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km gresham
09-08-2004, 07:36 AM
The third anniversary of Sept. 11 is upon us. We remain at war -- and the media remain in denial.

How many times have you picked up a newspaper and read about terrorist attacks perpetrated not by Muslim terrorists, but by generic "militants" or "guerrillas" or "rebels" or, as Middle East scholar Daniel Pipes noted the Pakistan Times called them, "activists"?

Contrast the media whitewashing of our Islamofascist enemies with the press coverage of the Waco, Texas, siege in 1993 -- which constantly reminded us that David Koresh and his Branch Davidian followers were members of a "peculiar religious sect" (New York Times, March 3, 1993) and "a group of religious zealots with a known propensity for violence" (Washington Post, March 2, 1993) who were steeped in a "culture of Christian extremism" (San Francisco Chronicle, April 20, 1993).

A Nexis search of the terms "Branch Davidian" and "religious" and "cult" in The New York Times for the year 1993 yielded 151 hits. The vast majority of these references were in headlines and news articles, as opposed to editorials, letters or book reviews. A Nexis search of the terms "al Qaeda" and "religious" and "cult" in The New York Times for the year 2004 yielded just one article -- a magazine piece in March.

The mainstream media pounded President Bush for trying to explain that the War on Terror is unwinnable in a conventional sense. The mainstream press itself proves the president's point every time its reporters disguise the deadly fanatical nature of our opponents in this global war. How are we to win a war against blood-spattered enemies whom our own free press continues to protect through politically correct sanitization?

It wasn't no-name militants or wayward guerrillas who have butchered, beheaded and slaughtered thousands of innocents over the last three years alone. Anniversary reality check:

In the name of Allah, Muslim terrorists in Russia stabbed babies to death, shot toddlers in the back, forced children to eat rose petals and drink their own urine, raped teenage girls, executed their teachers and blew themselves up in a crowded school gymnasium. Death toll: 338.

In the name of Allah, Muslim terrorists in Spain detonated bombs on four commuter trains during Madrid's rush hour. Death toll: 190.

In the name of Allah, Muslim terrorists in Bali blew up a beach resort with an electronically triggered bomb at one bar and a car bomb hidden in a van at another nightclub filled with young Western tourists on holiday. Death toll: 202.

In the name of Allah, Muslim terrorists in Pakistan kidnapped and beheaded American journalist Daniel Pearl.

In the name of Allah, Muslim terrorists in Saudi Arabia kidnapped and beheaded American engineer Paul Johnson.

In the name of Allah, Muslim terrorists in Iraq kidnapped and beheaded American independent contractor Nick Berg.

In the name of Allah, Muslim terrorists in Iraq kidnapped and executed Italian security guard Fabrizio Quattrocchi.

In the name of Allah, Muslim terrorists in the Philippines kidnapped and killed American missionary Martin Burnham.

In the name of Allah, Muslim terrorists in Israel engineered near-simultaneous suicide attacks on two buses, killing at least 15 people.

In the name of Allah, Muslim terrorists in Morocco waged suicide bombing attacks in Casablanca.

In the name of Allah, Muslim terrorists in Turkey bombed synagogues and the British consulate.

In the name of Allah, Muslim terrorists in America hijacked and incinerated three planes full of men, women and children, trapped pregnant women and firefighters in smoke-filled stairways, and forced office workers to leap 99 stories to their deaths after saying final prayers from the ledges of the World Trade Center on a peaceful September morning. Death toll: 3,000.

They tell us to "never forget." First, let's stop misremembering.

Michelle Malkin is a syndicated columnist and maintains her weblog at michellemalkin.com

Ian McColgin
09-08-2004, 07:46 AM
Malkin may be overstating her point with the repeated "In the name of Allah," but it's interesting. Not "In the name of Saddam." Not on behalf of the anti-US secular Baath party.

So just what did Iraq have to do with the September 11 attack?

Thank you for reminding us, Ms Malkin, that Iraq's secular dictator had nothing to do with that attack.

Thank you for reminding us, Ms Malkin, that our gratuitious war on Iraq has nothing to do with defeating terrorism.

Thank you for reminding us, Ms Malkin, that the stepped up terrorism of the last three years has been killing people outside our borders.

Thank you for reminding us, Ms Malkin, why we need to get a leader into the White House.

km gresham
09-08-2004, 07:48 AM

It appears that Russia is eager to get a piece of the war on terrorists - now. Pre-emptive strikes on terrorist bases. Sounds right.

[ 09-08-2004, 08:49 AM: Message edited by: km gresham ]

09-08-2004, 08:07 AM
a calling from beyond the stars

Joe (SoCal)
09-08-2004, 08:07 AM
Karen did you write all that yourself?

Ahhh I just saw it was C&P :rolleyes:

09-08-2004, 08:16 AM
There was some politically correct sanitization going on under Rumsfield when the Office of Special Plans was put together. Group-think. Bad intel. Chalabi supporters. Richard Perle.

yep,,remember 9/11. And how the task of taking over security in Iraq was left to the invading forces. A little like expecting the wrecking crew at a job site to then build the house. A plan who's parameters were set by military experts like Wolfowitz/Rumsfield/Perle/Feith/Luti. Think about it,,a corporate raid,,get in, get out, take the cash for the next 'investment'. With generalized rationalizations that the free flow of capital is good for everyone.

Karen,,,which of the Iraqis killed so far are terrists? How does occupying Iraq eliminate transnational terrorists who never lived in Iraq?

km gresham
09-08-2004, 08:54 AM
And how many thousands who are alive now would be filling Saddam's mass graves after the evil sons were done with them?

09-08-2004, 09:08 AM
a vote for Kerry is a vote for the terrists-Cheney

Ian McColgin
09-08-2004, 09:13 AM
It's actually quite hard to get accurate numbers. Our sanctions, mostly I regret to say under Clinton, caused the deaths of at least 400,000 Iraqi's, mostly children. We blame Saddam for those deaths.

If you leave sanction related deaths out, most of Saddam's bit atrocities occurred before the first Gulf War but he did continue killing people. Best numbers I could get indicate a twenty year average of about 10,000 of his subjects per year.

Numbers are very squishy for us as well. Thus far since May 2003, we have been killing at a rate that annualizes between 6,000 and 11,000 non-combatants per year.

For Iraqi's, the probability of death by non-natural causes appears about the same ante- and post-Saddam.

09-08-2004, 09:21 AM
Originally posted by km gresham:
And how many thousands who are alive now would be filling Saddam's mass graves after the evil sons were done with them?Karen,,,how many should we kill so that Saddams sons don't get to them? I guess you forget the Kurds killed as we allowed helicoptor flights into the no fly zone? I guess you forget the Shiiaa that rose up after 91' and found themselves alone. Why oh why aren't the Iraqis walking arm in arm with us to a better future?
So,,do you have any sense on how many of the 12,000-14,000 are 'terrists'?

www.juancole.com (http://www.juancole.com)
Wednesday, September 08, 2004
Heavy Fighting in Sadr City, Fallujah
US Military Deaths Pass 1000

Jeff Gray of The Toronto Globe and Mail reports

The U.S. military death toll in Iraq passed 1,000 yesterday, a statistic that Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry called a "tragic milestone" and that some analysts said could play an important role in the race for the White House.

The tally pales in comparison to the number of Iraqis killed (estimated at between 12,000 and 14,000) and to the U.S. body count at the height of hostilities in Vietnam. But it is three times the number of American dead from the 1991 Persian Gulf war.

By last night, 998 U.S. troops and three civilians working for the U.S. military had been killed in the war, for a total of 1,001.

The tally was compiled by the Associated Press from Pentagon and family records plus reports from journalists in Iraq.

About 7,000 other Americans have been wounded.

I would wager that very few American newspapers mention the estimate of 12,000 Iraqis dead in the war so far when they report the numer of US military dead.

American television news very seldom shows wounded Iraqis in the hospital after an American strike, something that is a staple of Arab satellite t.v. Indeed, the US public is not being given a full view of the fighting in Iraq. I just don't see that many mentions of the US bombing Iraqi cities, and don't remember seeing much footage of this bombing or its aftermath. For the US to bomb inhabited city quarters in a country that it occupies strikes me as problematic. For all the talk of precision hits, civilians are inevitably harmed.

Heavy fighting between US forces and the Mahdi Army militia left 40 dead and 270 wounded in East Baghdad.

US forces bombed Fallujah from the air on Tuesday and Wednesday. , according to AP. Al-Jazeerah showed footage of the aftermath of the battle at Fallujah.

martin schulz
09-08-2004, 10:15 AM
Remember 9/11 - and all the othersWhen have you ever cared about: all the others?

When have I ever heard concern about the victims of IRA, RAF or ETA terrorists?

Where have you been fighting "war on terrorism" before 9/11?

No - that was just our problem and it needed one attack on US soil to start a global war on terrorism where everybody must engage or else is against the US.

High C
09-08-2004, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by Ian McColgin:
It's actually quite hard to get accurate numbers...Our sanctions...caused the deaths of at least 400,000 Iraqi's, mostly children.

George Roberts
09-08-2004, 10:33 AM
km gresham ---

Not to offend but ...

Hundreds of thousands died from genocide in the last year or so. Millions of children die each year from lack of very cheap medication.

Terrorists have caused too few deaths to attract all of the attention.

High C
09-08-2004, 10:40 AM
Originally posted by George Roberts:
Terrorists have caused too few deaths to attract all of the attention.

km gresham
09-08-2004, 10:41 AM
I think they've gotten plenty of attention - hopefully they're gonna get a lot more than they wanted.

09-08-2004, 11:05 AM
So if Russian invades Armenia, or Turkmenistan, claiming it is part of the War on Terror, I suppose you will applaud? I suppose your government, Bush or Kerry, will agree?

What if they occupy Iran? You know, the land of shiites - and oil.

Get real. This may get ugly.

km gresham
09-08-2004, 11:09 AM
I don't know how to break this to you, but it's ugly now. Or haven't you noticed?

09-08-2004, 11:23 AM