Linda Ronstadt Booo'd OFF STAGE!

[N. Scheuer]

Linda Ronstadt Booo'd off stage in Las Vegas! Republican sympathisers erupt in near-riot!

Was it really news that LR is a deeply committed Liberal Democrat? She used to date Jerry Brown fer cryin' out loud!

Fortunately for LR the protest happened after her encore number.

With this sort of behavior conservative Republicans are carring "I'm taking my ball and bat HOME if you won't play RIGHT"!

Oh, well; give em enough rope and they won't be able to win the office of Dog Catcher. And that would be a GOOD thing.

Moby Nick

[stan v]

:D :D

They're falling faster than a sack full of concrete. Keep it up entertainers! :D

[DavesFlatsBoat]

It's amazing. In the marketplace, the customer complains when the product is not to his/her liking. There ought to be a law against that!

[Ian McColgin]

Didn't I read that the casino operator has said she'll never play his palace again.

What a twit.

Fortunatly, Mary Ellen and I are going to see a Tom Rush concert tonight. Yes, still alive and (new father at 62+) "producing my own grandchildren."

So, we'll get over it.

Republicans who still want the guilty pleasure of LR will have to be like Roman Catholics dealing with the Index.

Speaking of which, why is it that me and my lefty friends enjoy most of John Wayne from Stagecoach to True Grit and the Shootist and on while R's are so litmus test. Wayne thought that High Noon was a commie flic.

He was a terrible Ghengis Kahn!

Anyway, back to music . . . like hair . . . we still have the best.

[km gresham]

She forgot the rule of an entertainer - "know your audience". ;)

[LeeG]

I do remember Dave and as always, my discussion is civil and in this matter, thoughtful. I don't think because a topic is sensitive it needs be ignored.

I have real concern over the measures some political operatives have taken to obstruct a panel that is supposed to make recommendations to keep our country safe from events like 9/11.
I have a real concern that the former president of the US finds the matter humorous.

We have some major events coming up very soon that will invite terrorist attacks. I am concerned that the 9/11 panel did not get a complete and truthful picture of the dangers and the errors before 9/11 and therefore the suggestions and recommendations will be flawed.

[ 07-21-2004, 08:41 AM: Message edited by: km gresham ]

Karen, where are you reading that Berger/operatives have obstructed the hearings? If anything our president was dragged into supporting their existance.
I agree that if Bergers behaviour is a serious breach of security that Clintions humor is bizarre,,as bizarre as a former official and likely democratic appointee jinxing Kerry choosing him for the next administration,,but some might say that GWs joking about WMD while soldiers are dying might be bizarre as well,,,oh well, guess it depends on ones perspective.
Have a good day.

[Gresham CA]

Lee, What's that got to do with Linda Ronstadt?

Ian, The manager of the casino also stated that she was hired to entertain, not give political commentary.

[LeeG]

it's an example of how easy it is to take things out of context,,all it takes is putting words on a page.

[km gresham]

:confused:

Oh, well, next time Linda goes to giving political commentary I s'pose she'll make sure she's among kindred minds. ;) :D

[Donn]

I heard they got on her when she dedicated "Desperado" to Moore. Considering the lyrics, I'm not sure if whe was praising him or taunting him. Any way, she does a great version of the song. I have a few of her albums on the laptop, and I really enjoy her voice. When I was stationed in San Diego, I saw her in concert with Stone Ponies. Fell for her instantly, loved her ever since, all but the Mexican music.

[John of Phoenix]

On the subject of Las Vegas acts, if you ever have the chance to see Wayne Newton, go to the dentist instead. It will be a much more pleasant experience.

[LeeG]

same here Donn,,,sweet voice

[ljb5]

I hear the crowd went crazy and tore down posters and vandalized the place.

[Gresham CA]

Danke schoen for the advice John. smile.gif

[Garrett Lowell]

When I attend a concert, I'm paying to hear the performer perform. I get tired of the politics, and it's my chance to do something else. If I want politics, I'll go to a political rally. Perhaps that's why folks get angry at these concerts, no matter the political leanings of the performer.

[LeeG]

there were probably instigators in the audience,,,al qeda or foreign fighters.

[Gresham CA]

I think you're on to something Lee. LRCD's. Linda Ronstadt Concert Disrupters. I've heard of them before. They are a nasty bunch. But not nearly as nasty as the Don Ho Concert Disrupters.

[ 07-21-2004, 10:25 AM: Message edited by: Gresham CA ]

[Garrett Lowell]

According to the Las Vegas Sun newspaper, some concert goers "reportedly" defaced and tossed drinks on some Ronstadt posters.

[Garrett Lowell]

The LV Sun concert reviewer also stated that her performance was less than good, which may also have attributed to the booing.

[LeeG]

I saw a less than rousing performance of The Taming of the Shrew,,but maybe the lack of alcohol kept the audience in check.

[Garrett Lowell]

Yes, don't forget the alcohol. I admit I've behaved in less-than-stellar fashion when under the influence.

[High C]

When will these goofballs learn? :rolleyes:

[mmd]

Ohh, I can't resist... ;)

To paraphrase this:

When I attend a concert, I'm paying to hear the performer perform. I get tired of the politics, and it's my chance to do something else. If I want politics, I'll go to a political rally. Perhaps that's why folks get angry at these concerts, no matter the political leanings of the performer. When I visit a boat-related website, I'm visiting to read and discuss about boats and boat-related things. I get tired of the politics, and it's my chance to do something else. If I want politics, I'll go to a political rally. Perhaps that's why folks get angry at these postings, no matter the political leanings of the poster.

(No personal offense intended, Garrett)

[ 07-21-2004, 11:41 AM: Message edited by: mmd ]

[High C]

Originally posted by mmd:
When I visit a boat-related website, I'm visiting to read and discuss about boats and boat-related things.Misc. Non-Boat Related

[Bruce G]

When I visit a boat-related website Its a good thing right now your in the Misc. Non-Boat Related section then ;)

[Bruce G]

High C-- you beat me to it :D

[Garrett Lowell]

None, taken, Michael. But you aren't paying to use this website, are you? Edited to add: If I go to the concert and it's free, no problem.

[ 07-21-2004, 11:58 AM: Message edited by: Garrett Lowell ]

[Bruce G]

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040720/capt.ny10807200303.people_ronstadt_ny108.jpg

Not only has she lost the respect of many Americans, she has lost all of her looks too :eek:

[Jack Heinlen]

Sigh.

Why aging rockers need to spout politics is beyond me, they should be glad some still pay to see them.

The facts of this story, as reported, are just weird. They sound like something from the Russian Revolution, or Kristalnacht. I'm serious, what is this fervor? where is the divide?

If puffy Linda wants to dedicate a song to fat Michael who cares? Why do they? It's just an over-the-hill entertainer giving service to a fart blat.

Ignore it, there are bigger fish to fry.

[ 07-21-2004, 12:25 PM: Message edited by: Jack Heinlen ]

[High C]

Originally posted by Jack Heinlen:
....what is this fervor?....If puffy Linda wants to dedicate a song to fat Michael who cares?It's because this was not an isolated event. It has become quite common for entertainers to abuse the stage to preach their personal views, and people are sick of it.

[Jack Heinlen]

It's because this was not an isolated event. It has become quite common for entertainers to abuse the stage to preach their personal views, and people are sick of it. So don't buy tickets to see them. It's not a major issue. Sandy Berger secreting off with classified memos is a major issue. Linda doesn't even blue my red litmus paper. Drudge is such a whore.

[Memphis Mike]

She hasn't lost my respect and I bet it would be perfectly OK with you Neocons if some performer got up on stage and belittled John Kerry or Bill Clinton.

The more of them that spread the message of the lies and deceit of the Dubya the better.

You all can't stand it that most of Hollywood and entertainers in general {except for that panty waste Arnold} are liberals that support Kerry. Give or take a few redneck S*&!kickers in Nashville. You all are running scared. The Dubya is going down.

[ 07-21-2004, 12:58 PM: Message edited by: Memphis Mike ]

[km gresham]

I never knew Mel Gibson and Bo Derek and Bruce Willis ... were from Nashville! :D

[John of Phoenix]

That Wayne Newton show I saw could have been a part of the republican convention. Ironically, he started off saying he was sick of politics and the division of the country and that got huge applause. A couple of minutes later he was dissing Kerry. A few folks walked out as the show and the politics progressed but it could have been his singing. It was HORRIBLE.

That puffy thing must be going around. He looked a bit inflated too.

Looks like Sir Elton may wind up on the hit list too.


At the weekend Sir Elton John spoke out against what he termed the "atmosphere of fear" in the US that prevented artists speaking out against the war in Iraq.

"There's an atmosphere in America right now that is deadly," he told Interview magazine. "Everyone is too career-conscious. They're all too scared.

"I don't know if there's been a time when the fear factor played such an important role in America since McCarthyism in the 1950s, as it does now," he added. http://film.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/Guardian/0,4029,1265642,00.html

[ 07-21-2004, 01:21 PM: Message edited by: John Teetsel ]

[High C]

Originally posted by Jack Heinlen:
It's not a major issue. Sandy Berger secreting off with classified memos is a major issue.... Drudge is such a whore.Drudge a whore? :confused: He's headlining with the Berger thing, and the Linda thing is all over the place. So Drudge is a whore? His is just a links site. He gathers together links to many different news sources in one place. :confused:

[Jack Heinlen]

You all can't stand it that most of Hollywood and entertainers in general {except for that panty waste Arnold} are liberals that support Kerry. I don't care what most of those people think and say. When Humphrey Bogart took a stand against McCarthy, risked his aging self and career against a witch hunt, one stood up and noticed.

These 'entertainment types' now, with few exceptions, Gibson comes to mind, are pismires. Listen to what Barbara Streisand has to say. It will quickly be evident that she should stick to singing.

The real point is, who cares? Why do we? Because they've displayed some talent on screen or stage we're supposed to pay attention to their politics?

Sad, when this is the vanguard of liberalism these days.

[km gresham]

I'm still trying to get over Mel Gibson being from Nashville! ;)

Actually, I'd just as soon not know anything about the politics of entertainers, but knowing helps me decide who to support with my entertainment dollars. ;) smile.gif

[Matt J.]

Originally posted by Jack Heinlen:

The real point is, who cares? Why do we? Because they've displayed some talent on screen or stage we're supposed to pay attention to their politics?
Thank you, Jack, well said. That's the point.

[ 07-21-2004, 01:40 PM: Message edited by: Matt J. ]

[Rogue Sailor]

I recently attended a Jewel concert in Albany NY. She sings like a bird. Lovely!

She didn't utter one word about politics. I appreciated that. I paid to be entertained, and I got a great value for my investment.

Cap'n Joe

[km gresham]

Don't these same folks march up to capitol hill every so often to give expert testimony to congress about one cause or another?

Maybe they can just sing and act and do all that stuff that entertains us! :D

[Matt J.]

Originally posted by km gresham:
Don't these same folks march up to capitol hill every so often to give expert testimony to congress about one cause or another?
And regardless of which side of the aisle they're on, that's outrageous.

[Jack Heinlen]

There is something larger afoot, I can't say quite what. This tiff in Vegas should be a minor on the back pages of Variety . Instead it makes a splash, in large part because of that media whore Drudge.

He drew our attention, and now we are fussing over it.(That's why I call him a whore High-C, small story, major brouhaha. He doesn't select stories for their newsworthiness, but for their 'man bites dog' quality. Like media people forever, not to single him out).

So what is this? It clearly speaks of divide in the heart.

[km gresham]

I'm not fussing. smile.gif

[Scott Rosen]

Heard about this on the radio this morning and got a good laugh.

She's a fat, aging rocker who's reduced to playing Vegas, for heaven's sake. Yet she behaves as if she's 21 and playing at Woodstock.

Sad that she doesn't understand what Vegas is about.

It's where filthy rich business people have made it acceptable, even desirable, to pay for sex, gamble your life's savings away and drink yourself to oblivion. It's where prostitution is a regulated activity and the whores are inspected for disease prior to consumption, like cattle. Their new marketing motto is "What happens here, stays here." A respectable business person in Vegas would be in jail just about anyplace else.

But some of these profiteers of sin are loyal, patriotic Republicans who may sell sex for money, but they won't tolerate criticism of their President.

Sure, you could go to Vegas and not drink, gamble and whore. But why would you want to?

What a place.

[km gresham]

Never been and no desire to go ;) Looks crowded and noisy. :eek:

Reminds me: "Nobody goes there anymore - it's too crowded." :D

[imported_Dutch]

Not much for gamblin, but hey, two out of three aint bad!

[John Bell]

Underlying politics of the thing aside, this appears to be a perfectly excecuted publicity stunt on the part of LR. She hasn't had much recent commercial success. Now she's got tons of free publicity, the kind that no amount of money in the world can buy. I'll bet she sees a nice little bump in her record sales. There's no such thing as bad publicity!

And yes, Lord, can she sing!

[High C]

Prostitution is illegal in Las Vegas.

[km gresham]

Good point, Mr. Bell! I forgot - FOLLOW THE MONEY! :D

[John Bell]

Originally posted by km gresham:
Good point, Mr. Bell! I forgot - FOLLOW THE MONEY! :D Now Karen, I'm not saying it was a planned publicity stunt. Even a blind hog finds an acorn every now and then...

[Osborne Russel]

Originally posted by km gresham:
Don't these same folks march up to capitol hill every so often to give expert testimony to congress about one cause or another?

Maybe they can just sing and act and do all that stuff that entertains us! :D Ja speshly that pendejo Schwarzenegger

[km gresham]

:D yep, that's true, John. :D

Schwarzeneger doesn't count as an entertainer/cum political activist - he's become a bona fide politician now - thanks to Gray Davis. ;)

[mmd]

Let me see if I have this facet of American politics correct...

If an entertainer who believes strongly in a certain political cause and makes these views known publicly and is reported on widely because of their "recognition factor", he/she is open to castigation because their profession doesn't provide them with enough intelligence and knowledge to be pertinent.

If an entertainer - even one who was not born nor raised American and nurtured in the arms of American culture and tradition - who believes strongly in a certain political cause and runs for office and wins - partly due to their "recognition factor" - then they are exempt from criticism because they won.

Is that correct?

One other thing about American culture than puzzles me: It appears to me, here on the outside, that one of the features of American society is that everyone is encouraged to go out and work hard to be successful and accumulate wealth for one's self. If so, why are people who do it very successfully, like Bill Gates, criticised so much instead of held up as an icon of the "American way"? Is there a threshold of too much success?

[Memphis Mike]

"If so, why are people who do it very successfully, like Bill Gates, criticised so much instead of held up as an icon of the "American way"? Is there a threshold of too much success?"

Because the majority of them are greedy Republican leeches.

[John Bell]

Originally posted by Memphis Mike:
"If so, why are people who do it very successfully, like Bill Gates, criticised so much instead of held up as an icon of the "American way"? Is there a threshold of too much success?"

Because the majority of them are greedy Republican leeches.:confused:

Now there's a non sequitur if I ever saw one!

[John of Phoenix]

Gates to donate $3 billion windfall (http://www.nytimes.com/cnet/CNET_2100-7343_3-5277369.html)


Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates plans to give himself a $3 billion bonus.

But unlike many top executives in Corporate America, the world's richest man doesn't plan to keep a penny of it.

In the past, the [Gates] foundation has pledged $60 million for research into microbicides to help prevent the spread of HIV and $40 million to create 70 schools dedicated to helping students earn high-school diplomas.

Well they're not ALL republicans. ;)

[Garrett Lowell]

Many of these extremely successful people, if not all of them, are philanthropists. Ever been to any of the Smithsonian Institute Museums (at no admission charge)? These examples are too numerous to count.

[Memphis Mike]

I did say the majority.

[Garrett Lowell]

Well, that's a little more specific.

[Donn]

Gates is giving me (and every other MSFT shareholder) a bonus, too. I'm keeping mine. :D

[TimH]

MS should put that money toward good use. Like paying for my education :D The shareholders will just use it to help stimulate overseas economies, like China mainly. Is anything made in USA anymore? I just bought a new 1/2" drive DeWalt drill....made in meheeco. I bought it cause my batteries are dying in my Makita drill, and for boring large holes the 10 year old cordless Makita isnt that great anyway. Buy American while you can cause while its hard to find "Made in America" these days...soon it will be impossible. Except for stuff like I make at work....AWAX parts!

[Domesticated_Mr. Know It All]

Personally' I'd be interested in talking politics with Tina. :D

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/MMPH/245739.jpg

My favorite quote so far in this thread is....
"You all are running scared. The Dubya is going down."



:D :D :D

[ 07-21-2004, 08:35 PM: Message edited by: Mr. Know It All ]

[Meerkat]

Oh yeah, "the dub" is going down and I know why!

People are going to vote their pocketbooks and the number of people who have seen little benefit from the tax cuts and who continue to be in fear of losing their jobs vastly outnumber those who have benefited from "the dub" and his ilk.

It may be true that 5% of taxpayers make 50% of the income, but 50% of the taxpayers make $35,000/year or less.

[km gresham]

;)

[Dennis Marshall]

And according to Bill Clinton, at least while he was president, considered those who make 35K "wealthy". So, you need to speak about those who make $34,900 and less as being impoverished. :rolleyes:

[Skiff Junkie]

It's an imposter! This is linda Ronstadt...
http://www.ronstadt-linda.com/lindaalb.jpg

This is Ms. Swan from MAD TV.
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040720/capt.ny10807200303.people_ronstadt_ny108.jpg

[Jamie Hascall]

Hmmm..., You never know the further ramifications of how this may play...

Ronstadt's Vegas Comeback? (http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,14564,00.html?tnews)

This could be a show to remember, especially with Big Mike joining her in America the Beautiful. :D

[Osborne Russel]

Originally posted by mmd:
If an entertainer - even one who was not born nor raised American and nurtured in the arms of American culture and tradition - who believes strongly in a certain political cause and runs for office and wins - partly due to their "recognition factor" - then they are exempt from criticism because they won.

Is that correct?
Only if it's Ronald Reagan or Arnold Schwarzenegger or a republican. The republican party is the party of the people, not of entertainment figures; and they vigorously oppose, on principle, the gaining of political office, and the expression of political opinion, by entertainers who are not republicans.

[Matt J.]

:rolleyes:

If some lame brain celeb wants to win the political popularity contests, there's nothing we can do about it but vote.

When celebrities are given audience with congress for anything aside from entertainment... there's something more seriously wrong. Regardless of political party affiliation. They are becoming american royalty... and that's scary. :eek:

[Matt J.]

Mike,
I think being in political office is less offensive because that doesn't qualify you as anything but an office holder. Most politicians (most as in 99.8%) are useless anyway. When celebs go and tell congress about something they know little or nothing about aside from an aide briefing them... as if they were knowledgeable, and that congress makes laws or decisions based on celeb testimony it's a dangerous dog and pony show.

Not exempt, just less dangerous. Somehow. :rolleyes:

[Wild Dingo]

A question regarding Arnie Swaz... errr Schwa... err Shwaz... ooh ****e! :eek: Conan! :rolleyes:

Being as hes Austrian not American... Note here I dont know if hes taken US Citezenship or not... but even so can he become President? gawd what frienghtening thought!! The man who admires Hitler president of the US??? gawd help us!

Anyway its a thought thats been botherin me since he became Governor

[Meerkat]

You have to be actually born in the US to become president. There's been a small flurry of fluff brains talking about ammending the constitution to allow Ahnald to run. :rolleyes:

[John Bell]

Originally posted by Wild Dingo:
A question regarding Arnie Swaz... errr Schwa... err Shwaz... ooh ****e! :eek: Conan! :rolleyes:

Being as hes Austrian not American... Note here I dont know if hes taken US Citezenship or not... but even so can he become President? gawd what frienghtening thought!! The man who admires Hitler president of the US??? gawd help us!

Anyway its a thought thats been botherin me since he became GovernorNope, he can not ever be President. The US Constitution clearly spells this out in Article II, Sec. I:


No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.As for entertainers having political points of view, I have no problem when they are on their own time.. But for them to push their point of veiw while working for their wages, wages that I'm paying with my admission, well that's not accecptable to me whether I agree with them or not. When I go to a concert I'm paying to be entertained, not preached to.

Entertainers ought to be realize that they piss off their audience at their peril. Fame and the attendant fortune drived from fame is a fickle thing. They ought to know that celebrity status is granted by the people and it can be taken away by the public in a mere moment if that public so desires. Polarizing potential customers is bad for ticket sales.

[DavesFlatsBoat]

How Shane ....

Conan is an American Citizen, but the Constitution prevents him from being elected President.

Actually watch Conan the Barbarian the other night on DVD - Arnold was getting busier than Clinton at a Weight Watcher's Convention. Forgot how bad the movie really was - but heck, do ya' want to live forever?

Dave