Socialism, In case you were wondering,,,,,,,

[Ian G Wright]

'To secure for the workers by hand or by brain the full fruits of their industry and the most equitable distribution thereof that may be possible upon the basis of the common ownership of the means of production, distribution and exchange, and the best obtainable system of popular administration and control of each industry or service'

To which my Grandpa would add:-

"Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall he comforted. Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled. Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy. Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God. Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness’ sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for My sake"

Throw in an election every five years or so
and you have Traditional Christian Socialism.
I thought you might like to know,,,,,,,

IanW

[Scott Rosen]

Originally posted by Ian G Wright:
'To secure for the workers by hand or by brain the full fruits of their industry and the most equitable distribution thereof that may be possible upon the basis of the common ownership of the means of production, distribution and exchange, and the best obtainable system of popular administration and control of each industry or service'I guess that means that the American system of labor unions, public corporate stock ownership where the shareholders elect corporate directors is pretty much socialism.

Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for My sake"
An admirable sentiment, if not very practical. Being a member of a group that is on the receiving end of its fair share of revulsion, persecution and evil . . ., I can't say I've ever known anyone who felt blessed by it.

[Andrew Craig-Bennett]

which saved us British from the madness of Hegelian dialectic, in the very poisonous form of Marxist-Leninist dialectical materialism, and made us the rather nice, comfortable, reasonable country that we are today (on our good days!) by giving us

National Insurance**
National Health
The Health Visitor
School Milk*
Council Houses*
The Butler Education Act of 1944*

* Wrecked by Thatcher
** Wrecked by Blair

[mmd]

Too bad that in too many instances and places such noble ideals have been supplanted with:

"Do unto others before they do it to you."

[Dennis Marshall]

"A socialist means a man who wants all the chimneys swept and all the chimney sweeps paid for it. But who won't allow you to own your own soot." GKC

Dennis

[ 03-14-2003, 06:03 PM: Message edited by: Dennis Marshall ]

[Ian G Wright]

Originally posted by Scott Rosen:
[QB Being a member of a group that is on the receiving end of its fair share of revulsion, persecution and evil . . .,.[/QB]
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I know what you mean Scott, us smokers are having a rough time just now, eh?

IanW.

[Scott Rosen]

I was thinking of my status as a wooden boat owner. :D