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  • paladin
    Senior Senior Member
    • Dec 2000
    • 26475
    #1

    Beware..War...

    Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the
    citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a
    double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it
    narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever
    pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the
    leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry.
    Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by
    patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and
    gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am
    Caesar."

    -- Julius Caesar
    Wakan Tanka Kici Un
    ..a bad day sailing is a heckuva lot better than the best day at work.....
    Fighting Illegal immigration since 1492....
    Live your life so that whenever you lose, you're ahead."
    "If you live life right, death is a joke as far as fear is concerned."
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    • LeeG
      Senior Member
      • May 2002
      • 73004
      #2
      But we must protect ourselves because they hate our freedom. right?

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        • meerkat
          Senior Member #4667
          • Feb 2002
          • 21774
          #3
          Seems like Dubya and Ashcroft and the Republican party don't like our freedom either. When you create a state security organization, you end up without security and eventually without a state.
          If you don't think for yourself, someone else will do it for you!

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            • Greg H.
              Senior Member
              • May 1999
              • 1684
              #4
              Dr. Strangebush

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                • Alan D. Hyde
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2000
                  • 7338
                  #5
                  Wasn't this posted before?

                  I don't think it sounds at all like Caesar.

                  It's authenticity is dubious, at best.

                  Alan

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                    • Bruce Taylor
                      Eardstapa
                      • Aug 2000
                      • 9225
                      #6
                      Wasn't this posted before?
                      http://media5.hypernet.com/cgi-bin/U...=5&t=005887&p=

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                        • kwmcclure
                          VP of Other Things
                          • Feb 2001
                          • 2712
                          #7
                          Regardless of level of authenticity, this does have the stink of unwelcome truth.

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                            • paladinsfo
                              Senior Senior Member
                              • Dec 2000
                              • 26475
                              #8
                              When I posted this It was not as an unvarnished quote from Julius but something with a ring of truism however misqouted......I am starting to feel a bit nervous about much of the so called "protections" that are being forced upon us.....whether absolutely required or not.....
                              Wakan Tanka Kici Un
                              ..a bad day sailing is a heckuva lot better than the best day at work.....
                              Fighting Illegal immigration since 1492....
                              Live your life so that whenever you lose, you're ahead."
                              "If you live life right, death is a joke as far as fear is concerned."

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                                • jack grebe
                                  Misunderstood
                                  • Feb 2001
                                  • 13530
                                  #9
                                  Re: Beware..War...

                                  Originally posted by paladin
                                  Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the
                                  citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a
                                  double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it
                                  narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever
                                  pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the
                                  leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry.
                                  Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by
                                  patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and
                                  gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am
                                  Caesar."

                                  -- Julius Caesar
                                  Good quote Chuck....... Where ever you are.........
                                  Originally posted by George Jung
                                  Don't under-estimate Jack. He's purty damned talented

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                                    • Phillip Allen
                                      new member
                                      • May 2002
                                      • 63618
                                      #10
                                      Re: Beware..War...

                                      Originally posted by jack grebe
                                      Good quote Chuck....... Where ever you are.........
                                      it is a good quote

                                      ... and it applies to some of the shenanigans taking place in our south right now and fanned on by south haters right here
                                      The doctrine of nonresistance against arbitrary power, and oppression, is absurd, slavish, and destructive of the good and happiness of mankind.
                                      Personal failures are too important to be trusted to others.

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                                        • TomF
                                          Recalcitrant Heretic
                                          • Jun 2003
                                          • 51025
                                          #11
                                          Re: Beware..War...

                                          Chuck, you are missed. I hope and pray that you are enjoying those fair winds and following seas.

                                          There is more authenticity to an old soldier's warnings about war than pretty much anyone else's.
                                          If I use the word "God," I sure don't mean an old man in the sky who just loves the occasional goat sacrifice. - Anne Lamott

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                                            • skaraborgcraft
                                              Banned
                                              • Jan 2010
                                              • 12824
                                              #12
                                              Re: Beware..War...

                                              Originally posted by TomF

                                              There is more authenticity to an old soldier's warnings about war than pretty much anyone else's.
                                              Nuff said.....

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                                                • jack grebe
                                                  Misunderstood
                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                  • 13530
                                                  #13
                                                  Re: Beware..War...

                                                  Originally posted by TomF
                                                  Chuck, you are missed. I hope and pray that you are enjoying those fair winds and following seas.

                                                  +++

                                                  He truly was one of the best.
                                                  Originally posted by George Jung
                                                  Don't under-estimate Jack. He's purty damned talented

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                                                    • Spin_Drift
                                                      LPBC member
                                                      • Jul 2006
                                                      • 19733
                                                      #14
                                                      Re: Beware..War...

                                                      Oh, dear Chuckie, you were the best. Your wisdom and spirit of play is sorely missed.

                                                      Sigh...
                                                      Choose wisely -Treat kindly...
                                                      A secret to a good marriage is to have a quick mind and a slow mouth...
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                                                      S/V ORCA 38' Herreshoff Ketch

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                                                        • Jim Mahan
                                                          me 𑀩 thinking
                                                          • Mar 2006
                                                          • 11909
                                                          #15
                                                          Re: Beware..War...

                                                          I wonder how Chuckie felt about spam?

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