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paladin
11-24-2002, 10:12 AM
Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the
citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a
double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it
narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever
pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the
leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry.
Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by
patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and
gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am
Caesar."

-- Julius Caesar

LeeG
11-24-2002, 11:19 AM
But we must protect ourselves because they hate our freedom. right?

Meerkat
11-24-2002, 03:11 PM
Seems like Dubya and Ashcroft and the Republican party don't like our freedom either. When you create a state security organization, you end up without security and eventually without a state.

Greg H
11-24-2002, 03:29 PM
Dr. Strangebush

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid40/p95b7ae335ac7dbc74bc57474b2829c9e/fd0393fc.jpg

Alan D. Hyde
11-25-2002, 09:59 AM
Wasn't this posted before?

I don't think it sounds at all like Caesar.

It's authenticity is dubious, at best.

Alan

Bruce Taylor
11-25-2002, 11:34 AM
Wasn't this posted before?http://media5.hypernet.com/cgi-bin/UBB/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=5&t=005887&p=

ken mcclure
11-25-2002, 05:19 PM
Regardless of level of authenticity, this does have the stink of unwelcome truth.

paladin
11-25-2002, 08:38 PM
When I posted this It was not as an unvarnished quote from Julius but something with a ring of truism however misqouted......I am starting to feel a bit nervous about much of the so called "protections" that are being forced upon us.....whether absolutely required or not.....

jack grebe
08-21-2017, 02:41 AM
Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the
citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a
double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it
narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever
pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the
leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry.
Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by
patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and
gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am
Caesar."

-- Julius Caesar

Good quote Chuck....... Where ever you are.........

Phillip Allen
08-21-2017, 04:44 AM
Good quote Chuck....... Where ever you are.........

it is a good quote

... and it applies to some of the shenanigans taking place in our south right now and fanned on by south haters right here

TomF
08-21-2017, 05:48 AM
Chuck, you are missed. I hope and pray that you are enjoying those fair winds and following seas.

There is more authenticity to an old soldier's warnings about war than pretty much anyone else's.

skaraborgcraft
08-21-2017, 05:56 AM
There is more authenticity to an old soldier's warnings about war than pretty much anyone else's.

Nuff said.....

jack grebe
08-21-2017, 06:03 AM
Chuck, you are missed. I hope and pray that you are enjoying those fair winds and following seas.




+++

He truly was one of the best.

Spin_Drift
08-21-2017, 06:16 AM
Oh, dear Chuckie, you were the best. Your wisdom and spirit of play is sorely missed.

Sigh...

Jim Mahan
08-21-2017, 06:26 AM
I wonder how Chuckie felt about spam?

jack grebe
08-21-2017, 08:21 AM
Please, let's not trash a paladin thread..... He's not making anymore......

Jim Mahan
08-21-2017, 10:29 AM
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Please, let's not trash a paladin thread..... He's not making anymore......

How about let's not use Paladin's fifteen year old thread to spam the bilge?

amish rob
08-21-2017, 10:31 AM
How about let's not use Paladin's fifteen year old thread to spam the bilge?
We gotta flush those dumb pictures and stories and thoughtful contributions, eh?

Peace,
Doing My Part, Yo

Rum_Pirate
08-21-2017, 10:41 AM
OK.

I have deleted all my posts to this thread.

In one hour, I will delete this one.

Those of you who complained about my posts on this thread may now delete those complaints.


OK.

jack grebe
08-21-2017, 11:00 AM
Please, let's not trash a paladin thread..... He's not making anymore......

Do you consider this a complaint?

Jim Bow
08-21-2017, 12:48 PM
Snopes:
As Ralph Keyes explains in Nice Guys Finish Seventh, his compendium of misattributed and false quotes, “Famous dead people make excellent commentators on current events.” The dead do not reappear to challenge words assigned to them, an attribute much prized by those looking for convenient spokesmen to lend authority to their convictions. This “quote” called for a strong and respected military leader and statesman, hence Caesar was resurrected to give it voice.

mmd
08-21-2017, 12:55 PM
I'll raise a glass in toast to Paladin. "Here's to you, Paladin, wherever you are. I enjoyed and appreciated our many conversations, and appreciate the gifts you sent my way. I am sorry that I was not able to properly or personally thank you. Fair winds, good sir."

hawkeye54
08-21-2017, 02:24 PM
+1, Michael