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Paul Pless
10-11-2018, 05:31 PM
unless they have a custom carbon fibre body cloaking the 1650HP V8. . .

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John Meachen
10-11-2018, 05:36 PM
Is there a mile or two of NASCAR type scaffolding beneath the carbon?

Paul Pless
10-11-2018, 05:39 PM
mercury marine 9 liter offshore racing v8
twin turbo dohc 4 valve per cylinder

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Paul Pless
10-11-2018, 05:40 PM
Is there a mile or two of NASCAR type scaffolding beneath the carbon?yeah its on a nascar style chassis

John Meachen
10-11-2018, 05:43 PM
yeah its on a nascar style chassis

Must be the only one of those that doesn't have pushrods!

Seriously,it would be good to see thirty or so of those racing and I bet they would sound good.

Paul Pless
10-11-2018, 05:47 PM
they run 26 pounds of boost on the motor!

mmd
10-11-2018, 05:48 PM
No.

Just... no.

Exposed carbon fibre is overdone. Why is there a hood scoop originally designed for a Chev on this car? What is that 1969 Ford Torino grille doing on a Charger?

At least they got the stance right.

A triple-black '68 Charger is, IMHO, one of the most attractive muscle cars ever designed - DO NOT MESS WITH THE BODY!! To change it is sacrilege, akin to putting '57 Chev Bel Air fins on a Shelby Cobra...

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/382556247505-0-1/s-l1000.jpg

John Meachen
10-11-2018, 05:55 PM
I agree about the exposed carbon,there is far too much of it around.I don't see why they shouldn't use things we have learned over the years to extract all the performance potential the car might have though.Lots of historic cars benefit from better oils and tyre compounds to exceed their original performance.At which point they might benefit from better brakes too and we have those available if needed.

Paul Pless
10-11-2018, 06:01 PM
Seeing how Speedkore is in the business of making carbon fibre bodies, i'm pretty sure that's why they put it under clear coat for this build, which hit the big time car show starting with SEMA. There's no reason why you couldn't paint yours Michael. :)

Paul Pless
10-11-2018, 06:03 PM
btw, mercury marine will happily sell you one of those motors for $255,000.00. . .

John Meachen
10-11-2018, 06:07 PM
I expect you could buy an adequate amount of power for a fair bit less than that.

Paul Pless
10-11-2018, 06:11 PM
straight from the dodge parts catalog you can buy this for $19K
770 HP

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John Meachen
10-11-2018, 06:15 PM
Much better cost/hp ratio and more than enough power for real world use.

Paul Pless
10-11-2018, 06:16 PM
and it has pushrods :D

John Meachen
10-11-2018, 06:22 PM
I was trying to overlook that....

mmd
10-11-2018, 06:35 PM
From what I have seen on the TV hotrod shows, that hellcat hemi is a very tall motor. Tough to stuff in anything low to the ground without a bunch of it sticking out above the fenders. S'posed to be a good motor, though - not much fiddling with it needed between regular service intervals.

Breakaway
10-11-2018, 06:40 PM
btw, mercury marine will happily sell you one of those motors for $255,000.00. . .



Not to be pedantic, but its technically by Mercury Racing, a skunkworks-like division of Mercury.

Just sayin.

Kevin


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Joe (SoCal)
10-11-2018, 06:51 PM
God Damn that is a beautiful machine.

It brings me back to my first car. My Mom worked as a cocktail waitress at The Yorkshire Inn on Kinderkamack Rd next to a used car dealer. A customer had the hots for my mom and made a deal on a 1969 Pontiac GTO ( The Judge ) in purple ;) After that my mother married respectable and lived in the country club set and I "inherited" the GTO as my first car. ;) OH WHAT A CAR IT WAS


https://ugc.kn3.net/i/origin/http://www.classiccarmall.com/uploadedImages/295.jpg

Canoeyawl
10-11-2018, 07:03 PM
and it has pushrods :D

In 1966 the Ford 427 (pushrods) was limited to 550hp for Lemans, but can be coaxed to about 700 horsepower without a supercharger. 1000 hp is doable with a pump. Just sayin'... I like pushrod engines!

mmd
10-11-2018, 07:14 PM
Joe, when I was just barely legally-licenced, my next-door neighbour had a '70 GTO with a 455 cu. in., 4-speed Muncie, Holley 4bbl double-pumper, 3.90 ratio rear end and all the "Judge" fixin's except the stripes & badging. Light green mist with dark green interior and vinyl roof. The fact that his petite wife drove it around town with two kids in the back had the local cops believing that it was a creampuff. Ron was kind and crazy enough to think that he needed to teach me how to drive it as it was intended. Oh, lord, did I thrash that car - with the owner in the passenger seat, grinning like an idiot!

Bob (oh, THAT Bob)
10-11-2018, 07:59 PM
God Damn that is a beautiful machine.

It brings me back to my first car. My Mom worked as a cocktail waitress at The Yorkshire Inn on Kinderkamack Rd next to a used car dealer. A customer had the hots for my mom and made a deal on a 1969 Pontiac GTO ( The Judge ) in purple ;) After that my mother married respectable and lived in the country club set and I "inherited" the GTO as my first car. ;) OH WHAT A CAR IT WAS


https://ugc.kn3.net/i/origin/http://www.classiccarmall.com/uploadedImages/295.jpg

HOLY FUDGE! Even has a hood with Dzus fasteners for easy lift-off. You have led a charmed life.

Was that a factory color? I see listed a burgundy but it looks more deep red than purple. MOPAR did offer muscle cars in that color (and other similarly bright ones); Plymouth called them High-Impact colors and that one was In Violet, Dodge called them High-Performance colors and that one was Plum Crazy, but automotive journalists quietly referred to both as Statutory Grape.

Canoeyawl
10-11-2018, 09:16 PM
For my money the '64 GTO with the Tri-power, 4speed option is the one to have. I had a friend that bought one brand new (black) when we were in high-school.
I think every small town in America had an illegal drag strip back then.

https://butlerperformance.com/images/F145286182

hawkeye54
10-11-2018, 09:42 PM
If I recall, the Niles, Illinois police department (circa 1965 - 1968) used to use cars like these as unmarked police vehicles - you could not recognize them as police cars, and you sure could not outrun them !!

Sailor
10-11-2018, 11:00 PM
I'd lean toward the 70 Roadrunner Superbird if I couldn't have a 65 Shelby Cobra 427 SC.

Canoeyawl
10-11-2018, 11:16 PM
1975, I had a '68 Dodge Super Bee, 383 - 4 speed...

Jim Bow
10-11-2018, 11:37 PM
My neighbor's charger only weighs 20 pounds. It's for his Tesla.