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Kev Smyth
09-22-2004, 07:48 PM
Read the article, then vote. Is it racism, ageism, or just a generational thing? This stuff drives me nuts- someone trying to make a mountain out of nothing, let alone a mole hill. As you can tell, I vote for "a generational thing." From Reuters

Thursday September 23, 2:06 AM
All-White High School Reunion Saddens Some

The ballroom is decorated with floor-to-ceiling paintings of shiny soda fountains, classic cars and the old store windows downtown. A stoop juts out from a rendering of the high school facade, so graduates can sit and talk _ just like in the old days.

And just like in the old days, not everyone in town is invited.

The reunion Saturday is only for those who graduated from Washington High School before it opened its doors to black students in the fall of 1969.

Some black leaders say the all-white reunion is sad and painful evidence that 50 years after the U.S. Supreme Court outlawed school segregation, some things have not changed all that much in this community on the Eastern Shore of the Chesapeake Bay.

"It's just as divided as it's ever been," said Leon Johnson, a black political activist who worked behind the scenes in Somerset County in 1960s. "The old folks did a good job of teaching the young ones, of teaching them the old system."

Organizers call the reunion a "Grand Homecoming" for graduates from the 1940s, '50s and '60s. The event, last held in 1999, draws about 700 alumni. It is independently organized and is not affiliated with the public school system.

Mickey Wigglesworth, a retired banker and 1957 graduate who has spent the past year organizing the event at the Somerset County Civic Center, said there was no intent to exclude blacks.

Instead, he said, it is a gathering of students from three decades who share music and culture from the era of sock hops and jukeboxes. "This would have no appeal to them," he said of the post-1969 grads.

The integrated post-1969 classes at Washington High hold their own reunions periodically, but they are smaller and are not promoted as community events. The Grand Homecoming, by contrast, gets a weekly mention on the front of the county newspaper's style section, under old photos of the boys' basketball teams and girls' softball teams. A colorful flier posted downtown asks Washington High graduates up to 1969 to "Travel back in time to those good, old years."

"We're still a divided county," said Kirkland Hall, a former president of the county's NAACP chapter and a 1969 graduate of Princess Anne's black high school, Somerset High. Of the county's 25,000 residents, 41 percent are black.

The Supreme Court's decision in Brown v. Board of Education came down in 1954, but it was another 15 years before any schools in Somerset County integrated.

The 1960s saw fierce, sometimes violent, resistance to integration in restaurants and in public facilities across the Eastern Shore. Fiery riots broke out in the town of Cambridge in 1963. In 1964, students at the University of Maryland, Eastern Shore campus in Princess Anne _ then known as the all-black Maryland State College _ were driven back with firehoses when they marched into town to protest segregation.

Princess Anne, the site of Maryland's last lynching in 1933, did not integrate any public buildings until 1964. Not until 1968 did any white schools on the Eastern Shore open to black students.

"It would be nice if the class of 1969 of both schools would have a reunion. We might have something in common," Hall said, adding after a pause: "I don't think too many people would be up to the idea."

Hall's friends from Somerset High have urged him to organize an all-black reunion that could rival the Grand Homecoming in size. But Hall said: "I don't think that's the way to go."

H. DeWayne Whittington, a 1948 graduate of what was then called Crisfield Colored High School, eventually became the first black superintendent of Somerset County schools, in 1988. He won a lawsuit against the county four years later when it did not renew his contract, and the system was forced to name a school for him.

Whittington said he is less irritated by the Grand Homecomings than he is by the distribution of scholarship money raised at the event. A total of $9,500 has been awarded in 19 scholarships, but only to children of alumni who graduated before integration.

Whittington has helped organize relatively small, multiyear reunions that raise $3,000 annually in scholarships for the children of black alumni. "It came to that point," he said, "because blacks found that out and said, `Let's try to do something for our kids.'"

The separate reunions are a symptom of a lack of black political leadership in the county, Whittington said. No black politicians have pressed for a stop to the practice.

Blacks held few public offices on the Eastern Shore before Hall sued the state in 1993 to keep out-of-town property owners from voting in municipal elections. It was not until 1999 that a black politician was elected to the state Legislature from the Eastern Shore.

Of the racial divide, Hall said: "It's one of those things I've been fighting so long, I'm just tired."

JimD
09-22-2004, 07:52 PM
If it was a renunion for the 40s, 50s, and 60s that would include 1969. The 69ers should have been invited. They did not have to attend if it did not appeal to them. Sounds kinda racist to me.

alteran
09-22-2004, 07:54 PM
I read this earlier today and thought about posting it. I will be very interested in the responses.Have to get out some customer work now and appointments tommorrow so I will comment later.

Joe (SoCal)
09-22-2004, 07:57 PM
Mickey Wigglesworth, a retired banker and 1957 graduate who has spent the past year organizing the event

Mickey Wigglesworth :D
Mickey Wigglesworth :D :D :D :D :D :D

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Haaaaaa haaaaaaaa

That cracker is so lucky he graduated before black students could make fun of him LOL

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Haaaaaa haaaaaaaa

Kev Smyth
09-22-2004, 07:59 PM
Opps- you're right if the class actually entered in 1969.

The way I read it I thought the decision to integrate was 1969, but not the class. :confused:

If you're right, it would be racist. And silly. It sounds like the area has a history of unusually high racial tensions. Not being particularly focused on race as an important delineation, I don't get it. The NW is very different from other parts of the country with regard to racial tensions- there isn't much, end of story.

LeeG
09-22-2004, 07:59 PM
this stuff drives you nuts?
I shouldn't vote then.

Kev Smyth
09-22-2004, 08:01 PM
Hey, joey!! I gather the closing went well, ya got the check, and are having a celebratory fifth of burbon! :D

Should be a good night! ;)

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Joe (SoCal)
09-22-2004, 08:05 PM
#(^& You Conrad-I-Was ™

:D :D :D Ya think Teresa Heinz Kerry could get away with that?

Kev Smyth
09-22-2004, 08:06 PM
Yup, the first black class entered in the Fall of 1969 (class of 1970), so I'll stand by my original vote- no racism, a generational thing.

Kev Smyth
09-22-2004, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson ):
#(^& You Conrad-I-Was ™

:D :D :D Ya think Teresa Heinz Kerry could get away with that?Sure, she's an "African American." :rolleyes: tongue.gif

Peter Malcolm Jardine
09-22-2004, 08:10 PM
Are you telling me that no black students were allowed in this school before 1970? :confused: :confused:

Joe (SoCal)
09-22-2004, 08:12 PM
**** you Conrad-I-was™ :mad:

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Kev Smyth
09-22-2004, 08:14 PM
"**** you Conrad-I-was™ :mad: "

"Keep drinking, joey- the whole world's watching! ;) Careful with the little red guys!

By the way, aside from the insults, do you have a comment on the topic of the thread?

[ 09-22-2004, 09:25 PM: Message edited by: Kev Smyth ]

Bruce Hooke
09-22-2004, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by Peter Malcolm Jardine:
Are you telling me that no black students were allowed in this school before 1970? :confused: :confused: That's right. Pretty sad, eh?

Joe (SoCal)
09-22-2004, 08:19 PM
Bwaaaa ha ha :D :D :D you fell for it

I only typed (****) Upper case 8 asterisk and added a silly little :mad: Hahahah you are so predictable

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha

So how many times did you beat your wife today?

:D :D :D

Kev Smyth
09-22-2004, 08:23 PM
Twice- once for having her stupid cat run up a $1400 vet bill, and once for letting my coffee get cold. :eek: :D

Now that we have that out of the way, any comment on the thread topic? smile.gif

(edited 'cause I can't spell :rolleyes: )

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Bruce Hooke
09-22-2004, 08:26 PM
I'm not going to vote without a lot more information than one article, but it does look awfully suspicious to me. Something tells me that the graduates from the late 60's would have a lot more in common with the graduates of the early 70's than they would with the graduates of the 40's! What would make more sense to me, and also give the thing more longevity, would be to make it party for everyone who graduated from the school more than 30 years ago. That way it would continue to be a chance for the "old-timers" to get together and hobnob, without creating the racial stir and without basically dooming the whole thing once the current participants get too old or are no longer around.

That idea aside, I do have to wonder why nobody is apparently organizing gatherings of the more recent classes. After all, there's a lot of years between 1969 and now!

Peter Malcolm Jardine
09-22-2004, 08:30 PM
My only comment: :eek: :( :( :(

Kev Smyth
09-22-2004, 08:30 PM
Good point, Bruce- I thought the same thing about the late fifties being more of a natural break point, but maybe the sixties revolution was slower to come to this area. We have cities in Eastern Washington that look/feel at lot like they got stuck in 1962. Could be similar?

Looks like the concept of integration was a bit behind, so...?

LeeG
09-22-2004, 08:34 PM
so you are lonely tonight?

Joe (SoCal)
09-22-2004, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by Kev Smyth:
Twice- once for having her stupid cat run up a $1400 vet bill, and once for letting my coffee get cold.

(edited 'cause I can't spell :rolleyes: )Hey I cant spell and I do not have a 150 IQ
But can you READ ??


Originally posted by Kev Smyth:
Oh yeah- the old "have you stopped beating the wife?" is a classic JOKE that has no right answer, being a trap. That's why it's funny. No one but a humorless liberal takes it seriously. And smarter conservatives know the only correct response is to ignore it. Like I said, you're young, and a bit naive..


Originally posted by Ironmule:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by ljb5:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Kev Smyth:
But thanks for the game. I'll put it down as a "win" in my column.Can you explain why you think you won?</font>[/QUOTE]You do it so often to others, I'm amazed you can't recognize the tactic when it's used on you. :rolleyes: Conrad trolled you into losing your temper and repeatedly answering rather stupid posts. :eek:

He's ROTFLHAO at your humorless response to his joke.
Go Conrad

Jeff Smith</font>[/QUOTE]Jeff I guess Conrad-I-Was™ did not get the memo

Bwaaaaaa ha ha

I WIN
I WIN
I WIN
Conrad-I-Was™ GOES DOWN !!!!!!

Kev Smyth
09-22-2004, 09:20 PM
I'm glad you're having fun- I'll help when I can! If I ignored you, you'd go away. Wouldn't want that! ;)

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alteran
09-22-2004, 09:28 PM
"Hey I cant spell and I do not have a 150 IQ"

Says Joe. For once I agree with you Joe.
You can't spell. Can't write your numbers correctly either. You meant "I do not have a 15 IQ".

I agree, you don't.

Joe (SoCal)
09-22-2004, 10:23 PM
Ohh what Al you got me by ONE IQ point lol Bwaaaaa haaaaaaa ha ha

Thats all ya got man we all but called you a lier in Kevs last thread and thats all you got ONE IQ point man you are lame.

Ha ha

alteran
09-22-2004, 10:33 PM
Bwaaaaa haaaaaaa ha ha

Ya Folla

I fear no man.

tm

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Buy a dictionary Joe Foster [loser of cold spring] your cutesy cliches need updating.

Joe (SoCal)
09-22-2004, 11:11 PM
Its I fear no man™ learn superscript idiot :D
Have ya figured out how to post photos yet dummy
;)

Isn't it about time for you to USE your son yet?

[ 09-23-2004, 12:14 AM: Message edited by: Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson ) ]

Joe (SoCal)
09-22-2004, 11:17 PM
It has happened before :D ;)

Edited cause Kev deleted his post :rolleyes:

But now it is below this one weird smile.gif

[ 09-23-2004, 01:32 AM: Message edited by: Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson ) ]

Kev Smyth
09-22-2004, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson ):
Its I fear no man™ learn superscript idiot :D
Have ya figured out how to post photos yet dummy
;)

Isn't it about time for you to USE your son yet?Hey joey- stop calling people names and trashing the thread- you'll get Kev booted off the forum!

alteran
09-22-2004, 11:28 PM
Originally posted by Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson ):
Its I fear no man™ learn superscript idiot :D
Have ya figured out how to post photos yet dummy
;)

Isn't it about time for you to USE your son yet?Alcoholics Anonymous
(845) 534-8525
43 Clinton St
Cornwall, NY 12518

Joe (SoCal)
09-23-2004, 12:21 AM
Cornwall is across the river buy a map genius. :rolleyes:
There is a meeting over at St. Mary's in Cold Spring. But you sound like you might need it more than me at least grief or anger counseling :D Hows it going since the last time you USED your son to make a point remember this or are you still in denial ?


Originally posted by alteran:
Perhaps you might want to recall taunting me about my deceased son. Insinuating that he was a drunk.

Joe Foster, aka "the loser from Cold Spring"Sad so sad you would bring that up to make a point :( :(

TimH
09-23-2004, 01:12 AM
Originally posted by Kev Smyth:

Whittington said he is less irritated by the Grand Homecomings than he is by the distribution of scholarship money raised at the event. A total of $9,500 has been awarded in 19 scholarships, but only to children of alumni who graduated before integration.

Do you know how many scholarships there are for coloreds that are not available to whites?!?! Reverse discrimination is what *really* pisses me off! :mad:

bottompaint
09-23-2004, 10:40 AM
Joe....your cruelty to your wife and others deminishes my enjoyment of the WoodenBoat Forum. I am sending Scot a link to this thread.

Anyone else that is insulted by this thread, needs to do the same.

Joe (SoCal)
09-23-2004, 11:00 AM
Originally posted by bottompaint:
Joe....your cruelty to your wife and others deminishes my enjoyment of the WoodenBoat Forum. I am sending Scot a link to this thread.

Anyone else that is insulted by this thread, needs to do the same.Go ahead bottom paint
as for my cruelty to my wife :D Bwaaaaaaa ha ha :D


Originally posted by Kev Smyth:
Oh yeah- the old "have you stopped beating the wife?" is a classic JOKE that has no right answer, being a trap. That's why it's funny. No one but a humorless liberal takes it seriously. And smarter conservatives know the only correct response is to ignore it. Like I said, you're young, and a bit naive.. ;)

By the way- are you still beating your wife? :eek: :D I guess you didnt get the memo :rolleyes:

km gresham
09-23-2004, 11:17 AM
Put me in the "I don't care" column. For Pete's sake, let 'em have their party. There are some hurricanes brewing, a national election on the horizon, a war going on. I just don't have the least interest in who is insulted by another's celebration.

I don't see the big deal, now that schools are splitting up graduations and proms based on race and sexual preference. :rolleyes: Why not split up reunions too? Why not just have these things for each individual? That could be fun! The class of 2004 will be having Proms from January until June for each Junior and Senior. Then we will begin our individual graduation ceremonies! :D

Johnny Anderson's prom will be Monday, January 6th at 5:00 AM. Followed by Julie Antley's prom at 5:30 AM. Followed by Keisha Aston's Prom at 6:00 AM ....

Doesn't that sound like fun?! :D

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Kev Smyth
09-23-2004, 11:38 AM
Karen, shame on you, you heartless cynic!! :D People's self images are suffering, their 5 minutes in the lime-light being denied! How can you worry about hurricanes at a time like this? ;)

km gresham
09-23-2004, 11:40 AM
:D Just insensitive, I guess.