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AussieBarney
03-13-2019, 12:47 PM
Here in Australia, we had a little win.

I have mentioned at one time that I am a survivor of clerical sexual abuse. It came close to being the incident that caused me to suicide as a teenager.

Bad Ju-ju is how I will describe it.

Historically, The Roman Catholic Church has used it's power, political and social to stop any investigation or criminal charges against any priest going forward. This left any survivor in limbo.

In the Melbourne County Court yesterday, George Arthur Pell, aged 77 years ( Cardinal) was sentenced to six years in gaol for historic sex crimes against children committed during the '80's. and '90's

He is the highest ranking priest to face justice for his actions

May his foul, putrid soul suffer the eternal torment that they shoved at us as they abused us.

It will be interesting to see what the Vactican does about this.

Will he lose his rank? It will be fun to watch. The Vatican thinks they are separate to the rest of us and that they do not have to face secular law.

F*****G WRONG, George.

I am an ex-prisoner, so I know how it works, Pell has some serious time ahead of him.

His issues are:

He is a rockspider,

He is an ex-priest,

He is high profile.

He will live under very strict segregation, watched and guarded to make sure he is not attacked.

His age will not protect him. he is a marked man and every hand is against him.

He has lost it all. His status is gone, his power is gone

He will be registered as a sex offender.

I hope that he was given the traditional welcome of the rockspider and flogged twice before he got to his first cell.

A little win for the common man

We Got one.

Katherine
03-13-2019, 12:49 PM
May he get the punishment he deserves.

Peerie Maa
03-13-2019, 01:22 PM
It will be interesting to see what the Vactican does about this.

Will he lose his rank? It will be fun to watch. The Vatican thinks they are separate to the rest of us and that they do not have to face secular law.
I think that with the current pope in the driving seat the Vatican will say nothing in opposition to this sentence.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/18/credibility-of-catholic-church-at-stake-sexual-abuse-summit
From the BeeB
How has the Church responded?Pope Francis called for "decisive action" when he was elected in 2013, but critics say he has not done enough to hold to account bishops who allegedly covered up abuse.
In August 2018, he wrote to all Roman Catholics condemning clerical sex abuse (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45249109), and demanding an end to cover ups.
His predecessor, Pope Benedict, had been accused of failing to protect children and suppressing investigations - allegations he denied. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24222951)
Before him, under Pope John Paul II, Cardinal Bernard Law, the disgraced figure at the centre of the Boston scandal, was given a symbolic role in Rome close to the Vatican and allowed to maintain his rank, despite outrage from victims.
Between 2000 and 2010 several huge payouts were made by US dioceses to settle with victims.


Cardinal Pell guilty of sexual offences (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-47366113)
Pope compares sex abuse to human sacrifice (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47348479)
Pope says priests kept nuns as sex slaves (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47134033)

In 2011, Pope Benedict told bishops, in new guidelines, that they had to promptly report any suspected cases to local police. Previously, all cases were supposed to be referred to Rome.
Under Francis, a special panel has been set up to deal with the issue but it has faced setbacks, including high-level resignations. In 2017, Marie Collins, an Irish survivor of abuse, left the group, citing "stumbling blocks and hindrances".
During the summit in February 2019, Pope Francis promised an end to cover-ups, saying that all abusers would be brought to justice.



https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/all-optics-no-substance-survivors-react-to-vatican-abuse-summit-1.3804845

CWSmith
03-13-2019, 01:30 PM
The prisons are in need of clerics to minister to the imprisoned. Unfortunately for him, child abusers don't do well in prison. Tough break...

TomF
03-13-2019, 01:36 PM
I am glad to see the conviction - however belated.

skuthorp
03-13-2019, 03:34 PM
There is some support for him, amongst them 2 Conservative PM's.
There will be an appeal in progress.