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Meerkat
01-25-2006, 09:03 PM
78% turnout!

Preliminary results:

58 seats for Fatah.
53 seats for Hamas.

Sounds like deadlock.

[ 01-25-2006, 09:09 PM: Message edited by: Meerkat ]

Donn
01-25-2006, 09:15 PM
Meerkat's pulling for Hamas. Power to the terrorists, eh?

Meerkat
01-26-2006, 12:23 AM
You really can be such a fool.

ingo
01-26-2006, 04:16 AM
Originally posted by Donn:
Meerkat's pulling for Hamas. Power to the terrorists, eh?It's democracy smile.gif

George.
01-26-2006, 08:33 AM
Hamas claims victory.

Democracy has arrived in the Middle East, and it ain't pretty. Iranian-backed Shiite parties in Iraq, Ahm-a-baddy in Iran... next, Egyptians will vote en masse for the Muslim Brotherhood, and Pakistan will elect bin Laden.

Donn
01-26-2006, 08:38 AM
And Brazil will sell ethanol and frozen poultry to all of them. tongue.gif

George.
01-26-2006, 08:40 AM
And none of them will attack us, even though we are free. tongue.gif

uncas
01-26-2006, 09:51 AM
Who the heck would want to attack Brazil? :rolleyes:

The US is a bigger target...although Brazil is a large country...

[ 01-26-2006, 09:54 AM: Message edited by: uncas ]

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
01-26-2006, 10:00 AM
Brazil is actually larger that the "Contiguous 48".

And Properly Alaska belongs to the Russians.

uncas
01-26-2006, 10:02 AM
And Properly Alaska belongs to the Russians.

Sorry they sold it...much as the French sold the Louisiana etc.
15 Million....Seward's folly....1868.

Pop..wise...sorry...Brazil is way down there...

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
01-26-2006, 10:04 AM
And what tool are you using to measure the wisdom of the population?

Keith Wilson
01-26-2006, 10:05 AM
The Russians? Nah, we bought it from 'em fair and square. The Russians stole it from those living there at the time, of course, but the Aleuts and Inuit had probably stolen it from someone else, and they from someone else before.

[ 01-26-2006, 10:06 AM: Message edited by: Keith Wilson ]

uncas
01-26-2006, 10:07 AM
?
I have no idea where you are going with this....Brazil has a huge land mass....I agree...
Its population is relatively small in comparison.to the US..Has nothing to do with wisdom of the population...
And why does Alaska rightfully belong to Russia?

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
01-26-2006, 10:09 AM
There we go - all the world's problems solved - a nice simple easy-to-understand framework for all of morality, ethics and law.
<CENTER>MIGHT IS RIGHT.</CENTER>

As practiced all over the planet.

Keith Wilson
01-26-2006, 10:15 AM
MIGHT IS RIGHT "Traditional values"

[ 01-26-2006, 10:21 AM: Message edited by: Keith Wilson ]

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
01-26-2006, 10:23 AM
Uncas - just light chain tugging.
But I've just googled for the population of Brazil - and its coming up with estimates on the close order of 180 million.
That's about twice as many as I would have guessed.

Oh Well - Live and Learn.

George.
01-26-2006, 10:29 AM
Originally posted by uncas:
Who the heck would want to attack Brazil? :rolleyes:

The US is a bigger target...although Brazil is a large country...But we have a smaller footprint... ;)

George.
01-26-2006, 11:48 AM
We are bickering as usual, but this is serious sh!t. A terrorist organization has been elected to power.


"Obviously, people were not happy with the status quo," Bush said.

"The people are demanding honest government. The people want services. They want to be able to raise their children in an environment in which they can get a decent education and they can find health care."

"It's a wake-up call to the leadership," Bush said, many of whom are holdovers from the days of the late Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat.
...
The situation leaves the Bush administration -- which vigorously backed democratic elections -- facing a Palestinian government led by an organization it has labeled a terrorist group.

Hamas leaders claimed the group had won a sweeping victory with between 68 and 72 seats in the 132-seat Palestinian Legislative Council.
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Acting Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said Israel could not accept a situation in which Hamas in its current configuration -- committed to the destruction of Israel -- was a part of the Palestinian Authority.

"I will not negotiate with a government that does not meet its most basic obligations -- to fight terrorism. We are prepared to assist the Palestinians and [Palestinian President Abbas] very much but they must meet their commitments," Olmert said, according to a statement released by his office.

The European Union, meanwhile, said it was prepared to work with any government -- to a point.

"We are prepared to work with any Palestinian government, if this government seeks peace, using peaceful means," said Benita Ferrero-Waldner, EU external relations commissioner.
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Hamas' military wing, Izzedine al Qassam, has carried out terrorist attacks against Israeli civilians as well as attacks against the Israeli military.

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
01-26-2006, 11:53 AM
It may be "Serious Sh!t" but it's hardly unusual.
Google for irgun "stern gang".

Almost always the government of an emergent nation is drawn from people who have been described as terrorists.

Andrew Craig-Bennett
01-26-2006, 12:21 PM
see also Kenyatta and the Mau Mau.

etc.

Keith Wilson
01-26-2006, 12:37 PM
Why does Hamas appeal to the Palestinians?
Because their opponents are not only extremely corrupt, but also ineffectual. The main cause is not anything the US is doing.

That wall is looking better all the time. Any chance Sharon will recover?

[ 01-26-2006, 12:39 PM: Message edited by: Keith Wilson ]

Meerkat
01-26-2006, 03:06 PM
How many terrorist organizations run health clinics and schools?

Keith Wilson
01-26-2006, 03:07 PM
At least one.

Meerkat
01-26-2006, 03:28 PM
The French, AFAIK, didn't even do that when they were under the domination of an occupying power in WW II. We called them "freedom fighters".

The UN mandate gave Palastine to the Palastinians, not a bunch of immigrant europeans with powerful friends and war guilt.