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km gresham
04-26-2005, 05:55 PM
Uh oh. So this is why they're all scrambling! :D

It Didn't Start With Tom DeLay

WASHINGTON, April 26, 2005

More Scrutiny For DeLay:

(CBS) A new study shows that members of Congress have taken more than $16 million in privately financed trips over the past five years, with many of the trips sponsored by non-profit groups that are not obligated to disclose who paid the bills.

The results of the study by PoliticalMoneyLine, an Internet site that compiles campaign finance information, were first reported by USA Today.

The problems of House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Texas, have placed a spotlight on congressional travel. DeLay has been accused of a spate of alleged ethical lapses, including travel that may have been paid for by a lobbyist.

Congressional rules permit privately financed travel, provided the money doesn't come from a lobbyist or the representative of a foreign interest.

But the study shows that more than half the private money spent on congressional travel since 2000 - $8.8 million - came from non-profit organizations who are not obligated to identify who may be actually paying the bills.

Widespread interest in DeLay's woes have spread bipartisan jitters through the halls of Congress. The Washington Post reports that members are racing to put their travel and campaign finance records in order in case their own activities come under scrutiny.

The newspaper also said that some members are restricting privately financed travel or even halting it altogether because of affaire DeLay.

The PoliticalMoneyLine study reviewed 5,410 trips taken by 605 members of the House and Senate. Democratic lawmakers had the edge, taking 3,025 trips, to 2,375 trips for GOP members.

The No. 1 trip-taker in dollar terms was Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., chairman of the House Judiciary Committee. Sensenbrenner took 19 trips valued at $168,000.

In contrast, DeLay finished 28th by taking 14 trips valued at $94,568.

Among those higher on the list than DeLay were 2008 presidential wannabes Joseph Biden, D-Del., and Evan Bayh, D-Ind., and two members of the Foreign Relations Committee, Richard Lugar, R-Indiana, and outgoing Marylander Paul Sarbanes (D).

Rep. Harold Ford Jr., D-Tenn., took the most trips - 63. But Ford's less expensive domestic jaunts only totaled $61,000.

Top travel destinations, besides the U.S., were Mexico and Israel.

Memphis Mike
04-26-2005, 05:57 PM

Phillip Allen
04-26-2005, 06:10 PM
I'd like to see the people of this country get mad enough to clean house next election...don't care who's party. No doubt all parties are guilty...GUILTY! Trow da bums out and make a big stink doin it...folks need to be embarrassed...

04-26-2005, 06:29 PM
oohh pretty lights

km gresham
04-26-2005, 06:35 PM
Had a pretty big clearing out the year Tom Foley, Dan Rostenkowski et al got booted out. Remember the house bank scandal and the post office scandal? ;) smile.gif

Phillip Allen
04-26-2005, 06:41 PM
I don't know what we expected when we hired a bunch of lawyers to run the country???

Memphis Mike
04-26-2005, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by km gresham:
Had a pretty big clearing out the year Tom Foley, Dan Rostenkowski et al got booted out. Remember the house bank scandal and the post office scandal? ;) smile.gif Remember the GWB and WMD scandal in Iraq? I wonder how many are dead now. But it was very important to vote against gay marraige.

Joe (SoCal)
04-26-2005, 06:50 PM
I'm shocked, shocked that they would say such a thing! :rolleyes:

04-26-2005, 06:52 PM
I'm not going to stand for it anymore. I'm going to the bookstore!

km gresham
04-26-2005, 07:18 PM
Hey, Joe quit copying me! tongue.gif :D

04-26-2005, 07:39 PM
Um, hello?

Congressional rules permit privately financed travel...Delay broke the rules because his trips were improperly financed.

Don't get all excited to learn that others were properly financed.

The only thing this shows is that following the rules is neither difficult nor restrictive. That makes it all the worse that Delay broke the rules.

04-26-2005, 07:50 PM
What, are you telling me that

<span style="color: red; font-size: 3em;">Congress is Corrupt!?!?!

Tomorrow's exclusive km gresham revelation: "Water is Wet"!

:eek: :eek: :eek:

[ 04-26-2005, 08:55 PM: Message edited by: Meerkat ]

04-26-2005, 08:47 PM
This article doesn't say anything about corruption.

It says that some members of Congress took trips.

Well, I should hope so!

Just yesterday, Brad told us all how important business travel is. If a representative is going to make some decision such as whether or not to permit mining in a national monument, or drilling in a national wildlife refuge, I certainly hope they get off the couch and go take a look at it.

What's more, members of Congress work for the American people. I think they should be required to travel around and appear in front of groups like non-profits.

Anywhere a group of concerned citizens wants to have a word with a representative, I think they ought to send him a ticket, summons him and ask him a few questions.

Lobbyists, on the other hand.... well, that's against the rules, and for good reason.

Delay broke the rules. This article says that lots of other people followed the rules.

04-27-2005, 12:25 AM
Uh oh, so this is why some folks are whistling in the wind.


04-27-2005, 12:51 AM
I wish those hawks in congress would have taken a trip to Iraq to see for themselves what a con they were voting for.
I want my country back.

Cuyahoga Chuck
04-27-2005, 09:33 AM
If they do it too does that mean I ain't guilty?