ set perimeter
-1 in charge of hostages
-1 to negotiate
10) Use only people well trained in small arms, "fighting", and explosives, and only those capable of handling high stress (Still some difficulty there--some of their members cracked and ran.)
11) Any released hostages will provide intelligence
Some Other things:
-These guys had the hostages squating with their hands on their heads for hours.
- They placed hostages in front of windows
- They ordered children to drink their own urine (Other reports said that this was the adults' idea--children were not allowed water and were cramped into the gym. To relieve heat and provide some liquid, adults urged kids to drink urine.)
- When children cried they killed an adult in front of them, then held the dead corpse in front of them while threatening to kill more (adults) if they cried out again. (Significant that the major media glossed over this. They reported only that a corpse was displayed to scare kids, not the murder for an example.)
- They planted weapons / explosives at the school beforehand by posing as construction workers (Pay attention to this! It worked for them in Russia, and we can expect similar actions in the future. Watch for the advance party. Interdicting--killing--the guys who're planting the guns may well end it before it begins.)
-they shot attempted escaping children in the back
- they used a female suicide bomber to blow up all the males in a separate area right after things kicked off (Female apparently had two switches. She was actually blown by remote, triggered by their commander. DO NOT LOLLYGAG AROUND A WIRED TERRORIST AFTER YOU SHOOT HIM. We're trying to save lives, not secure ground, so grab the innocents and move.)
- they exchanged clothes with hostages and tried to flee by mingleing with escaping hostages
- one actually posed as a wounded hostage and was taken out on a gurney by EMTs
- They killed over 300
The situation ended when the terrorists agreed to let an ambulance come in to take out the dead. When the ambulance came in many hostages tried to escape, and so did some of the disguised terrorists. Others opened fire on the escaping hostages. (Missing item here is that poorly wired booby trap blew unintentionally, and gunfire followed. OMON was forced into an immediate action, which they didn't seem to have well considered.)
There were 10 arabs identified with the rest of the Chechens. 1 article said the total was 26. (Latest count 30.)
The regular media is not covering the details of this, they are trying to portray it as an act of desperate "Chechen rebels" that are oppressed and trying to liberate their country. Putin is portrayed as a failing leader...
This was an attack on a "soft target" we hear so much about. It's right out of their training book. Pretty sick.
[ 09-21-2004, 04:10 AM: Message edited by: paladin ]