Sarah's New Home (Pic)

[Concordia..41]

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Ok, all wise and all knowing Forumites...what do I need to know about warehouses???? This is 50' wide x 60' deep with the two roll-up doors :D

With the exception of a 5'x8' bathroom in the back of the left side, the interior finish work is up to me. Basically I get two walls off the girders and that's that.

They're telling me the place will be ready December 1. Does that sound about right for all the work still to be finished? It's no big deal because Sarah isn't ready to move anyway.

Because of the driveway location (to the left of where I stood to take the picture), the truck will have an easier time getting the boat backed into the left bay (my my my, whatever in the world will I put in the right bay? :cool: :D ;) )

I do need an office so will utilize the area on the far right (or so I'm thinking) and will have storage overhead. The left side can be work benches, tools, etc., etc. :D

Obviously I need to get a picture of one of the finished buildings. They're quite nice (as warehouses go) with metal awnings over the walk-through doors, sidewalks, and nice landscaping. The driveways and parking areas are cement paved.

Oyster/Mike was in the area last week and walked around the space with me. He's going to help design a cradle that will get her moved and allow me to move the boat around in the space when needed.

There's another Concordia owner that's going to be here next week to lend a hand for a few days and yet another Concordia owner offered out of the blue to Woodmizer and deliver! new deadwood.

Matt Joyce is sending some Angelique to Chad Smith who is going to make Sarah some cleats (long story that I'll share some day).

Did I mention the stern knee is in (I know, I know, pictures...) and James has one floor cut and another in progress.

One of us is happy. Very very happy :D

-M

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[Donn]

Excellent! A good finishing space, and Oyster's help with the cradle. What more could Sarah ask?

[imported_Steven Bauer]

The stern knee is in? Thats great! Forward progress is a wonderful thing. smile.gif

Steven

[Jack Heinlen]

I assume you've measured the door? The floor space sounds right.

Looks good girl. A dirt or wood-floored shed in New England would be better, but that sounds pretty good.

Good luck Margo.

[Concordia..41]

Yep - opening width is 11' 10" x 14' high.

I was worried about the width of the truck. In response to my question in a previous post, the general analysis was that if the boat would fit, the truck would fit (except for Norm, who pointed out that if you had room for a good enough run then clearance wasn't such a worry... :rolleyes: )

[ 10-23-2004, 08:57 PM: Message edited by: Concordia..41 ]

[Stiletto]

That looks great, will there be enough room to sublet some space?

[Domesticated_Mr. Know It All]

Glad to hear about your new space Margo. :cool:
Warms my heart to hear Woodenboat forum members are helping out with Sarah. smile.gif
Peace---> Kevin in Ohio

[Mike Field]

Originally posted by Concordia..41:
One of us is happy. Very very happy .
Both of you, surely?
.

[Hughman]

Looking good, Margo! smile.gif

As Jack hinted, a concrete floor poses some challenges for a planked boat, in that the drying effects of cement are a problem, but a good roof is hard to beat

Cheers, Hugh

[ken mcclure]

Absolutely outstanding!

Try to get the roof insulated especially with the foil-backed insulation. It'll make a big difference in the heat inside.

Try also to get electrical outlets run all along the walls so that you always have a convenient place to plug in.

Be sure that you have adequate lighting available. If the permanent lighting is not sufficient, work lights will suffice. Lots of plugs will also help in being able to place the lights conveniently.

smile.gif

[Ken Hutchins]

I recommend getting a coat of sealer or paint on the concrete floor to reduce the drying effects and to reduce dust,

[Concordia..41]

Keep the good ideas coming! They're all going on the list of things to do smile.gif

- M

[Concordia..41]

As Mike mentioned, the warehouse is such an improvement over the tarp situation anything can be worked around. Also, the boat has been out of the water for approximately 5 years at this point. When we bought her in July of 2000, she has been sitting uncovered and filling with rainwater for approximately six months. Now having sat exposed to the elements since I took the enclosure down in August for the hurricanes, she’s a moldy mess.

The tarp situation would have been workable if the project could have been completed in two years or less, and I highly recommend it for anyone that’s got more than a few months of work on an exposed project. A large amount of time and effort went into the construction, repairs, and improvements, so that’s a factor to consider but to a large degree the tarps protected the boat, gave us shade to work under. At one point, I even had a separate varnish wing. But things happened as they did and even if Dave hadn’t gotten sick, I don’t think we could of done this in two years.

As to the warehouse and so that everyone’s on the same page for suggestions, layout, etc. this isn’t just a shelter for Sarah. My pockets aren't that deep :eek:

The need to shelter and complete Sarah is the impetus, but to help with the overhead this also needs to be a workshop/facility for my company, St. Augustine Boatworks. Boatworks is currently just doing brightwork and detailing, but I plan to expand the business however possible in order to cover some of the cost of the warehouse. Call me crazy, but I’ll have a huge work space, every tool known to man, and an active business with an 8-year history on the local waterfront. It would be crazy not to have the space producing income, especially since I’ve got a wooden boat to support :D

An additional consideration in the layout is the fact that I have a bookkeeping business and by setting up an office area suitable for at least two computer workstations and table for sorting and organizing documents, I can save renting another spot for an office.

The initial build-out is out of pocket, but once I get in I believe between the two businesses I can cover the monthly bills and have a supremely wonderful place for Sarah to be completed.

Thanks again for your ongoing help and suggestions!

- M

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[ken mcclure]

BIG -> smile.gif

Be sure that whatever surface you put on the driveway/parking lot will handle the weight of trucks and boats going in and out. Nothing worse than a driveway that continually needs re-work.

Make a space for a kitchen.

Make a sleeping space. There's gonna be those nights when someone's just too tired to go home.

[Concordia..41]

The driveway will be fine - I can only hope to have enough heavy boat traffic to be a problem :D (other tenants in completed buildings include Greyhound Bus, a welder, plumbing company, electrical company, a furniture storage place, food bank, and home health care supplies)

Kitchen idea good and noted :cool: (as to fridge and microwave at least - doubt I want to spend the money for the plumbing for a sink area)

Sleeping area? Nah! That's what those nice Concordia berths are for & and all the more incentive to get the interior back together :D In the interium, the cockpit floor is down right comfortable DAMHIKT ;)

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[imported_Steven Bauer]

I wish I lived closer to help out with bulding your office space, etc. That's the kind of stuff I do all the time. Feel free to ask questions, though. :D

Steven

[Hwyl]

Be careful about the kitchen and sleeping space idea. If I remember you've already run afoul of varnish fumes.

I wonder how many of my aches pains and wheezings are attributable to sleeping and eating with epoxy as a bedmate and antifouling as a condiment.

[cs]

Glad to hear you are getting a good place to work on her. Looking forward to more updates.

Chad

[Matt J.]

Besides :cool: and :eek: and :D ... what can I say!? That's fantastic. If the building is up and about ready for interior fit out, then it darn well better be finished with the paving and other sitework in a month plus.

Those warehouse buildings are incredibly popular right now. Nothing better for a boat shop in a densely populated area.

Fantastic, Margo.

[JimD]

Envious and happy for you

[BrianR]

Good score Margo! Concrete can be brutal on your feet and legs after a long day. You might want to consider plywood on the floor. Might save a few tools too. Maybe something that "gives" under that too. Just a thought. Good luck.

[SC-Lion]

Looks like a great building Margo. Congratulations :cool: ! You might want to add basic compressed air distribution along the back wall. Copper pipe is the way to go if you do run compressed air. The other nicety I would value is a stall shower.

-Gary

[JimConlin]

Hang in there, Margo!
Be assured that Sarah will eventually float.

http://www.conlin-boats.com/on-deck-20.jpg

Jim

[Bob Perkins]

Can't wait for the pictures...

We love pictures... smile.gif

[True Love]

Since you are going to run a business out of there, I am assuming you will have air conditioning? What kind of ventillation will you have for the boat? Fans?

[Wild Dingo]

STREWTH!!! Bloody eck Margo me dear talk about takin the bull by the horns and ridin it down! whooooeeeeeeee woman! Sarah will be extatic! ;)

Tis truely excellent that Mike Matt Chad and others have stepped up to the plate to get everything done as YOU want it... man Im more than impressed Im honored to know you mob! :cool:

Now me Id make damned sure theres showering and running water available along with the power points mentioned Id go for some that hang down from the roof... dont know if you fellas have them but here sometimes in sheds of that size they run the lead down from the rafters attached to chains with the socket and switch hanging so you can change its height as needed... also that idea with the compressed air would be a ripper for all that varnishin you love doin... but Mike makes an interesting cheep alternative to the floating timber floor mentioned... seems to me you got it worked out

Oh!! put in plenty of lighting!!! gotta see what you gotta see

Definantly proud of this! :cool:

[Concordia..41]

True Love - good point and one already considered. The next part of the "plan" includes going door to door and meeting my soon-to-be neighbors and seeing what they've done. There are two buildings and about a dozen spaces completed and occupied. My plan of attack is to see what everyone else has done, get a feel for what is allowed and not, and then decide on my plan.

Shane - it is wonderful! And plenty of electric, air, and lighting are a given. :D Whether or not I put in a shower remains to be seen. The floor is poured with only the plumbing for a sink and head. I'll nose around the neighbors' places and see what all they've got going.

The bad thing is that she's going to be so alone out there. :( :( I know there will be stretches when I don't get by for days, and with no other boats around... :(

- M

[True Love]

M - glad to hear you're doing the AC. Gets awful hot and muggy down your way.

How about putting in a radio tuned to a classical station (or whatever you like) to keep the lady happy when you're not around? Nice mood creator.

[Concordia..41]

A radio is a good idea, but I'm figuring her to be a Jimmy Buffet/James Taylor kind of girl.

A nightlight is also on the must-have list. smile.gif

I went by there today and the windows are in and the frames for the awnings were started. :cool:

[Peter Malcolm Jardine]

smile.gif Your progress warms my heart, and brings back memories too Margo ;)

He's watching and smiling... slowly shakin his head :D ;)

[Wild Dingo]

Air con? big industrial job to keep her nice an cool... I do like the Jimmy Buffet idea way cool... so whens the big move day mmmm??

I think maybe you should talk with Cecil and grab some ideas from his shed I mean thats one heck of shed you have there and Cecils would be one of the best laid out Ive seen for a long while... ideas are always good :cool:

On another note... why hire the other side out? I mean yer gonna need room not only for "all the tools known to man" but for timber and your favorite fashion accessory VARNISH {you have put your order in for a 44 gal drum of the best you can get right? ;) } another area sectioned of and sealed for the varnishin of spars and such so no airborn things can stick to it... which leads me to why you really shouldnt rent a section of the shed out cause when you get to varnishing your gonna be naked right? and you dont want no neighbor peekin droppin spanners hammers and such on their toes do you when they spot your nakedness through the sealed walls :eek: :D

Okay Im gonna stop me mind about now as its headin into dangerous territory :eek: and just say I think your one hell of an AMAZIN woman! HEY heres a thought! are the girls gonna get their fingers out and help with Sarah? by gar ifn theys dont Im just gonna have to head up there and do somethin radical :mad: nah! dont lissen to me girl you do what you know you can... get her done! :cool: