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David G
11-25-2018, 09:47 PM
Several of my faves on this list. They don't delve into technical pens - which is part of my arsenal. But there are a few I might try...

http://nymag.com/strategist/article/best-pens-gel-ballpoint-rollerball-felt-fountain.html?utm_campaign=nym&utm_medium=s1&utm_source=fb&fbclid=IwAR3gfv3UnLQvsgKK0OsJXDpyKuNMxgfvKHvL9BIbk LbpVzUx84P8HkSwBJc

L.W. Baxter
11-25-2018, 09:49 PM
"I bought a seven-dollar pen because I kept losing pens and I got sick of not caring." --Mitch Hedburg

Breakaway
11-25-2018, 09:52 PM
I can remember when Cross or Parker and other pens were common gift items. Are pens still a gift, " thing?"

Kevin

CWSmith
11-25-2018, 10:04 PM
I lost my favorite Parker fountain pen back in 1978. I still miss it. The newer ones don't seem to be quite the same.

I did recently purchase a Henzin fountain pen made of walnut at Amazon. It was only $18 and I rather like it.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61qwIZHMZ4L._SX425_.jpg

David G
11-25-2018, 11:22 PM
I'm thinking I'll try one of these --

2. OHTO Horizon Needle Point Knock — Best Ballpoint


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Type: Ballpoint (Best in Category)
Smoothness: 5 | Smudging: 5 | Bleed-through: 5 | Feel: 5 | Looks: 5
If you’re most comfortable writing with a 0.5 mm. (or even 0.3 mm.) mechanical pencil, you will feel right at home using this Japanese needlepoint pen (though its point is actually 0.7 mm.). The ink comes out clean and even, yielding the thinnest, smoothest line; there’s no smudging or skipping. You’ll be amazed at how small you can write with this thing. The pen itself feels sturdy, but not too heavy. It somehow seems like gripping it would be slippery, but that wasn’t an issue. The cerulean blue, hexagonal-tube design is elegant, but in a retro way — it’s easy to imagine some ’60s-era person at, like, IBM or NASA tucking it into a shirt pocket. And the side-click-release is both discreet-looking and extremely satisfying. — S.K.
Total Score: 5


And... maybe a package of these for the shop --


6. Schneider Slider Memo XB Medium

https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/strategist/2018/11/15/top-100-pens/slider-memo.w710.h473.2x.jpg (https://www.amazon.com/Schneider-Slider-Memo-Ballpoint-150203/dp/B0040K7OBE/ref=sr_1_1?s=office-products&ie=UTF8&qid=1542038352&sr=1-1&keywords=slider%20memo&ascsubtag=[]st[p]cjoiqt0tk0068m9yeiqdcv69yveQXob[z]m[d]T&tag=thestrategistsite-20)
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Type: Ballpoint
Smoothness: 5 | Smudging: 5 | Bleed-through: 5 | Feel: 4.5 | Looks: 4.5
As far as disposable ballpoints go, the Schneider Slider Memo XB is really impressive. This pen is [I]smooth. Like, really smooth. Almost disarmingly smooth. It really glides effortlessly, with minimal pressure required. It’s basically smudge-free. (If you try really hard to smudge just after writing, you can get the slightest smudge, but under normal conditions there should be no smudging at all). And there is no bleed-through. The XB yields a really thick line, so that is something to be aware of. It’s probably best suited for jotting down quick notes, and might present issues if fine lines or neat handwriting are required. Its large size combined with the cap attached to the back and its thick point make the pen slightly difficult to maneuver. It’s sort of like a big, comfortable Cadillac. I gave it a 4 on looks, which I know is potentially controversial. Is it an objectively attractive pen? No, definitely not. It has an unapologetically orthopedic look and a bulbous shape, and the metal clip on the cap is disarmingly wide, but this is all in the service of its function. It’s also wrapped in a comfortable, rubberized coating. — D.N.
Total Score:4.8

oznabrag
11-26-2018, 07:53 AM
Give me my Pilot G-2.

CK 17
11-26-2018, 09:16 AM
Cheap hotel pens for me. Royal sonesta has the best, followed by Hilton and then four points. I haven’t bought a pen since 1982. Your supposed to steal them, it’s part of their advertising budget—just like the ash trays from times gone by.

amish rob
11-26-2018, 09:20 AM
I’d love a good fountain pen. I have this jackanape deal with these little wonky cartridges. Blech. May as well use a disposable pen.

Which, yes, I know I use sharpies. Well, used. I bought the last pack, and when they’re gone, they’re gone...

Peace,
Very Cross

Ian McColgin
11-26-2018, 09:32 AM
I've had the same Pelican with a square nib for years. Every decade or so I must get a new nib. I don't think the reviewer has much experience with fountain pens as he does not seem to understand the point of a gold nib or the fact that a new nib will take a bit of writing before it's accustomed to your hand. Because the nib becomes so individual, I don't lend my pen to anyone, ever.

cs
11-26-2018, 09:34 AM
I used to use the Zebra G-301 exclusively for work, but then I had a hard time finding my journals I use in the field so I switched it all over to Rite-in-the-Rain. I had used their products for years in the military and was pleased. So I picked up the hard back journals and the pen. Not for the faint of heart but well worth it (IMHO).

https://d163axztg8am2h.cloudfront.net/static/img/92/88/91ee39f0ebd8b47e9f4b6a48a386.jpg

https://www.riteintherain.com/black-metal-clicker-pen

Chad

Canoez
11-26-2018, 09:43 AM
Older version of this animal without the stylus top. Great pen.

https://www.spacepen.com/M4BSmatteblack-cap-o-maticpen-wstylus.aspx

David G
11-26-2018, 09:45 AM
Give me my Pilot G-2.

My basic pen. The cream of the crop at the supermarket rack.


I used to use the Zebra G-301 exclusively for work, but then I had a hard time finding my journals I use in the field so I switched it all over to Rite-in-the-Rain. I had used their products for years in the military and was pleased. So I picked up the hard back journals and the pen. Not for the faint of heart but well worth it (IMHO).

https://d163axztg8am2h.cloudfront.net/static/img/92/88/91ee39f0ebd8b47e9f4b6a48a386.jpg

https://www.riteintherain.com/black-metal-clicker-pen

Chad

When I need a skinny-bodied pen, I usually get a Zebra F301.

cs
11-26-2018, 09:49 AM
My wife likes the Zebra F301. When I started using the Rite-in-the-Rain journals at work I went ahead and picked up the pen. It doesn't smear like other pens will in the books and if it rains you can still write and your book won't fall apart.

https://d163axztg8am2h.cloudfront.net/static/img/4b/66/ceeb4682085b75393d22b37f5e77.jpg


Chad

Andrew Craig-Bennett
11-26-2018, 10:17 AM
I suggest that a really good fountain pen made when fountain pens were in everyday use - between 100 and 50 years ago - may often be the best buy, because they were made to work..

My everyday pen. Parker Vacumatic, made in Canada for the British Empire market (tariffs!) in the first quarter of 1938.

https://i.postimg.cc/wTtTRJww/6-ED1-DA86-2175-47-F8-99-E5-5-BB93-D0-EBE7-E.jpg (https://postimg.cc/mtsG0cf9)

Picked it up cheap on ebay as it had been repaired with the "wrong" filler pump, and it is in poor cosmetic condition. It has a fine, flexible nib which always starts. Parker's most expensive pens of this era had rhodium plating over the 14ct gold nibs.

I got into fountain pens when trying to improve my sons' handwriting, buying cheap ones and repairing them. It's a hobby which can lead to a form of collecting addiction. Don't ask me how I know this... these are all Parker Vacumatics made in the USA between 1936 and 1938... this is the full set of Vacumatic models in "silver pearl" colour scheme..

http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/uploads/monthly_04_2018/post-142010-0-60021200-1523455341.jpeg

The second up from the bottom is incredibly rare. In fact so rare that it cured me of the collecting habit. It's a Parker Vacumatic Oversize Slender with reverse trim. It does not get used. It sits in a drawer and gets gloated over.

CWSmith
11-26-2018, 10:45 AM
Older version of this animal without the stylus top. Great pen.

https://www.spacepen.com/M4BSmatteblack-cap-o-maticpen-wstylus.aspx

I buy some space pens every year for some students, but I like the short bullet size (and in black).

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/shopping?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ8vpjkuAoGmxdyV8HSGD2tHxhTlN5 kiCMsI_qy7UeIYHBFGxWlKbPlktxp521IivM72tLJpQ&usqp=CAE

Canoez
11-26-2018, 10:49 AM
I buy some space pens every year for some students, but I like the short bullet size (and in black).

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/shopping?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ8vpjkuAoGmxdyV8HSGD2tHxhTlN5 kiCMsI_qy7UeIYHBFGxWlKbPlktxp521IivM72tLJpQ&usqp=CAE

Those are nice, but I like having the clip.

StevenBauer
11-26-2018, 11:01 AM
I used to use the Zebra G-301 exclusively for work, but then I had a hard time finding my journals I use in the field so I switched it all over to Rite-in-the-Rain. I had used their products for years in the military and was pleased. So I picked up the hard back journals and the pen. Not for the faint of heart but well worth it (IMHO).

https://d163axztg8am2h.cloudfront.net/static/img/92/88/91ee39f0ebd8b47e9f4b6a48a386.jpg

https://www.riteintherain.com/black-metal-clicker-pen

Chad

I really like my Rite-In-The-Rain mechanical pencil. But I guess that’s a whole ‘nother thread...

Figment
11-26-2018, 11:10 AM
Cheap/disposable, but good...

The Pilot Varsity. All of the fun and lineweight variety of a fountain with none of the cleaning hassles.
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2603/2528/products/Pilot-Varsity-Black-NW-3_1500x.jpg?v=1525275125

and the Pentel "Sign Pen". Better feel than a sharpie, and no fear of the permanent consequences.
https://de2wfhoo6xqi5.cloudfront.net/size/600/c15/ba4/8aabbde4a0995c4c8852c9d2760f24c1b6.jpg

Nicholas Scheuer
11-26-2018, 11:29 AM
I'm sufficiently pleased with the Signo Uniball (medium, gel) that I never shop for anything else. I buy 10 at a time because I loose them easily, and I keep pens everywhere, shirt pocket, bathrobe, each desk, car, and truck.

I liked old fountain pens in high school after finding some in a drawer my folks had discarded, a couple going back to their parents. After they all were used up or lost I switched to an economical ink cartridge pen for a few years.

isla
11-27-2018, 04:53 AM
I can remember when Cross or Parker and other pens were common gift items. Are pens still a gift, " thing?"

Kevin

A lot of wood turners make unique and beautiful turned pens using fine hardwoods. I made a few a while back but never got the bug, so I gave my pen-turning tools to my brother who now has a thriving part-time business. If you use one of the better commercial kits for the innards they write very well and they make great gifts.

https://i.etsystatic.com/7637487/r/il/5e96a4/409619349/il_570xN.409619349_29q2.jpg

beam reach
11-27-2018, 05:02 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/wTtTRJww/6-ED1-DA86-2175-47-F8-99-E5-5-BB93-D0-EBE7-E.jpg



I bet that one is nice to use .

Andrew Craig-Bennett
11-27-2018, 06:05 AM
I bet that one is nice to use .

It is. It really is the pen that lives in my shirt pocket and that I use for everything. Vacumatics hold an immense amount of ink, and must never be taken on aircraft with ink in, because the pressure drop in the cabin has a spectacular (!) effect on them... but with that proviso, it goes everywhere with me. It cost me twenty bucks on ebay.

US-made Parkers were made with very firm nibs, so that you could write with a carbon paper underneath to make copies. A few Canadian ones, like this one, have flexible fine nibs. Parkers started to make pens in Britain during WW2 when shipping got a bit difficult (!) and they eventually built a big factory at Newhaven when the BBC kicked them out of Bush House in the Strand, but when this pen was made they were making all pens for sale in the British Empire and Commonwealth in Canada.

beam reach
11-27-2018, 06:23 AM
Thanks for the info Andrew , I`m thinking its time to ditch the ball points , I have some ( if vague ) memories of writing with a fountain pen as a child .

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
11-27-2018, 06:26 AM
It's now very difficult to buy a decent quality new fountain pen with my preferred fine italic nib.

beam reach
11-27-2018, 06:30 AM
Are most of the new pens ( such as on ebay ) mostly rubbish then ?

I`m thinking I will look for a used vintage one like Andrew`s ?

Paul Pless
11-27-2018, 06:40 AM
Give me my Pilot G-2.same here brother, didn't even make the top thirty

oznabrag
11-27-2018, 07:44 AM
same here brother, didn't even make the top thirty
Too bad for them.

Pilot G-2 IS the top ten!

Shang
11-27-2018, 08:19 AM
I can remember when Cross or Parker and other pens were common gift items. Are pens still a gift, " thing?"

Kevin


My In-laws gave me a MontBlanc fountain pen when I graduated with a doctorate. I still use it from time to time on things such as birthday greetings. That model is no longer made, but the company still honors their life-time guarantee. I dropped mine on a hard tile floor and cracked the cover, MontBlanc took it back and replaced the cover, and the nib, which they said was showing uneven wear.

I'm told that the pen's over the counter price is about what I paid for my first car.