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  • David G
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2003
    • 89936

    Foreign Policy: Trump vs. experts

    U.S. Intelligence experts dispute Trumps read on the global perils --

    North Korea is unlikely to give up its nuclear stockpiles and Iran is not developing nuclear weapons, an intelligence assessment says, challenging the president’s assertions.



    A new American intelligence assessment of global threats has concluded that North Korea is unlikely to give up its nuclear stockpiles and that Iran is not, for now, taking steps necessary to make a bomb, directly contradicting the rationale of two of President Trump’s foreign policy initiatives.

    Those conclusions are part of an annual “Worldwide Threat Assessment” released on Tuesday that also stressed the growing cyberthreat from Russia and China, which it said were now “more aligned than at any point since the mid-1950s.”

    The 42-page threat report found that American trade policies and “unilateralism” — central themes of Mr. Trump’s “America First” approach — have strained traditional alliances and prompted foreign partners to seek new relationships.

    In testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee linked to the release of the report, the nation’s intelligence chiefs tried to avoid directly questioning administration policies. Yet they detailed a different ranking of the threats facing the United States, starting with cyberattacks and moving on to the endurance of the Islamic State and the capabilities of both North Korea and Iran.


    Dan Coats, the national intelligence director, told lawmakers that the Islamic State would continue “to stoke violence” in Syria. He was backed up by the written review, which said there were thousands of fighters in Iraq and Syria and a dozen Islamic State networks around the world.
    Just last month, Mr. Trump said that “we have won against ISIS; we’ve beaten them, and we’ve beaten them badly” in announcing the withdrawal of American troops from Syria.

    The starkest contradiction drawn by the intelligence chiefs was their assessment of North Korea.

    Mr. Trump is expected to meet next month with Kim Jong-un, the North Korean leader, in a second round of direct negotiations aimed at ridding Pyongyang of its nuclear weapons. After his last meeting, in Singapore, Mr. Trump tweeted that “there is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea.”

    Mr. Coats described his concerns in opposite terms.....


    David G
    Harbor Woodworks
    https://www.facebook.com/HarborWoodworks/

    "It was a Sunday morning and Goddard gave thanks that there were still places where one could worship in temples not made by human hands." -- L. F. Herreshoff (The Compleat Cruiser)
  • John of Phoenix
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2001
    • 31214

    #2
    Re: Foreign Policy: Trump vs. experts

    Mr. Coats described his concerns in opposite terms.....

    Don't all reality based beings.

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    • Tom Montgomery
      Lurking since 1997
      • Sep 1999
      • 35645

      #3
      Re: Foreign Policy: Trump vs. experts

      TRump replied to the U.S. Intelligence experts via Twitter:

      The Intelligence people seem to be extremely passive and naive when it comes to the dangers of Iran. They are wrong! When I became President Iran was making trouble all over the Middle East, and beyond. Since ending the terrible Iran Nuclear Deal, they are MUCH different, but....

      ....a source of potential danger and conflict. They are testing Rockets (last week) and more, and are coming very close to the edge. There economy is now crashing, which is the only thing holding them back. Be careful of Iran. Perhaps Intelligence should go back to school!
      "They have a lot of stupid people that vote in their primaries. They really do. I'm not really supposed to say that but it's an obvious fact. But when stupid people vote, you know who they nominate? Other stupid people." -- James Carville on the plethora of low-quality GQP candidates in the mid-term election.

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      • LeeG
        Senior Member
        • May 2002
        • 73003

        #4
        Re: Foreign Policy: Trump vs. experts

        The potus just trashed the intelligence community with a childish tweet while being contradicted by it.

        “Perhaps Intelligence should go back to school!”. The GOP supports this incompetant mess.

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        • John Smith
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 48840

          #5
          Re: Foreign Policy: Trump vs. experts

          One would think this stuff would eventually get his base's attention.
          "Banning books in spite of the 1st amendment, but refusing to regulate guns in spite of "well regulated militia' being in the 2nd amendment makes no sense. Can't think of anyone ever shot by a book

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          • John of Phoenix
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2001
            • 31214

            #6
            Re: Foreign Policy: Trump vs. experts

            "There economy is now crashing,"

            Sweet Mother of God reds are illiterate.

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            • icyb
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2019
              • 1300

              #7
              Re: Foreign Policy: Trump vs. experts

              They should send Dennis Rodman he's closer and tighter with Kim.

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              • PhaseLockedLoop
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 3455

                #8
                Re: Foreign Policy: Trump vs. experts

                Foreign policy “experts”? Don’t make me laugh.
                The Case is Altered

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                • David G
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 89936

                  #9
                  Re: Foreign Policy: Trump vs. experts

                  Originally posted by PhaseLockedLoop
                  Foreign policy “experts”? Don’t make me laugh.
                  You prefer the wisdom and judgement of the Stable Genius?

                  Or do you find your in-depth foreign policy analysis somewhere else? Where, praytell.
                  David G
                  Harbor Woodworks
                  https://www.facebook.com/HarborWoodworks/

                  "It was a Sunday morning and Goddard gave thanks that there were still places where one could worship in temples not made by human hands." -- L. F. Herreshoff (The Compleat Cruiser)

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                  • LeeG
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2002
                    • 73003

                    #10
                    Re: Foreign Policy: Trump vs. experts

                    Originally posted by John Smith
                    One would think this stuff would eventually get his base's attention.
                    It does, he’s saying what some people are thinking!

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                    • LeeG
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2002
                      • 73003

                      #11
                      Re: Foreign Policy: Trump vs. experts

                      Originally posted by John of Phoenix
                      "There economy is now crashing,"

                      Sweet Mother of God reds are illiterate.
                      they’re, their, there, it’s whatever the Gas Lighter wants it to be. He isn’t misspelling, he’s beyond the elite grammarians and talks straight to the people.

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                      • LeeG
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2002
                        • 73003

                        #12
                        Re: Foreign Policy: Trump vs. experts

                        “They are testing Rockets (last week) and more, and are coming very close to the edge. There economy is now crashing, which is the only thing holding them back”

                        Rockets and more!
                        Coming close to the edge!
                        Crashing economy is the only thing
                        Holding them back!

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                        • Gerarddm
                          #RESIST
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 32546

                          #13
                          Re: Foreign Policy: Trump vs. experts

                          Remember he said he was smarter than the generals too.

                          Gawd help us all if the stuff seriously hits the fan.
                          Gerard>
                          Albuquerque, NM

                          Next election, vote against EVERY Republican, for EVERY office, at EVERY level. Be patriotic, save the country.

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                          • oznabrag
                            Historical Illiterate
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 40890

                            #14
                            Re: Foreign Policy: Trump vs. experts

                            Originally posted by John of Phoenix
                            "There economy is now crashing,"

                            Sweet Mother of God reds are illiterate.
                            I'm pretty sure it was Coats I heard talking on NPR yesterday about NK.

                            The man said "nucular" at least twice.

                            Only the best people.
                            Rattling the teacups.

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                            • PhaseLockedLoop
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 3455

                              #15
                              Re: Foreign Policy: Trump vs. experts

                              Originally posted by David G
                              You prefer the wisdom and judgement of the Stable Genius?
                              I don’t see no wisdom there.

                              Or do you find your in-depth foreign policy analysis somewhere else? Where, praytell.
                              I look at the disastrous results of the last thirty years of expertise. I came of age in ‘65, and got a bellyful of tangleheaded lies from our sainted experts.

                              Which experts are you attending to?
                              The Case is Altered

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