Outboard motor

[imported_Dutch]

Any one know of a reliable place to buy a good used one or a discount new one? 25-50 hp? Preferably Jap?

[Gresham CA]

I have a line on a NIB 40 Mercury with T&T for $3000 if you'd like the number I can get it to you.

[imported_Dutch]

Thank you Charles but the only Mecury/Mariner motors I ever cared for were those made in the late 80's early 90's by Japanese manufacturers.

[Gresham CA]

The Yamaha/Mercurys.

[brad9798]

After all your complaining about jobs going overseas, money going overseas, and how could we stand for this talk, America losing its values ... we just don't care about America, blah, blah, blah ... you want a Jap motor?

I LOVE IT!!

Ah, the hypocrisy!!!!!!!

You're so worried too about the environmental strains we put on Mother Earth, and your not going to get a 4-stroke?

It's a lot easier to complain than it is to act, isn't it Dutch??? tongue.gif

CLASSIC!!

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

HONDA 1999 90 horsepower four stroke

90 hp MORE POWER smile.gif smile.gif
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2485264354&category=50439

[Victor]

Before we all jump on the four-stroke bandwagon,

http://www.boatmotors.com/outboard/outboard_motor_ar ticle.html (http://www.boatmotors.com/outboard/outboard_motor_article.html)

Much heavier, much more expensive, can't take a dunking, no better fuel economy, less hp per pound. In fact they're not really any greener at all, just more pc.

And I'll pay more for American-made, but not if it's junk.

[ 07-23-2004, 03:58 PM: Message edited by: Victor ]

[John Bell]

Victor: I'll buy that 4-strokes are not really greener than direct injection 2-strokes (which is the point of the article above), but there is no comparison between a 4-stroke and an oil-mixed-in-gas two stroke. Conventional 2-strokes spit out a lot of unburned fuel and oil unlike their DFI 2-stroke and 4-stroke brethren.

Charles: $3K for a new Merc 40? That's good deal, and maybe a great deal depending on what motor it is.

Dutch: With modern motors, you have no idea who's making them. The 4-stroke Merc 75-90-115 all have Yammie powerheads. The smaller 4-stoke Mercs are all Tohatsu. I had a 15 Merc 4-stroke that was excellent. As for price, the best deals I found for Mercury motors was from Bass Pro Shops. No one else could touch them.

[ 07-23-2004, 04:17 PM: Message edited by: John Bell ]

[Keith Wilson]

Are there any direct-injected small (15-30 hp) two stroke outboards? I won't buy an older 2-stroke because of the pollution, but lighter weight would be good and the direct-injected ones are pretty clean. I'm not extremely concerned with fuel economy (smallish motor and not all that much use).

[High C]

Originally posted by Keith Wilson:
Are there any direct-injected small (15-30 hp) two stroke outboards?Keith, I think the smallest is the 50HP made by Tohatsu/Nissan. Under that, you gotta go 4 stroke to get a clean motor.

Online Nissan/Tohatsu Dealer, good site with specs (http://www.onlineoutboards.com/)

[John Bell]

Nissan/Tohatsu came out with 40 and 50 HP low pressure DI motors last year.

What I suspect is going to happen in the OB market is that from 2-100HP, everything will be 4-stroke and there will be a choice of either 4-strokes or a DFI 2-strokes from 100-300HP. Carbureted 2-strokes with pre-mix gas and oil are going to be relegated to dinosaur status.

Direct injection is pretty complex to do right, especially if emissions are a concern. Lean is clean, but ask owners of all the blown-up Optimax Mercs, HPPDI Yammies, and Ficht Johnson-rudes about running too lean.

[ 07-23-2004, 10:46 PM: Message edited by: John Bell ]

[imported_Dutch]

I found out about this place yesterday.

web page (http://www.edsmarinesuperstore.com/)

[Figmental]

I got a good deal on a Honda 9.9 at River Marine in Miami. They can access the factory wharehouse to look for older NIB engines. I got an electric start 2002 9.9 for $1730 with remote controls.

[Gresham CA]

John, It's a NIB 2002. The problem is that by the time you buy your controls for the thing, you could have bought a current model. Now if you already had your controls thats another story.

[John Bell]

If you had a 75-115 in the same price range, I'd be all over it. I've been torturing my mechanic with our 115 this summer. It's got an intermittent miss between 2800 and 3900 rpms that has been driving him crazy trying to track down. He even had the regional factory service rep take a look at it this week. The factory guy has recommended rejetting the carbs down two thousandnths. We'll see what happens come Tuesday...

[Domesticated_Mr. Know It All]

I have a 1961 Johnson Seahorse 75HP in the garage.
It weighs 400 pounds and hasn't run for about 10 years. If you come get this *&%$#@! outta my garage, you can have it for free Dutch. :D