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Donn
12-08-2004, 05:03 PM
This is a shot of the aft half of the Sea Bright Skiff's interior:

http://www.ennui.net/~donn/boats/seabright/stern.jpg

1. The timber running up the center of the ransom is the sternpost (I believe). What's the horizontal timber called?

2. There are custom fit oak blocks that support the roundness of the rib/frame, at points where it bridges a shape change in the hull. More prominent in the stern, less so as the box keel sweeps out into the shape of the hull, forward.

What are the little blocks called?

3. Up the hull from the blocks, at each lap between two planks, there is a gap between the rib/frame and the hull. Are these just too small to be filled with smaller blocks, or doesn't it matter higher up the hull?

Thad
12-08-2004, 06:27 PM
It would be interesting if we could get a builder of these boats to tell what they called these parts. The horizontal piece I would call a cleat, or a batten assuming that it covers the inside of a seam. "Filler pieces" or "shims" for the other parts. As to the spaces, lapstrake planking only NEEDS contact with the ribs at the lap where there are fasteners. In those lower corners you might want full support for the planks where you might take the ground.

nedL
12-09-2004, 11:33 AM
Donn, Thad is correct about the name of the block on the inside of the transom (cleat) I believe it would have been to support a seat as in the 16' Hankins skiff below
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid143/p4521574c75803bd3f93aa0e5423184a4/f6a006d6.jpg

I know I'm butchering the name for those blocks but it is something like "codwad", some Jersey builders used them & some didn't.

mmd
12-09-2004, 12:14 PM
Ayup, that there is a cleat on the transom. The bits under the frames I've heard referred to as filler blocks.

Donn
12-09-2004, 01:12 PM
Thanks, gents. It indeed looks like a support for either a seat or decking.

"Codwad" is an interesting word. ;)

I'm starting to get her ready for new ribs. Burning off the paint on the inside of the planks behind the old ribs, poking out old rivets, sanding and sealing the planks where the new ribs will go.

All 23 ribs have to be replaced, but we'll do it half at a time. When the first half are in, I'll cut out the rest of the old ones, and they'll be replaced.

Then a few plank repairs/replacements, a center board and trunk, mast step, full set of rails, top board for transom, seats and a rudder. It's almost like building a new boat. Only the planking and maybe the sternpost and stem, will be original.

Stiletto
12-09-2004, 04:46 PM
Donn, are the fist lot of ribs you are replacing evry alternate one?

Donn
12-09-2004, 04:54 PM
No. They're in groups of 1, 3 and 4. The boat came to me with some of the ribs already removed, and I've removed existing parts of broken ribs. The biggest gap is 4 ribs, and they're ~8" OC.

Jack Heinlen
12-09-2004, 05:14 PM
I assume Holbzt is advising, and he's seen the boat, but I wouldn't worry too much about this boat losing its shape without the framing. You'll definately want to take some measurements, and place some braces, especially aft when you remove the transom.

I assume the wales are coming out? Do take some measurements, and a few a-beam braces are in order to keep her from spreading.

I'm jealous. When you first posted this boat I was full of lust. smile.gif

Donn
12-09-2004, 05:35 PM
Holzbt is not only advising, and instructing, but it's his fault I have the boat in the first place. He brought her to me. The real work will be done in his shop.

There's one cross-brace installed (see the pic) at the least supported position, with 1 rib under it, and 4 missing aft, 3 forward. I don't think the transom will have to come out, unless the sternpost is bad. The notch someone cut in it is limited to the top board. We should be able to replace that board in-place, no?

The wales will be replaced completely. I think we can install the ribs before removing the inwale, which is relatively sound, and providing some structure. The outwale is ~30% missing.

I've decided not to put an engine in her, even though she was built for an inboard. Oars and sail, and maybe an electric to move her in and out of the canal.

nedL
12-14-2004, 11:21 AM
I checked my source, "codwad" is the name for those spacer blocks. smile.gif

Old Bingey
12-14-2004, 05:28 PM
Now you know why some people lurk on this forum. I needed to know that word "codwad." Thanks.

Thad
12-14-2004, 07:31 PM
Great!

nedL
12-15-2004, 06:34 AM
After a bit of closer looking, the codwads may only be the large spacer blocks under the ribs in the rolled garboard keel, not sure. :confused:

Donn
12-15-2004, 07:00 AM
It's a rare word that can't be Googled up. 9 hits, and they're all about a “Cold Disk” Wax Deposition Apparatus (CoDWaD).

nedL
12-15-2004, 11:14 AM
Donn: If you like that one, can you tell me what "horse feathers" are. ;) (I leaned that one from my dad years ago.)

Donn
12-15-2004, 12:22 PM
Tapered wood filler strips placed along the butt ends of old wood shingles to create a relatively smooth surface when reroofing over existing wood shingle roofs.

AKA feathering strips

nedL
12-15-2004, 02:26 PM
Your good! :D

Wooden Boat Fittings
12-16-2004, 05:52 AM
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"Horse feathers," eh? Funnily enough, they used to put them on clinker ship's boats too -- under each lap all the way down the side, for about the middle third of the boat's length. They were there so that no lap could catch anywhere on the ship's hull as the boat was lowered.

While I'm not familiar with Sea Bright Skiff, I'd still have to say that as far as that full-width transom cleat is concerned it's too low to be a support for the sternsheets -- much more likely to be where the aftermost burden-boards lodged.

Mike

nedL
12-22-2004, 12:08 PM
"Codwad" -- see upper right drawing. :D http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid150/p7b52273156db8ea3a6ba0c5efaae6543/f5d8505b.jpg

[ 12-22-2004, 01:09 PM: Message edited by: nedL ]

Dave Fleming
12-22-2004, 12:11 PM
NedL, what book is that illustration from please?