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clancy
12-14-2005, 11:35 AM
Back in August I spent a week in the hospital for treatment of a leg infection which caused ulcers to open. I was seeing a vascular specialist in addition to my medical doctor. The specialist decided to admit me into the hospital where his office is located. My MD does not have privileges in this hospital. The specialist could not admit me himself because he is a surgeon, only a MD can admit you. The specialist had me admitted on a Wednesday by an infectious disease doctor who would be formulating the intravenous antibiotics they had decided on as a course of treatment.

On Thursday morning, as a courtesy, I called my medical doctor to let him know I was in the hospital. Two hours later I was approached by a doctor who told me he was a partner of my MD. He had privileges in this hospital and would be taking over as my MD of record. I asked him if he would fill out a form for me for NJ State Disability benefits. He declined. "I don't know you or anything of your medical history. I would feel more comfortable if you waited until you are discharged from the hospital and had my partner take care of it." So, he knew me well enough to get paid by my insurance company as my MD of record but not well enough to see that I got paid.

On Friday morning a woman from the hospital admitting office came to my room. She removed the patient bracelet from my wrist and replaced it with a new one that listed the new MD as my doctor. Without my knowledge or consent the doctor had discharged me and then re-admitted me under his name.

On Saturday morning I had an incident where one of the ulcers began bleeding profusely. A hospital MD was not available so I ended up with a resident doctor. While he was applying a pressure bandage to stem the flow a woman entered the room and told me she was doctor so and so and was covering my MD's patients for the weekend. I told her it was perfect timing as I needed the services of a doctor then and there. She left the room for what I thought was a consultation with the resident. About ten minutes later the resident returned to make sure I had not started bleeding again. I asked him where the doctor was and he informed me that she had left.

On Sunday morning the woman doctor returned. When I saw her I started screaming. "What kind of doctor are you? Yesterday I was sitting here in a bed full of blood and you simply walked away! What are you even doing here?"

She informed me that she was there to protect the financial interests of my MD. I can't print my response to her.

On Monday morning my new MD came by for a visit. I told him I didn't want to see him ever again. While he was in my room I called his partner, my regular MD, and read him the riot act.

Now here's my problem. In addition to the money that this doctor has stolen from my insurance company for doing absolutely nothing his office has sent me a bill seeking $200.00 from me for services rendered. I'm not looking to sue anyone but I would like to reply to his office threatening a malpractice lawsuit to get them to rescind this bill. Am I correct in assuming I have the grounds to carry out this action?

Meerkat
12-14-2005, 11:41 AM
I am not a lawyer, but it sounds like you have a case to me. Doctors are supposed to practice medicine, not money.

I'd get NJ State Disability involved. They have the necesssary weapons and deep pockets to deal with these quacks.

landlocked sailor
12-14-2005, 12:59 PM
Sounds more like fraud than malpractice; and REALLY bad bedside manner. Rick

Tristan
12-14-2005, 01:30 PM
Don't know if malpractice or not. However, an old remedy that some MD's think works better than modern antibiotics is to pack such hard to heal ulcers with ordinary sugar and bandage. Something you might want to look into.

FG
12-14-2005, 01:31 PM
Call the health insurance company and tell them you did not authorize a new doctor. Tell them they should not pay him or her as they were not your doctors. Ask the billing doctor for a copy of your consent to be his patient.

Gary E
12-14-2005, 01:40 PM
I not a lawyer either...but
He sounds like a first class @sshole of a Doc and should be sued...

If you can document all this and if you will never need him ever again and if your up to it, look into taking him to small claims court where you do not need a lawyer, he will have to show up or loose because he doesn't.

Jerks like this deserve the same sorta treatment as a bad auto mechanics or home repair morons...

[ 12-14-2005, 02:41 PM: Message edited by: Gary E ]

Norman Bernstein
12-14-2005, 01:42 PM
I'd get a lawyer. Simply remediating the invoice doesn't serve as an adequate deterrent for such reprehensible practices. If it were me, I'd be looking for 1) a genuine and sincere written apology by your original doctor, the covering doctor, and the other doctor who showed up and left, 2) complete coverage of any doctor's bills while you were admitted, 3) complete cancellation of any other bills from the practice, 4) return of any payments to the insurance company, and 5) your legal expenses.

If we don't go after that sort of behavior, it wil simply continue.

Gary E
12-14-2005, 01:58 PM
I think I agree with you Norm...

EXPOSE HIM !!
Problem in the world these Doc's operate in is that there is no Better Biz list of crapy Doc's that WE THE PUBLIC CAN SEE !!!

and if that dont work it's another job for Nunzio...

Yo, NUNZIO !!... where are ya?.. on another vacation paid for by the taxpayers??

[ 12-14-2005, 03:09 PM: Message edited by: Gary E ]

Paul Fitzgerald
12-14-2005, 02:05 PM
This mess started because the surgeon could not admit you, which doesn't make sense to me. You should also contact the hospital and insurer to let them know what happened. This sounds like some sort of managed care rule.
You would have been admitted by the surgeon in most parts of the world and the rest of the farce would not have occurred.

bukuboy
12-14-2005, 02:38 PM
Clancy, you don't seem too with it when it comes to how health care works in today's society. This is the norm however. You have managed care to thank for this. Now you know why doctors are retiring earlier and earlier. First, all the people who saw you were medical doctors, yes even that measily resident and the "vascular specialist". Second, your primary care physician would typically refer you to the vascular specialist and he(your PCP) should have referred you to one that admitted to the same hospital as your primary care physician(PCP). Your PCP should have called the vascular specialist and said that after seeing the patient(you), if you decide to admit pt. to hospital admit the pt. to this hospital as this is where I have privileges. Third, You have no grounds for malpractice that I can see. This shiit happens day after day all across the country. ---Bukuboy

bukuboy
12-14-2005, 02:47 PM
Your disability form should be filled out by your PCP not the resident, the vascular specialist or any other physician. Send all medical records (Even the medical records produced while you are in the hospital) to your PCP so that he has the necessary info to fill out your disability forms. ---Bukuboy

Mrleft8
12-15-2005, 05:29 AM
"Physician heal thyself.... Or at least get a boatload of money and run like hell....."