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flatbottom
10-16-2004, 12:08 PM
I am putting in a water filtration system only part left is the wiring for the chlorine injector pump. My well has a 220v pump, I need 110v for the injector pump. Is there any reason that I can't use one hot wire and the common ground of the 220 supplied to the pump to supply 110v to the injector pump?

Kev Smyth
10-16-2004, 12:12 PM
It should be fine- we just went through this with an air compressor, 220v motor, 110v switch gear.

You have to establish a second, separate ground circuit for the 120v side though. Wear your rubber gloves!!

huisjen
10-16-2004, 12:19 PM
Electric clothes dryers often run the heating element on both sides of the 220V plug, while running the motor to tumble things on only one side, and that works.

Dan

Edit: Don't worry about rubber gloves. De-Energize the Freaking Circuit!!!

[ 10-16-2004, 01:20 PM: Message edited by: huisjen ]

flatbottom
10-16-2004, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by Kev Smyth:
It should be fine- we just went through this with an air compressor, 220v motor, 110v switch gear.

You have to establish a second, separate ground circuit for the 120v side though. Wear your rubber gloves!!Thanks a bunch! The separate ground is no problem since the breaker panel is only 3 feet away.

[ 10-16-2004, 01:21 PM: Message edited by: flatbottom ]

imported_Dutch
10-16-2004, 12:24 PM
what is the chlorine for?

paladin
10-16-2004, 01:36 PM
....visitors.....after three days......

flatbottom
10-16-2004, 02:04 PM
success it works!

The vistors I had was coliform. My wife has the well tested yearly. this year the test came back with a high coliform count. most coliform humans are immune to , however some such as e-coli we are not immune to. When the count is high the odds of getting bad bacteria gets higher. Chlorine kills the bacteria

I was on a 10 day bike trip in Canada when this took place so she panicked and had a well driller look at it, who ran up a $1000 bill and basically did nothing more than pour clorox down the well and tell her what a great geologist he is. His solution was to sell us about $3200 worth of filtration equipment.

Fortunately she waited till I got back and could look at his estimate. I called up my local plumbing supply and priced out the same equipment and it came to $913.57 with tax.

I started this morning at 7:30 and had everything but the electrical done before noon. basically the well guy was going to charge us $2200 for 4 hours labor. $550 bucks an hour and they say lawyers are crooks??

[ 10-16-2004, 03:06 PM: Message edited by: flatbottom ]

paladin
10-16-2004, 02:55 PM
..I thought we wuz gonna shoot all the lawyers a while back......

imported_Dutch
10-16-2004, 03:37 PM
how the heck are you getting coliform bacteria in your well water? something must be wrong. have you attemptted to fix the problem?

i dont think i would be relying on a home chlorinator to make my drinking water safe or to take a bath in either

Bruce G
10-16-2004, 04:01 PM
my advice is not to pee on the electrical fence!!! :eek: :eek:

Good luck with it, congrats that it works!

flatbottom
10-16-2004, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by Dutch:
how the heck are you getting coliform bacteria in your well water? something must be wrong. have you attemptted to fix the problem?

i dont think i would be relying on a home chlorinator to make my drinking water safe or to take a bath in eitherColiform bacteria exists naturally in the ground, we got a concentration mostly because of excessive rain this year. Much of the soil here is clay which makes a poor filter and the bed rock is shale which will harbor coliform also Our well is 287 feet deep.

A very small amount of chlorine gets injected into a 100 gallon retention tank each time the well pump turns on. After the water leaves the retention tank a big activated charcoal filter removes the chlorine. The water already tastes better and doesn't have the faint rotten egg smell that often comes from shale.

imported_Dutch
10-16-2004, 05:07 PM
i know that coliform bacterria xist naturally in the ground. there are animals taking dumps literally on every spot of the arth. that doesnt mean they should be present in the ground water of a well, espeacially one which is 287 feet deep.

is your well cased properly?

its your well and im sure you are aware of what the local water conditions are, but having some experience with wells, something doesnt sound right to me

i'd like to know how coliform bacteria are finding their way into a properly cased deep well

imported_Dutch
10-16-2004, 05:09 PM
rereading your post- clay makes a poor filter? what is better - sand?

flatbottom
10-16-2004, 06:21 PM
since i didn't trust the well drillers opinion I contacted the county health dept who collects data and keeps records on private wells. They also had the drilling report from my well when it was drilled in 1990. They said that sand is best because it the water spreads outin sand and slowly makes it's way down to the aquifer thus removing most of the coliform along the way .In clay once the water is past the 12"14" of top soil it enters channels or veins in the clay and delivers the water directly into the aquifer kind of like a pipe. the county said they have had a record number of reports concerning high levels of coliform from private wells this year
The well casing was checked for leaks and none were found. The Health Dept said the seal of the casing in the shale may be poor but it isn't worth the cost of redrilling since no one could guarantee that the new well would properly seal in the shale.

imported_Daniel
10-16-2004, 06:38 PM
You never know, the contamination could be coming from a long way away if you are on a large aquifer, an old abandoned well, etc. You might consider putting in an ultra violet light as well for secondary sterilization (should only cost you a couple hundred bucks), this way you have redundancy built into the system, making it much safer.