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paladin
08-19-2004, 01:46 PM
There is a lot of BS in the bilge over military medals...yes ..I got some...but please allow me to explain a few things....
First Vietnam was a very unpopular war...all news released in country was "colored" for moral purposes, medals were handed out like popcorn for "moral" purposes...
so....my first Purple heart.....background...the officers club in Saigon was located on one side by Tu Do street and at it's face by Hai Ba Trung...immediately behind the "O" club was the womens (nurses, female officers in general) quarters separated by a 10 foot high concrete block wall topped with broken glass imbedded in the concrete and topped by concertina wire...
If you were on the second deck "patio" and bar you could look over the fence directly into the womens quarters...and the ladies paraded around in undie shorts and with and without bras...they knew what they were doing (most went home with more money than some general with 20 years savings).
Late one evening a 2nd Looie was being whistled at by a couple of these ladies and..drunk as a skunk...decided to walk the top of the fence and enter the ladies quarters....he didn't make it..and the only thing that saved his life was the fact he was so drunk. It took over two hours to cut him out of the wire during which time he almost bled to death from the razor wire cuts...then he was transferred to the hospital.
Two days later we were making a low level run near Dalat and got a wee bit too slow and low to the ground. Two of the most worthless things in this life are runway behind you and altitude above you...we got plastered trying to provide cover for some dudes running like hell....they wuz outnumbered about a hundred to one...when I felt a shart prick in the right leg...and it didn't seem to work and I thought it wuz a helluva time for the rudder not to work...
Anyway..I was lucky as the round went through the leg just above the knee and about a half inch under the skin and out...very little bleeding...
as it so happens I ended up in the same ward with this second Looie who moaned and groaned all day and all night. I wanted out but they keeps you a minimum of three days to make sure there's no infection. On the day I was to be released a General comes through the ward and was followed by a Captain with a sizeable box..he would stop by, shake hands and hand out purple hearts. When he got down to my end of the swamp he had one medal left...and he said.."Son, this man looks a lot worse off than you and I only have one medal left. Do you mind if we give it to him". I said No, Sir...probably with a smirk. Then he left and the Captain was taking notes and all pertinent info of each of the guys for the award paperwork..
This is a true story....and not the last of such incidents. I have seen medals awarded for drunks driving jeeps into the bay, medals pinned on numerous drug overdose cases etc..."because we don't want the family to know how they really died"....
and then there's the tale of my next two...I thought wuz funny and almost embarrassed..but it hurt too much...

Donn
08-19-2004, 01:54 PM
:D The IP's used to sell them for one dollah!

km gresham
08-19-2004, 02:11 PM
:D I'm sure lots of medals were awarded in this manner. It doesn't mar the value of those earned by brave men in brave service, but they do make good tellin'. Sometimes they get it right and sometimes they get it wrong. :D

John of Phoenix
08-19-2004, 02:34 PM
Yea, medals are funny things. I got a Bronze Star for something I thought was pretty trivial and an ass chewing for somthing lots of guys thought was worth a Distinguished Flying Cross. I did get my Purple Heart fair and square though. Got a bit of shrapnel still floating around in the in the elbow.

Ian Wright
08-19-2004, 03:04 PM
Oh goody! War stories!
In 1964 in Aden/South Yemen/Radfan Mountains I was put "in charge" of a truck full of assorted squadies for the 11 hour trip from the coast to Thimir in the hills. First trip for all of us.
We were told exactly what to do in the event of an ambush,,,,,, ie, get off the truck, find a large rock and get it 'twixt the gun and your body, see?
We got "ambushed" by one, two max, local tribespersons at long range.
Truck stops, we all bale out, I trip, fall over, and my Stirling SM gun somehow went of,,,,,, a whole mag full. Negligent discharge of a firearm was worth getting busted at minimum and a year in gaol maximum.
Fortunately my truck load of squaddies saw me shooting so they shot also.
Two days later I got an official Brigadier's commendation for "bringing my section into action with great despatch". smile.gif

IanW

paladin
08-19-2004, 03:12 PM
dawgonnitt Ian...I've tried your e-mail several times and it duzzint work...and the package I sent wuz returned...now I gotta go get fresh batteries 'cause these died of old age..... tongue.gif

Ian Wright
08-20-2004, 04:58 AM
Originally posted by paladin:
dawgonnitt Ian...I've tried your e-mail several times and it duzzint work tongue.gif My last e-mail account died of spam overdose and, what with sailing all summer I haven't got the new one running yet,,,,,,,,,,but I will soon.

IanW

cs
08-20-2004, 06:36 AM
Well I ain't got no good stories on how I got my medals and I've got a handful, but nothing greater than an Army Accomadation Medal. I've got all the campaign medals and even have the Air Force Expert medal along with a handful of state awards. I don't wear my Class A uniforms and so I really don't worry about them. I bring them home and put them in a drawer.

Whenever we get activated it seems that quite a few bronze stars are handed out, but unless you are in Headquarters Battery your chances of getting one is real slim. Us plain jane gun bunnies get our satisfaction from rockets downrange and not parrading across a stage to recieve an over-inflated award.

I'll quit here, before I start sounding like I'm bitter, but I have seen so many worthless pieces of crap (Captain's driver) get bronze stars while those of whose who work our buts off get squat.

Chad

km gresham
08-20-2004, 06:44 AM
It's the way of the world, Chad! In business it's called "having a sponsor" to get you the great reviews and the promotions. Less to do with good work than somebody willing to tell people who matter that you do good work!

It's a matter of being in the right place at the right time and writing a glowing report of the action. Start writing, fella! You'll be loaded up with medals so fast you won't be able to stand up under the weight. :D

huisjen
08-20-2004, 07:55 AM
The most decorated man on my AOR in Desert Storm was our First Class Postal Clerk. No heroics or injury. He just worked his ass off. The distinguished unit comendation we all got was largely his doing.

Dan

paladin
08-20-2004, 08:37 AM
yup...got one of those too...done forgot about it...along with all the tin the ARVN's passed out...mainly for making sure they had lotsa gas and other items they could black market....we were part of two 5 man teams that penetrated into North Vietnam on an intelligence gambit and returned "without incident or accident"...which means we wuz sneaky enough to get in and out without firing a shot and getting ourselves KIA...mine would've been in the heiny ' ;) cause in those days I COULD RUN LIKE HELL!

Ken Hutchins
08-20-2004, 08:43 AM
Kerry medals (http://www.sacredcowburgers.com/leftovers/showpics.cgi?kerrys_first_aid_kit)

paladin
08-20-2004, 09:16 AM
and a couple of them EXPERT gun shooter medals for rifle and pistol.........(didja know a pencil makes .30 caliber holes?)....

LeeG
08-20-2004, 09:19 AM
In 1969 I started ninth grade, got to cast aluminum in metal shop, operate a lathe,,,folks got divorced,,no medals, San Pedro, Ca.

paladin
08-20-2004, 09:59 AM
Lee...thank your lucky stars....Vietnam wuz weeks and weeks and months and months of nauseating heat, bugs, rain and general boredom punctuated by a few moments of STARK TERROR.....

Donn
08-20-2004, 10:14 AM
"Vietnam wuz weeks and weeks and months and months of nauseating heat, bugs, rain and general boredom punctuated by a few moments of STARK TERROR..... " But the food made up for it. :D

paladin
08-20-2004, 10:24 AM
FOOD.....don't get me started....In 1964 I was posted as a weenie in charge of a guard detail on the docks at Nha Trang where the ships were offloading munitions and other cargo....the delivered "cuisine" to our detail of course involved those dubious snacks known as C-RATS....probably because the local rats were the size of a fat dachshund and were the only critters in existance that could eat the things and actually seemed to have a smile on their faces...anywhooo.....I wuz sitting on a pile of ammo cans, opened the rats er uh rations....and opened the mystery meat and chocolate...only later did I pick up the cigarettes to toss to one of the detail that I noticed they wuz Lucky Strikes.....with a GREEN emblem.. Now I seem to remember that Luckies had a BIG ad campaign in the early to mid '40s whan they switched to a RED emblem 'cause the green dyes were needed for uniforms and green army paint.....20 PLUS YEAR OLD C-RATS......THEY HAD TO HAVE A WAR TO GET RID OF THE OLD FOOD AND AMMO! :rolleyes:

Donn
08-20-2004, 10:33 AM
We got a couple of skids of beer that had been warehoused since Korea. Almost all flat, but we drank it anyway. :eek:

Wild Dingo
08-20-2004, 11:25 AM
Come on fellas dont stop here!!

What with Donns Veitnam era music and Chucks war stories and if all our other vets and hippys peaceniks and antiwar activists from that era joined in we could drown out all the political psydo important c&p in the forum!!! So dont stop!!

LeeG
08-20-2004, 11:45 AM
1969,,dad had acquired some motorcycles before moving out while my brother was becoming a kick ass 420 dinghy sailor. I was starting to bicycle all over LA,,it doesn't stop, LA does't end.
the war was on tv, I saw sunsets over Catalina every night, imagined the blast effects of a 1,5,25 MT blast on Catalina. Didn't know anyone in the services. A few friends weren't careful mixing pyrotechnic materials but they kept all their digits.