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AndyG
10-08-2018, 09:32 AM
There's one thing that bugs me about most modern thrillers, horror stories and sci-fi films. It is that bit near the end, you know the part, when the bad guy's been defenestrated in a hail of bullets, or the evil killer has been impaled on a stake, or the raging xenomorph has been blasted by blasters, and all the good guys chill out a bit, do some air-punching, or have a good-guy manly hug, and then the bad guy/evil killer/xenomorph just gets up like some unstoppable zombie to carry on as if nothing has happened. Cue the same-old for another ten minutes of relentless repetition.

I really hate it.

Andy ;)

amish rob
10-08-2018, 09:52 AM
Try being the protagonist! :D

Peace,
Will You Just Die, Already, Hydra? How Many Heads Must I Remove?!

AndyG
10-08-2018, 10:00 AM
Agree. An oxyacetylene torch should always be used on the monster prior to celebrating.

I'm not sure the particular monster in question is oxyacetyleney torchable. It just keeps bobbing back up - rather like the result of the badly working toilet.

Andy

Jim Bow
10-08-2018, 11:08 AM
And why doesn't the bad guy just shoot the good guy instead of standing there explaining everything?

Hwyl
10-08-2018, 11:08 AM
Storytelling has always been like that, it's the same plot line as the Mabinogion (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mabinogion).

amish rob
10-08-2018, 11:11 AM
PDI.

“Plot” demands it. :)

Peace,
Robert

Beowolf
10-08-2018, 11:22 AM
There's one thing that bugs me about most modern thrillers, horror stories and sci-fi films. It is that bit near the end, you know the part, when the bad guy's been defenestrated in a hail of bullets, or the evil killer has been impaled on a stake, or the raging xenomorph has been blasted by blasters, and all the good guys chill out a bit, do some air-punching, or have a good-guy manly hug, and then the bad guy/evil killer/xenomorph just gets up like some unstoppable zombie to carry on as if nothing has happened. Cue the same-old for another ten minutes of relentless repetition.

I really hate it.

Andy ;)

In a movie involving “Blasters,” I think you’ve got bigger unscientific fish to fry.

John Smith
10-08-2018, 11:43 AM
And why doesn't the bad guy just shoot the good guy instead of standing there explaining everything?

Or putting them into some strange death sentence as they always put Batman in.

David W Pratt
10-08-2018, 02:26 PM
Was it Arnold who said "If it bleeds we can kill it"?

amish rob
10-08-2018, 02:40 PM
https://youtu.be/fp9DHzgr758

Peace,
Get To Zee Choppah

WX
10-08-2018, 05:12 PM
Fight scenes annoy me. They go on too long and no one can withstand the level of punishment that is portrayed.

skuthorp
10-08-2018, 05:57 PM
It was always thus, watch old Tom Mix westerns. Its all theatre.

I worked in a rail laying gang at one stage, remote. There were always 'fights' between drunks, 3 swings and everyone falls down. Injuries were almost accidental. That was theatre as well.

John Smith
10-08-2018, 06:43 PM
My pet peeve is today's shows where the bad guys, armed with super automatic weapons, can't ever seem to kill any of the good guys, but the good guys manage to kill all the bad guys.

skuthorp
10-08-2018, 07:32 PM
Theatre, and the gun lobby likely loves it. The "good guy" always wins.

sharpiefan
10-08-2018, 08:25 PM
Being an Evil Overlord seems to be a good career choice. It pays well, there are all sorts of perks and you can set your own hours. However every Evil Overlord I've read about in books or seen in movies invariably gets overthrown and destroyed in the end. I've noticed that no matter whether they are barbarian lords, deranged wizards, mad scientists or alien invaders, they always seem to make the same basic mistakes every single time. With that in mind, allow me to present...
The Top 100 Things I'd Do
If I Ever Became An Evil Overlord


The Evil Overlord List (LINK) (http://www.eviloverlord.com/lists/overlord.html)


#include [ std-disclaimer ]

oznabrag
10-08-2018, 09:00 PM
The thing that bothers me most about the modern 'action' movie is that the hero and/or bad guy gets hit with blows that would hospitalize any human, then gets up to save the day.

I've never tried it (thank god) but if one smashes a length of pipe into the brain-pan of another human, he's not gonna get up and run 3 miles and then have a martial arts battle with a dozen heavily armed, heavily-trained opponents.

No.

If he doesn't die immediately, he's on a years-long road to a partial recovery.

I'm not of the 'violins on television (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZLeaSWY37I)' camp, but when people see this sort of thing over and over, and then the circumstances of their lives demand combat, IMO they are much more likely to seriously injure or kill someone, just because they saw it in the movies.

"Gee, officer, I had no idea that smashing his head in would actually kill him!"

John Smith
10-09-2018, 07:50 AM
The thing that bothers me most about the modern 'action' movie is that the hero and/or bad guy gets hit with blows that would hospitalize any human, then gets up to save the day.

I've never tried it (thank god) but if one smashes a length of pipe into the brain-pan of another human, he's not gonna get up and run 3 miles and then have a martial arts battle with a dozen heavily armed, heavily-trained opponents.

No.

If he doesn't die immediately, he's on a years-long road to a partial recovery.

I'm not of the 'violins on television (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZLeaSWY37I)' camp, but when people see this sort of thing over and over, and then the circumstances of their lives demand combat, IMO they are much more likely to seriously injure or kill someone, just because they saw it in the movies.

"Gee, officer, I had no idea that smashing his head in would actually kill him!"

I agree. Cases in point are both NCIS Los Angeles and NCIS New Orleans.

Last season ended with all four LA agents in vehicle that got blown up. Magically, they all survived, albeit a bit wounded. NO episode ended last season with Pride being shot three times, close range, by a professional killer. Of course, he magically survived.

Bad guys must be using defective bombs or bullets.

gypsie
10-09-2018, 05:53 PM
The Infinity Wars, latest Avengers movie - bad guy wins.
Goes through the cliche's as described, but he wins anyway.

I'm still trying to get to the politics behind the result. Does it reflect something in the US psyche at the moment? Big all powerful being bent on killing half of all living things in the universe (indiscriminately, as in; not along party lines), and not even our most powerful superheroes can do anything to stop it. There's a powerlessness there that is unusual in big action movies.

AndyG
10-10-2018, 03:19 AM
Maybe I was being too subtle in my OP?


"The true definition of madness is repeating the same action, over and over, hoping for a different result." - Albert Einstein


"The devyl playeth ofte with the synnar, lyke as the catte doth with the mous." - William Caxton

Andy

lupussonic
10-10-2018, 06:57 AM
Well it has been yourself, along with one or two others repeating the same action (beating your head against unscientific stupidity) and expecting to make a breakthrough.

AndyG
10-10-2018, 07:16 AM
I lived in hope.

But a week or so ago I finally admitted that there was not going to be even the merest flicker of a (1 watt) 'lightbulb moment' to cheer me up.

...Let the Hydra perish! (How many blinkin' heads has this thing got?)

Andy

AndyG
11-03-2018, 11:04 AM
The Frankentroll has posted something so outrageously, stupidly, insane I feel the burning desire to reply.

But I'm stronger than that.

...I hope.

Wish me luck.

Andy

skuthorp
11-03-2018, 02:49 PM
Our politicians use unscientific stupidity as their stock in trade because many people would rather not believe them. Charlatans have pushed such nonsense in the guise of religion for ever, and people fall over them selves to believe it. It's part of the human condition.

AndyG
11-03-2018, 05:58 PM
That gives me strength, skuthorp, but no peace of mind. :)

webishop14
11-03-2018, 06:53 PM
The real reason for the bad-guy to be resurrected at the end is money. MONEY. As in sequels. "Well, maybe we can kill him in the next movie. Be sure to buy plenty of tickets to find out."

Jim Bow
11-03-2018, 09:38 PM
Fight scenes annoy me. They go on too long and no one can withstand the level of punishment that is portrayed.
Tis been said that Sean Connery and Robert Shaw did some drinking the night before filming the fight scene in "From Russia With Love" and that some of the action was definitely unscripted, some of the damage, too.

https://youtu.be/cBiLSCP95Nk

David W Pratt
11-04-2018, 05:49 AM
IIRC, if you chum a hydra with essence of its prey, it will turn itself inside out

AndyG
11-04-2018, 06:15 PM
The Frankentroll has posted something so outrageously, stupidly, insane I feel the burning desire to reply.

But I'm stronger than that.

...I hope.

Wish me luck.

Andy

Oh ffs.

Please make it stop.

Andy

skuthorp
11-04-2018, 07:01 PM
Why the heck is anyone taking any notice?

Decourcy
11-04-2018, 09:10 PM
Why the heck is anyone taking any notice?
Its a scab. It itches.

AndyG
11-06-2018, 05:07 PM
As Wolfgang Pauli once said:

Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig; es ist nicht einmal falsch!

"That is not only not right; it is not even wrong!"

Wise words in crazy times.

Andy

robm
11-06-2018, 06:35 PM
A-Team - A helicopter full of baddies hits a cliff at 100 MPH, and they all jump out and run away. No different to Wiley Coyote.

RFNK
11-06-2018, 08:02 PM
Fight scenes annoy me. They go on too long and no one can withstand the level of punishment that is portrayed.

Well, no one who lives on the North Coast can.

Rick

RFNK
11-06-2018, 08:06 PM
Andy, you must really hate South Park!

Rick