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landlocked sailor
08-26-2005, 04:28 PM
We always enjoy these when we go to the shore, so I thought, "Why the hell not?" So we live in the hills of PA, showering alfresco is still a treat! I just finished building this one. http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid183/p8d96e9930557a79da7df8afa58802827/f2a3aaa9.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid183/p55bbb16d7fb4f8e5c7aeb2207f3ecc4f/f2a3aa9c.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid183/p2b1c71bfe67d0038d48d22dce34f7694/f2a3aa87.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid183/p860d2c611fc767cf574a6ce399c61f69/f2a3aa7e.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid183/pcc4a8b09baff0ef78be22d1850049702/f2a3aa71.jpg
Rick

Wayne Jeffers
08-26-2005, 04:34 PM
Nice work, Rick!

You did remember to arrange to drain the outside water lines in the winter, right? Wouldn't want anything to freeze and bust. ;)

Wayne

Bruce Hooke
08-26-2005, 04:43 PM
Nice work & a great idea.

After I've been wading around in the river doing water quality monitoring or river cleanups it would be great to have an outside shower to step into!

SandMaster
08-27-2005, 07:42 AM
How does it work without a "mixing valve"? I always thought a mixing valve was something you needed, but I aint much of a plumber.

landlocked sailor
08-27-2005, 09:23 AM
Yep Wayne, the lines slope into the basement and have taps with drain plugs for the "off-shower" season.
Sandmaster, the hot & cold lines combine after the valves; I turn the hot on full and adjust the cold for comfort. Rick

Meerkat
08-27-2005, 11:12 AM
You need some sort of lining on the building's wall. Otherwise, water is going to splash up under the siding and cause problems.

landlocked sailor
08-27-2005, 11:29 AM
Meer, the siding sheds the water just like rain. The brick foundation is high enough and the floor grate disperses the splash so retrograde splash should not be a problem. Rick

SandMaster
08-27-2005, 11:37 AM
NOt to beat a dead horse, but is not a mixing valve there for safety reasons? To keep someone from being scalded?

Paul Girouard
08-27-2005, 12:03 PM
Rick nice job , but we're going to have to shut you down for govt, "mental" concerns for your safety.

Jees guys ,,if he built that shower , pretty nice job BTW, I'm sure he can adjust the water temp ," without burnen his we willy." And is aware water will hit that nice old siding ( , Cedar??) Etc,

Maybe we should send in some jackbooted thugs to turn down the water tank temp to 75 just to be sure tongue.gif
Nice job Rick smile.gif enjoy it :cool:

Tar Devil
08-27-2005, 12:22 PM
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SandMaster
08-27-2005, 12:29 PM
That is a dandy looking shower Rick and I dont mean to denigrate your work but if you have kids or not I would urn the water heater down to 120 degrees max.

from plumbing engineer website.

25 Years and 125,000 Scalds
By Rand Ackroyd

While many advancements in preventing scald burns have been made over the past 25 years, the plumbing community still has a way to go.


Issue: 9/01

It was over 25 years ago when the U.S. Consumer Products Safety Commission reported, "...children under five years old account for almost 30% of the 100,000 annual bathtub- and shower-related accidents and burns from scalding, resulting in over 70 deaths each year." The report's recommendation was, "Turn down the temperature on the control water heater to 120 degrees F." Another report was issued in 1979 by the U.S.C.P.S.C. that stated, "An estimated 2,600 scald injuries per year are caused by excessive hot water..." and "...water scald injuries are severe and sometimes fatal." With the warning issued twenty-five years ago, you would think that we should be in good shape with reduced incidents of hot tap water scaldings. The most recent report from the National Safe Kids Campaign stated that 23,620 cases of water scalds were treated in hospitals, with one-fourth of the burns from hot tap water, and previous reports from the NSKC stated the average bathtub scald burn covers 12% of the body with a full thickness third-degree burn. And, some 4,000-5,000 tap water scalds per year are still occurring!

WindHawk
08-27-2005, 02:36 PM
Just think, when it's icy out & you finish your shower you can go roll nekkid in the snow...

No, wait. That's a suana...

Looks good. :cool:

Willin'
08-27-2005, 07:23 PM
Too cool, Rick! Brings back memories of surfing with my buds in Beach Haven. Generally someone would paddle in early to be the first to the shower behind the house. Last guy in usually got a pretty chilly shower. Of course we all faced the wrath of Mrs. Johnson when the gas bill came.

Nice work, I'd like to do something similar here for old time's sake, but I've only swum in the ocean once this summer. We still have footwash tubs by the back door though.

Cheers,

landlocked sailor
08-27-2005, 10:18 PM
Hey Tar Devil, it ain't a cold water shower and our summers here in the PA hills are every bit as hot & humid as the Carolina peidmont.
Sand, I tried to find a regular mixing valve for this application, but they are made to be put INSIDE the wall cavity, which I don't have. The local plumbing supply had nothing and 'Google' yielded the same. Nonetheless, a regular mixing valve is no less likely to result in scalds that separate valves; a thermostaticly controlled valve would be required. I don't have one of those on any other tap in my house. Very few people do. Rick

Tar Devil
08-27-2005, 10:56 PM
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SandMaster
08-28-2005, 12:08 AM
This is the kind of skin that could be burnt in a non mixing valve shower.

http://www.bestswimwear.com/coverstyle-swimwear2005/rastagirl-swimsuit/bikini.jpg ;)

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Tar Devil
08-28-2005, 12:13 AM
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SandMaster
08-28-2005, 12:30 AM
:(

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SandMaster
08-28-2005, 12:35 AM
sorry rick

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Tar Devil
08-28-2005, 12:35 AM
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SandMaster
08-28-2005, 01:34 AM
this hurts

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landlocked sailor
08-28-2005, 03:00 AM
Start your own thread! Rick :mad:

Tar Devil
08-28-2005, 09:32 AM
My apologies, Rick.

Phil

SandMaster
08-28-2005, 09:40 AM
Sorry Rick.

Really.

landlocked sailor
08-28-2005, 10:48 AM
Okay guys, it was kind of a long night in the ER. Rick

George Jung
08-28-2005, 01:34 PM
I like that outdoor shower; don't really see them this part of the country, but might add one to my doghouse (see Dingoisms). :D
What did you use, cedar? Any kind of sealant? On a tangent, any folks here build there own saunas? I've looked at the ones from Finlandia, seems straightforward enough.
My sympathies on the long night in the ER; been there, it gets old. How big of a hosp/er you work in?

ahp
08-28-2005, 02:22 PM
Doesn't look big enough for two.

George Jung
08-28-2005, 03:12 PM
where's your imagination? where there's a will, there's a way.. :D

Con LanAdo
08-29-2005, 06:43 AM
real sweet - put the whol;e thread in my to do box

landlocked sailor
08-29-2005, 07:18 AM
Amazing what a whole 10 hours of sleep will do! George, my ER sees ~32,000 patients per year, up from 18,000 in '97 when I started there. It's a 150 bed community hospital in a college town.
I did use cedar for the shower; western red for the stall and some atlantic white for the floor. I had some scraps left over from the current boat project, though that's been on the back burner for some months.
ahp, it's just under 4' wide and 34" deep. I had to fit it between the windows, but I think two could fit... ;) Rick

Mrleft8
08-29-2005, 07:25 AM
2 will definately fit...Like they say:"Where there's a wall, there's a way!"
Now all I gotta do is figure out where to put one at my house... :cool:

Pete Dorr
08-30-2005, 09:43 AM
The indoor shower valve will work outdoors just fine. Just must remember to pull the stem when you drain the pipes.

It does look a bit silly the pipe behind it exposed but it works great.

Pete

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Alan D. Hyde
08-30-2005, 10:26 AM
Here's our outdoor shower---

http://images.kodakgallery.com/photos1382/6/7/99/92/42/0/42929907607_0_ALB.jpg

That's the children's playhouse behind it---

http://images.kodakgallery.com/photos1386/6/76/18/66/32/0/32661876607_0_ALB.jpg

The pool to the East of it (looking South)---

http://images.kodakgallery.com/photos1448/6/7/99/92/23/0/23929907607_0_ALB.jpg

And the volleyball net and soccer goal beyond the pool (looking toward the SouthEast)---

http://images.kodakgallery.com/photos1447/6/7/99/92/63/0/63929907607_0_ALB.jpg

And, looking North from the other end---

http://images.kodakgallery.com/photos1386/6/76/8/90/71/0/71900876607_0_ALB.jpg

Alan

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Alan D. Hyde
08-30-2005, 01:13 PM
The arbor and outside shower (with swing in front) viewed from the NorthWest...

http://images.kodakgallery.com/photos1386/6/76/18/20/50/0/50201876607_0_ALB.jpg

We were busy with the little Casio digital camera Sunday. :D

Alan

landlocked sailor
08-30-2005, 05:48 PM
Looks like a helluva fun yard Alan. I have family in Zionsville. Rick

Alan D. Hyde
08-31-2005, 11:13 AM
Zionsville's a pretty area, Rick.

Alan