rpm -iv jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.rpm

[cs]

rpm -iv jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.rpm

When ran from the directory that java is in I get this:

bash: rpm command not found

Chad

[Meerkat]

Check your path environment setting.

[Nicholas Carey]

rpm is the Red Hat Package Manager. You need to install it. Either that or the RPM executable isn't in your path. Look in the usual places -- I believe it should be in /usr/local/bin, but don't quote me on that -- the usual places should be

/bin
/sbin
/usr/bin
/usr/sbin
/usr/local
/usr/local/bin
/usr/local/sbin

To see what your path is, type

env | grep PATH=

Check to see if rpm is installed -- if it is, the man pages for it should have been installed, too. So, type 'man rpm' or 'apropos rpm'

To rummage the filesystem for rpm, this is the incantation you want to use:

find / -name rpm -print | more

find(1) will spew a bunch of whines about permissions being denied as it traverses the filesystem -- more(1) will page the output as it goes, pausing at the end of each page. Just hit the space bar to advance.

RPMs web site is at http://www.rpm.org where you can find distributions of the binaries or you can get the RPM source tarball (*.tar.gz or *.tgz)

Building it just require the following sequence of commands:

<download the source tarball to an *empty* local directory>. 'cd' to that directory and type:

tar -xvzf rpm.tgz
./configure
make clean test install

The RPM makefile might not have all the normal targets in its makefile so you might want to try:

make
make clean
make test
make install

Cheers,

N.

[Meerkat]

Belatedly recall that he's using a Debian derivitive.

Don't forget the "which" command:

cd /
which rpm

will tell you if rpm (or whichever app you look for) is on the path, and where.

[Meerkat]

You probably ought to be using aptget to install java or anything else.

[Meerkat]

Any luck, Chad?

[John Bell]

Are you running Ubuntu, Chad? If so, you can install the Java runtime libraries using the Synaptic Package Manager found under System>Adminstration>Synaptic Package Manager.

Once you get it open, search for Java and tell it to download and install the program.

[cs]

Still no luck. John I tried that and it still don't work.

Chad

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

Originally posted by cs:
Still no luck. John I tried that and it still don't work.

Chad:rolleyes:

[Donn]

Originally posted by Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson ):
:rolleyes: Watching it all go over his head. tongue.gif

[cs]

I'll keep looking and trying.

And Joe don't roll your eyes at me just becouase I got balls enough to try something different and you don't.

Chad

[ 01-01-2006, 07:26 PM: Message edited by: cs ]

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

Originally posted by Donn:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson ):
:rolleyes: Watching it all go over his head. tongue.gif </font>[/QUOTE]Screw you Donn. It's just another lame computer problem to bitch about. Over and OVER and OVER. There has got to be some computer geek forum for people who want to build computers out of hamster wheels then bitch about how they don't work.

Joe: Get a Mac. :D

Joe (eating new years left overs not even thinking about his computer watching the Twilight Zone marathon on SciFi. )

Computers kinda like a TV plug it in and watch it. You don't see people writing a threads about how to take a TV apart and built it back again - cause it's a freekin TV :rolleyes: )

[ 01-01-2006, 07:35 PM: Message edited by: Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson ) ]

[cs]

Joe, I'm a pretty tolerent guy, but I'm here to tell you that you are begining to become a real PIA.

I don't come on your threads and attack you or mock what you do, so why do you insist on doing it here? So what if I want to learn a new operating system in my spare time? And so what if I come here for advice? What the hell does it matter to you? NO, I'm not buying a Mac.

Why don't you grow up a little and relize that there is something outside your window besides Joe's world.

Chad

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

I don't have a window remember I'm on a Mac :D

Besides Chad I'm not the one who started this PIA thread

http://www.woodenboat-ubb.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=5;t=028619

You did, and now you bitch how your home built OS is not working. I'm just pointing out the irony.

[cs]

Yes I started that thread because you came on a thread where I was trying to learn something and started in with your one sided view of the world.

And besides my OS is working fine. I"m posting from a linux based machine that I put together myself which is running over a home network I installed myself.

I tell you what, why don't you try and learn something new and see if you don't need some folks to help you understand what you are doing.

I'm not saying and I"ve never said that linux is better than Mac. Neither have I said the Windows is better than Mac, but than I've never said that Mac is better than Windows. I don't know and I really don't care. I'm not using Mac, I'm using Windows and I'm using Linux.

If you don't like to see me take apart my TV and put it back together you can just go away.

Chad

[Donn]

:D You go, Chad!

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

What's a matter Donny boy you don't like me do you ;)

Bwaaaaaaaaa Ha Ha like I care. :D :D

Hey chad if you can't take a little busting I'l leave you and your AV club alone. When another computer headache arises, and it will, again and again. I will leave to your own self created troubles. Just know I will notice it.

[Donn]

Originally posted by Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson ):
What's a matter Donny boy you don't like me do you ;)

Bwaaaaaaaaa Ha Ha like I care.

:D :D :D

[Paul G]

Chad

sudo apt-get install java-package java-common
sudo apt-get install build-essential

Download JRE Linux Self-Extracting File from http://java.sun.com (jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin or something similar, NOT the RPM).
sudo apt-get install fakeroot
fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb

sudo update-alternatives --config java

Youre doing fine,

Paul

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

Donn, It is extremely pleasing to know that with every post with every one of my threads, I utterly annoy and piss you off. My very existence on this forum causes you extreme grief. I know this because I was privy to your emails to Ed Harrow and how I absolutely drive you mad with hate and anger.

Funny cause I could care less about your anger driven threats. But for the sake of your tender heart you should keep the nitro pills handy when you see my post's :D

I'm overjoyed when your madness will erupted into yet another Scoting because of your abusive, obnoxious threatening attacks. I will continue to post and enjoy myself while you wallow in your despair :D

Donn, you, have threatened me, you have wagered with me and you have welched and cowered on each and everyone. Publicly made a fool of on this forum. You and I both know your all Merlot and no action. Enjoy the new year Donn.

I hope I spelled more than a few words in this thread to piss you off :D

[ 01-01-2006, 09:01 PM: Message edited by: Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson ) ]

[cs]

When I was a toddler, I was content to sit in my sandbox and play peacefully in my little corner of the world. Never knowing or caring what was outside of my little corner of the world.

Never had to worry about my sandbox breaking or becoming obsolete.

As I got older I moved up to tire swings. Ocasionally you had to change out the rope, but my view of the world was expanded a little.

Even older I discovered bycycles. Sometimes we would have flat tires or a chain would come off or maybe even you would bend a wheel. But my world was expanded way beyond that sandbox in the back yard.

Man I've come along way from playing in my sandbox that you never had to worry about breaking or locking up on you. But I grew and will continue to grow.

So Joe, you just stick to your sandbox and I will contnue to expand my horizons. If I stumble and if I fall forgive me I'm just learning as I go alone.

Chad

[cs]

Paul. I'm also working on the issue of install opera. It is giving my some errors and I'm looking at doing an alternative installation which requires me to edit the source.list file with this line.

deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free

I opened it up in the text editor but it will not let me edit it.

Chad

[cs]

Paul I think I figured that out. Well not really, I found the answer posted on another forum. He recomends deleting everyting in the source.list and pasting this in instead.

## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch updated software from the network
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted

## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch major bug fix updates produced
## after the final release of the distribution.
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted

## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
## repository.
## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
## team.
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe

deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted

deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe

deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy multiverse
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy multiverse

Whatcha you think?

Chad

[Paul G]

Chad first back up your /etc/apt/sources.list

sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak

then use kate to edit it as it a bit easier than vi.

sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list

and try it out! I had no problems installing java.

[ 01-01-2006, 09:22 PM: Message edited by: Paul G ]

[imported_GregW]

Chad,

Follow Paul G's instructions to the letter. They're precise and accurate, (always good practice to back up files before changing them) and will get your Java up and running.

[ 01-01-2006, 09:27 PM: Message edited by: GregW ]

[High C]

Joe, I try very hard to be civil and not call people names here, but you really make it hard. Jeezus H Christ, GROW UP, or at least SHUT UP! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

Originally posted by High C:
Joe, I try very hard to be civil and not call people names here, but you really make it hard. Jeezus H Christ, GROW UP, or at least SHUT UP! :rolleyes: You need to try harder ;)

Amazing the same right wing neocons like Donn and HiC would be so quick to jump on lil ol me :D Amazing coincidence aint it :D

Bwaaaaa ha like I care :D

Hey chad I was willing to back out of this thread but as long as they keep swinging I will keep smacking those moles :D

[John Bell]

I thing the reason Synaptic didn't find the Java package is that you didn't update your sources. I had forgot that I had done that. When you do, you'll find there's something like 11,700 packages that will install automatically.

I think I only installed JRE 1.4, but that was good enough to run the Javascript on my daughter's teacher's blog.

[High C]

Originally posted by Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson ):
...You need to try harder...No I don't. I didn't call you a juvenille dickhead, a narcissistic boob, or any of the myriad other names that members who read your posts think quietly to themselves.

I'd say my restraint is rather ramarkable. tongue.gif

Believe it or not, there are people who are interested in the technical aspects of computers, in what makes them tick. These are the people who design them and make them work, so that even a guy who doesn't know how to charge a car battery can get onto the Internet and show his ass to the world.

And yes, even yours has partitions that someone with knowledge and skill put there so you could remain blissfully ignorant. tongue.gif

[imported_GregW]

Joe,

What Chad is doing here is experimenting with, and learning about ,a new OS. Ironically enough, the OS that he's experimenting with is pretty the same thing you are using.
All OS X is a tarted up version of something called BSD which is an open source UNIX based OS. Chad is using UBUNTU Linux which is also a open source UNIX based OS. The internal workings of his system and yours are almost identical, the difference will be in the GUI, and other proprietary Apple stuff. Oh yeah forgot to mention...his is free and you had to pay for yours.

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

Free ? Oh cool you mean to say you get the computer with it too ??? WOW I want a free LINUX computer. Cause I bought my computer and the OS came free, Bummer ;)

[Katherine]

Originally posted by Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson ):
I bought my computer and the OS came free, Bummer ;) That's not free.

[imported_GregW]

Joe,
What? Apple is giving away OS X! Where can I get it?
BTW we'll see how free your software is when Apple changes over to Intel architecture later this year. That is going to be one interesting move.

[ 01-01-2006, 10:23 PM: Message edited by: GregW ]

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

OK Chad buys a computer for $500 it comes with Wintel on it. He chooses to put free LINUX on it. Does Microsoft give him rebate to make LINUX OS totally free?

I buy a Mac. I pay $500 (Mac Mini $499.00 ) I get OS X I don't want to fiddle with it so I just enjoy it. Seems like a good deal to me. :D

I don't have Virus ( not free ) I don't have crashes ( not free ) I don't even think about my OS I watch TV same thing no need to fiddle with it continuously or complain constantly - I say thats a FREE OS :D

As for the Intel/x86 switch a new version of Xcode is available that will make "fat" binaries, applications that contain code for both PowerPC and x86 processors. This means all future applications developed using Xcode should be compatible with both current PowerPC Macs and future x86 Macs. Developers still using Metrowerks CodeWarrior will need to move to Xcode.
Rosetta is only used for translating old PowerPC applications to run on the x86 chipset. Future fat binaries will be 100% PowerPC compatible and 100% x86 compatible without needing the Rosetta translation engine. Fat binaries will run at full speed on both PowerPC and Intel systems. Oh but I don't know anything about computers Im just a lil ol Mac user smile.gif Apple has never made their own chips they used AMD and Motorola's A mac is a mac . They may switch to another in the further. I wont care because I wont have to care.

[ 01-01-2006, 10:38 PM: Message edited by: Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson ) ]

[Paul G]

Joe,

Your apple is a good machine but the philosphy behind it sucks, likewise with windows. At the end of the day who cares? Certainly not me or Chad. Chad is going to have a steep learning curve just like me, but eventually he will become confident and understand his tools and wont be suckered by big companies who tell people how to think.

The disadvantage that most apple users have is that they are essentially morons (yourself excepted of course) whos level of skill is about the same as making toast (metaphorically speaking of course)

Chad on the other hand will be a master of fine cuisine and will be able to create masterpieces from the raw ingredients whereas the apple user will forever have to order in from Bill Gates Greasy spoon inc. (Bill still owns apple doesnt he)

[cs]

Joe, just so you know. The machine I'm running linux on is an old retired windows machine. When I say retired I mean an old outdated machine that has been repleaced and put in the throw away pile at work. Same with the router I used to install my network with. Total cost in setting up a homenetwork and a linux box $0.

Chad

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

True TOTAL COST

The hidden cost of support - and perhaps frustration - at least
partially offsets the Mac's higher prices. The price gap has narrowed, but it will never close completely. Macs come with more standard features - all Macs, including laptops, have sound and networking built in. Apple has usually - but not always - used higher quality components than the average PC clone. PC accessories are generally cheaper, but then I've seen a lot of bad keyboards and fuzzy monitors on PC clones. A good monitor costs the same for either system. Ultimately, Apple spends more money; it makes major investments in research and development. For the typical PC clone company, R&D consists of reading spec sheets fromTaiwan.

Macs have a longer useful lifetime. I use a five-year-old Mac to play today's multimedia CD-ROMs without difficulty. In the past five years on a PC, I've had to change the CPU twice, the video card twice, the motherboard twice, and the sound board once, just to play ordinary discs. I don't need to convert that old Mac to run LINUX Something I guess Chad likes to do :D

[ 01-01-2006, 10:58 PM: Message edited by: Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson ) ]

[Paul G]

Are you selling Macs now Joe?

[cs]

Joe, if you 5 year old Mac can keep up with the apps I run and as much as the are upgraded than I guess I mis-understand them.

Sure I could have kept windows NT4.0 on this system and it would have been a lot less hassle, but than again, I have this thing about not driving a Geo. Go figure.

Chad

[Katherine]

Chad, how do you feel about a 16 year old Volvo?

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

Originally posted by Paul G:
Are you selling Macs now Joe?I could sell anything give me a chance ;)

Chad good luck with LINUX it's a much better system than what you are used to. Funny enough it is closer to my Mac. ;)

Understand as long as we have OS religion wars I will have to take the SamF side :D Since there are so few of us Mac users Im the only voice for the few smile.gif

[Meerkat]

Originally posted by Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson ):

I buy a Mac. I pay $500 (Mac Mini $499.00 ) I get OS X I don't want to fiddle with it so I just enjoy it. Seems like a good deal to me. :D
Firstly, the OS isn't free: it's cost is bundled into the cost of the hardware. Updates are not only not free, they're quite expensive compared to Linux updates, which ARE free.

Secondly, while you might enjoy OS X on a base Mac Mini, you won't enjoy much else since there's so little memeory available (128mb). Have to buy more memory to make it even moderately usable, but Apple limits the amount of memory you can install, at least under warranty.

Thirdly, Mac Minis, like most PPC-based Macs, are SLOW. There's a reason Apple is switching to Intel. tongue.gif

Forthly, both Apple and third party Mac apps are expensive compared to their equivilents on Windows. On Linux, most apps are free.

Macs are the "Computers for Dummies" of the computer world: they're slow, clumsy to use, limited by their manufacturer to force expensive upgrades and gain their popularity by massive marketing hype. They are pretty though - which is important for a market looking more for form than substance.

[Meerkat]

Oh yes - and the reason Apple switched to a Unix derivitive OS is that their inhouse attempt to build an OS was a bad joke. It used technology that was developed for mainframes in the 70's and quickly superceded by better technology; Apple just didn't follow along. Indeed, they were copying technology in the '80's and 90's that was old before the Mac came into existance.

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

If I'm so dumb, why does one of the smartest guys I know works on a Mac?

He is scientist for NASA Godard Space institute at Columbia. He likes Mac's cause they are UNIX based and fit perfectly for his scientific work. Healso thinks they are cool smile.gif

I'm done with this thread. I will leave you all with this:

Buy a Mac and Vote for Pedro :D

http://www.freecodesource.com/pages/grafix/animated/anipics/dynamite.gif

[Paul G]

If I'm so dumb, why does one of the smartest guys I know works on a Mac? Anyone know what Joe is saying?

[Meerkat]

Originally posted by Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson ):
If I'm so dumb...

He is scientist for NASA Godard Space institute at Columbia.Sorry, no such thing as the "Godard Space Institute!" tongue.gif

Where ever your friend works, he would have never worked on a Mac before OS X, aside from which, most NASA computers run Linux or Solaris.

[ 01-02-2006, 12:15 AM: Message edited by: Meerkat ]

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

Originally posted by Meerkat:
Sorry, no such thing as the "Godard Space Institute!" tongue.gif Sorry for the typo Donn :rolleyes: Goddard Institute for Space Studies (http://www.giss.nasa.gov/) I guess I was waiting for the extra D ;)

Of course he works with other systems that what is so remarkable that for his personal system he CHOSE a mac.

[ 01-02-2006, 07:32 AM: Message edited by: Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson ) ]

[John Bell]

Gosh, I don't know....

I do know that absolutely none of my self esteem is based on what computer I use. To do so is just as silly as saying "all my pistols are Rugers, and anyone who doesn't shoot Rugers aren't worthy!"

Of course my Ruger will make just as big a smokin' hole in the screen of a Mac as a Smith & Wesson or a Glock. :D

(Heh, heh. We're going shooting today. Would that I had a dead Mac to shotgun as a symbolic end to this thread.) ;)

[Donn]

:D

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

Originally posted by Donn:
:D :D :D

[Donn]

<img src= "http://flashsrealm.com/animations/anikneejerk.gif">

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

http://strangecosmos.com/images/content/110912.gif

[sdowney717]

YHOO forums have an ignore feature.
This way you dont have to view responses from certain individuals. Is there a way to suggest this to woodenboat?

[cs]

Okay I made some progress this morning. I downloaded something called Automatix and used that to install Opera.

http://beerorkid.com/automatix/

Chad

[High C]

Originally posted by sdowney717:
YHOO forums have an ignore feature.
This way you dont have to view responses from certain individuals. Is there a way to suggest this to woodenboat?Please, God, please!

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

Originally posted by sdowney717:
YHOO forums have an ignore feature.
This way you dont have to view responses from certain individuals. Is there a way to suggest this to woodenboat?How come Donn the grammarnazi did not correct the YHOO typo :D

High C I will ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS be here no way to avoid me. What a wonderful thought going into the new year :D

[ 01-02-2006, 10:51 AM: Message edited by: Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson ) ]

[htom]

The family tree of the Unixen is both complex and complicated, with a bit of inbreeding. See the history chart at http://www.levenez.com/unix/ , directly as http://www.levenez.com/unix/history.html (the penguin refered to is virtual, at 1 August 1991)

However, I think of Linux as an independent development which is asymptoticly approaching the Unixen.

[Meerkat]

Depends on what you mean by "independent development."

[Phil Heffernan]

What a lot of people seem to be missing is that there are many ways to spend your time sitting in front of a computer...

One way is to treat the inner workings as a hobby, or even a vocation...These people are called programmers, software designers, computer engineers, etc. Chas seems to be one of these people, and if I were one, I'd love the whole concept of Linux...I love it anyway, but I don't use it...

Another way to spend time is to use specialized software to create artwork, video editing(movies), interactive presentations, electronic music, mixes, and the like. These folks are not dummies, as Meerkat would have you believe, just because they have no interest in the inner workings.

I am one of those people. I need to spend my time on mastering the software to create these pieces, not on the platform. I need to master Photoshop, Flash, Dreamweaver, Bryce, Terragen, Final Cut, Carrera, Illustrator, on & on & on....

I want a stable, intuitive, direct, stable, stable, dependable, big fat hard drive, great support, system...

I've used a Mac for 8 years, and the products I produce yield a 6 figure income year after year...

That's how I spend MY time...Others can spend their time how they see fit...

[Donn]

Originally posted by Phil Heffernan:
What a lot of people seem to be missing is that there are many ways to spend your time sitting in front of a computer...

I don't know, Phil. It seems there's really only one who misses that point.

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

Originally posted by Donn:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Phil Heffernan:
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I don't know, Phil. It seems there's really only one who misses that point.</font>[/QUOTE]http://zenbug.com/iPodFather.jpg

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