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  • CK 17
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2002
    • 9374
    #1

    It’s being blamed on turbulence

    I have my doubts.


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    • Puttputt
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2017
      • 801
      #2
      Re: It’s being blamed on turbulence

      What do you think happened?

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        • Andrew Craig-Bennett
          Who?
          • Aug 1999
          • 28463
          #3
          Re: It’s being blamed on turbulence

          Gibraltar airport is known for it. Captain diverted to Malaga.
          IMAGINES VEL NON FUERINT

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            • CK 17
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2002
              • 9374
              #4
              Re: It’s being blamed on turbulence

              Originally posted by Puttputt
              What do you think happened?
              turbulance doesn’t usually result in evenly spaced wing rocking. I think turbulance started it and then it turned into a pilot induced oscillation.

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                • Mcjim
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 558
                  #5
                  Re: It’s being blamed on turbulence

                  Did I hear Jimmy Nail?

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                    • BrianW
                      not your average member
                      • Nov 2002
                      • 28194
                      #6
                      Re: It’s being blamed on turbulence

                      Originally posted by CK 17
                      turbulance doesn’t usually result in evenly spaced wing rocking. I think turbulance started it and then it turned into a pilot induced oscillation.
                      Saying hello to someone?
                      “Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.”― Mark Twain,

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                        • SchoonerRat
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 3645
                          #7
                          Re: It’s being blamed on turbulence

                          I say fake news!

                          I don't think that video will stand up to close scrutiny. If nobody else wants to bother to prove me wrong I guess I'll have to look myself.

                          But I will stand on the record as saying fake on first look!
                          Schooner sailors love to get blown offshore!

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                            • Bob Adams
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2000
                              • 12097
                              #8
                              Re: It’s being blamed on turbulence

                              Originally posted by SchoonerRat
                              I say fake news!

                              I don't think that video will stand up to close scrutiny. If nobody else wants to bother to prove me wrong I guess I'll have to look myself.

                              But I will stand on the record as saying fake on first look!
                              I'm fairly certain the aircraft's motions are real, the cause is suspect.
                              You must be the change you wish to see in the world."
                              Mahatma Gandhi

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                                • David W Pratt
                                  Senior Member
                                  • May 2005
                                  • 12331
                                  #9
                                  Re: It’s being blamed on turbulence

                                  Sort of makes me think of some sort of a feedback loop

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                                    • robm
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Mar 2009
                                      • 3455
                                      #10
                                      Re: It’s being blamed on turbulence

                                      That is what CK17 says it is. The feedback element is the pilot, overcorrecting.

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                                        • BrianW
                                          not your average member
                                          • Nov 2002
                                          • 28194
                                          #11
                                          Re: It’s being blamed on turbulence

                                          You think that 'wing wag' was bad, try ground resonance in a helicopter.

                                          “Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.”― Mark Twain,

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                                            • CK 17
                                              Senior Member
                                              • Jul 2002
                                              • 9374
                                              #12
                                              Re: It’s being blamed on turbulence

                                              Is that why you guys always wear helmets?

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                                                • Domesticated_Mr. Know It All
                                                  treetop flyer
                                                  • Sep 2003
                                                  • 23853
                                                  #13
                                                  Re: It’s being blamed on turbulence

                                                  Turbulent Flatulence.
                                                  Doing the left cheek sneak repeatedly.
                                                  Keep calm, persistence beats resistance.

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                                                    • BrianW
                                                      not your average member
                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                      • 28194
                                                      #14
                                                      Re: It’s being blamed on turbulence

                                                      Originally posted by CK 17
                                                      Is that why you guys always wear helmets?
                                                      They’re helicopter pilots... the helmets are to contain their egos.
                                                      “Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.”― Mark Twain,

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                                                        • Dave Hadfield
                                                          Senior Member
                                                          • Apr 2000
                                                          • 7473
                                                          #15
                                                          Re: It’s being blamed on turbulence

                                                          Yes, the control response algorithm in the 320 is odd. It's easy to introduce a pattern of oscillation without realizing it. We called it "Stirring the porridge" in training. The remedy was to simply take your hand off the stick for a couple of seconds. And then change your inputs to simple nudges.

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