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stan v
03-20-2003, 08:16 AM
Because Dick Morris is correct. The only part I differ with him is in his statement that Clinton was the better president on the domestic front. How important to the domestic front is defense? This is a good read.

Bush Bears the Burden of War
By Dick Morris
FrontPageMagazine.com | March 20, 2003

His tie hung low around his shrunken neck like a necklace. His ears seemed larger as his face looked gaunt. Hair graying, his eyes burned with intensity and purpose as he addressed his nation announcing the war. The burden of the presidency seemed etched in the lines of his face. George W. Bush looks like he has aged ten years in the last twenty-seven months…and matured twenty years. Elected president, he has become a leader.

After 9-11, he responded to events. Now he transcends them. As this president faces the tasks imposed by history, he rises from its pages. Its time for us all to thank the Lord that we have this decisive man in office at this crucial time.

One comes to respect his intelligence and political skill, but more his clarity, his understanding of what is important and his focus on the values he carries in his soul. His wisdom is not the product of complexity or subtlety. It stems, instead, from the simplicity of his profound understanding of good and evil.

In the State of the Union speech, he spoke of his daily task of facing new terrorist threats and the hourly burden of responding. Now we watch in awe at the dignity with which he bears our burden.

Like a gyroscope he keeps his bearing, always rising above the coming horizon. He intuitively knows where he must lead like the needle of a compass shows us the north.

I don't agree with very much of his domestic program. It is too limited and based on an assumption of governmental inactivity that I do not share. I think that Bill Clinton was the better president up to the water's edge. But, on the critical aspect of his presidency, the war on terror, he is right on and has always been. He keeps his political balance as he maintains his internal ballast. His clarity of vision rises above that of his predecessor and his grasp of the requirements of history is deeper and more thorough.

Clinton always lamented that he was not in office during a time of overwhelming national emergency. He once told me that you needed a war to rise to top rank among presidents. Yet it is the bitter irony of his presidency that he had a war to fight, he just never realized it and never fought it.

Bush would be wasted in another era. His skills would not have been as finely developed as they have been under this challenge. We would never have truly known him. He likely would not have even come to know himself as well as he now has.

Some say Bush's diplomacy has failed. That's not true. He succeeded in conducting negotiations without letting his purity be corrupted or his vision dimmed. This is the ultimate success, not failure, in diplomacy.

Others say he has squandered the sympathy the world had for us after 9-11. Again the criticism is wide of the mark. He demanded their tears give way to resolution, their empathy to action, their victimhood to victory. He didn't dissipate global support. He mobilized it and those whose camaraderie was phony fell away.

Bush has not abused democracy, he has mobilized it. Nor has he shattered checks and balances, he has carried them into action. He is not overreaching the powers of his office, he is using them.

Roosevelt, Lincoln, and Churchill all looked different to contemporaries than they do to historians. FDR seemed to emerge as a wartime leader only after Pearl Harbor rescued him from a time of vacillation and indecision during the late 1930s. Lincoln appeared to be weak and unable to harness the moral issue of slavery to the task of winning the war. Churchill seemed an imperialist and an empire builder pining for war in a time of peace.

But history has a different view of all three.

Bush lives amid the ambivalence of democracy, but we are watching a Roosevelt, a Lincoln, or a Churchill in the making.

Mrleft8
03-20-2003, 08:19 AM
Closet pinko?

Rocky
03-20-2003, 08:32 AM
Good article about Bush's management style in the Atlantic. Governors tend to make good managers.

[ 03-20-2003, 08:42 AM: Message edited by: Rocky ]

Joe (SoCal)
03-20-2003, 08:37 AM
Just goes to show that its just as easy for Stan to CUT & PASTE liberal thoughts as it is for him to CUT & PASTE conservative thoughts. What's HARD for Stan is for him to post an ORIGINAL THOUGHT :rolleyes:

km gresham
03-20-2003, 08:39 AM
Gotta admit, clinton was the best at gettin the girls and dodging the little woman. ;)

huisjen
03-20-2003, 08:41 AM
Don't worry, Gerbil Boy. What you posted is what's known as a moderate position, rather than a liberal one. It assumes that actions taken are based on logical, rational, ethical decisions, and then focuses on Shrub's leadership and stature (which it also points out as somewhat automatic in time of war) rather than analysing those assumptions, so it's fairly persuasive.

On the other hand, it still doesn't analyse the assumption that this is the proper course of action.

In the Pacifism thread, Rocky made some good points about alternatives to the present war.


Well, let's see, we could have let the inspectors go in and finish the job, or

Embargoed the borders, or

Put out a hit on Saddam, or

Blown the hell out of his palaces, or

Cultivated some real spies who knew how to do the job, or

Given him a list of suspect facilities and tell him each one was gonna be hit unless he could prove it wasn't being used for war
production, or

Gone to the Iranians to see if they wanted to do something to him, Dan

stan v
03-20-2003, 08:52 AM
Heck Joe, it ain't so bad to post someone's thoughts that agree with mine, especially since he helped develope Clintonoid. Now, as to what I do know. I know how to start my car.

[ 03-20-2003, 08:53 AM: Message edited by: stan v ]

huisjen
03-20-2003, 08:55 AM
Sorry Joe. :D :D :D

Dan

Mr. Know It All
03-20-2003, 09:10 AM
Originally posted by km gresham:
Gotta admit, clinton was the best at gettin the girls and dodging the little woman. ;) ROTFLMAO :D Good one Karen.

Joe (SoCal)
03-20-2003, 09:10 AM
Originally posted by stan v:
Heck Joe, it ain't so bad to post someone's thoughts that agree with mine, especially since he helped develope Clintonoid. Now, as to what I do know. I know how to start my car.It's fine to occasionally pepper your post with supporting articles written by other people. But to ONLY post others writings and then sit back and go Yea that's what I'm talking about.

Oh and Stan, from what I hear you also know how to Turn On a Gerbil :D

Mr. Know It All
03-20-2003, 09:14 AM
Joe.......Stan is as original as they come. I don't think his problem is original thought, it's getting anyone to agree with him ,that's his problem. :D

stan v
03-20-2003, 09:18 AM
Originally posted by Mr. Know It All:
Joe.......Stan is as original as they come. I don't think his problem is original thought, it's getting anyone to agree with him ,that's his problem. :D I have so much fun trying. ;)