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Ian McColgin
10-05-2018, 07:39 AM
Sen. Heidie Heidkamp.

CWSmith
10-05-2018, 08:23 AM
The pundits will argue over the next few days whether she is doing it for her convictions or votes, but I still admire her if she stands firm.

I'm till waiting to see if Collins shows any backbone.

S.V. Airlie
10-05-2018, 08:24 AM
The pundits will argue over the next few days whether she is doing it for her convictions or votes, but I still admire her if she stands firm.

I'm till waiting to see if Collins shows any backbone.Is the Linguini cooked yet?

Ian McColgin
10-05-2018, 09:20 AM
Very very red state with something like 60% voters in favor of Kavanaugh. If there's a political calculation it's along the lines she's toast anyway so go with the beau geste. I hope people like the ever evasive Sen. Collins take a lesson.

amish rob
10-05-2018, 09:24 AM
Political courage sounds like an oxymoron. :)

I heard about this yesterday.

Seems like it’s gonna be a squeaker, either way.

Peace,
Robert

elf
10-05-2018, 09:28 AM
Collins has a big war chest against her just waiting for her "Yes" vote. Personally, I think she may have tried the patience of Maine voters to the breaking point already, and I'd be willing to take bets she'll vote "yes" and announce her retirement sometime in the next month.

Just as with reporting sexual assault, she's a "go along to get along" type. A Regressive caught between the hardscrabble down easters and sophisticated up-scale Portland.

elf
10-05-2018, 09:29 AM
Heitkamp's a DINO. She might as well change parties, if you ask me.

Ian McColgin
10-05-2018, 09:40 AM
One does wonder if she even knows the socialist origins of the Nonpartisan League part of her state party's name.

CWSmith
10-05-2018, 09:44 AM
Very very red state with something like 60% voters in favor of Kavanaugh. If there's a political calculation it's along the lines she's toast anyway so go with the beau geste. I hope people like the ever evasive Sen. Collins take a lesson.

You're right. I only briefly saw an article and must have misread it.

Meanwhile, here is a very clear statement in the Washington Post of the courage she is showing:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/opinions/wp/2018/10/04/the-revealing-reaction-to-heidi-heitkamps-no/?utm_term=.9566f0e95333

Nicholas Scheuer
10-05-2018, 11:23 AM
The pundits will argue over the next few days whether she is doing it for her convictions or votes, but I still admire her if she stands firm.

I'm till waiting to see if Collins shows any backbone.

Apparently you know little about her race for reelection, or her State, or Trump's margin in the last election.

Chris Smith porter maine
10-05-2018, 12:07 PM
I will be stunned if she voted no, I will be even more stunned if she retired in 2020. The fund for her future opponent is almost 2 million. Susan Collins always seems to disappoint, she has moved to the right over the last ten years.

https://www.crowdpac.com/campaigns/387413/either-sen-collins-votes-no-on-kavanaugh-or-we-fund-her-future-opponent

David G
10-05-2018, 12:08 PM
Murkowski says she'll vote no.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/lisa-murkowski-declares-brett-kavanaugh-160946240.html

C. Ross
10-05-2018, 12:18 PM
Heidkamp's vote seems entirely conscience driven, and political suicide.

She's what they used to call a "Blue Dog Democrat". We have had members of congress like that in MN, and they deserve respect not scorn. Moderates are scorned but it's a much harder position to hold with conscience than either left or right. Buddha is right...enlightenment is in the "middle way".

Chris Smith porter maine
10-05-2018, 02:53 PM
Feckless Susie is voting to confirm...

George Jung
10-05-2018, 03:13 PM
Is that spelled correctly?

David G
10-06-2018, 01:45 PM
Confirming Kavanaugh: A Triumph for Conservatives, but a Blow to the Court’s Image

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/06/us/politics/conservative-supreme-court-kavanaugh.html



WASHINGTON — For President Trump and for Senate Republicans, confirming Judge Brett M. Kavanaugh as a Supreme Court justice will be a hard-won political victory. But for the conservative legal movement, it is a signal triumph, the culmination of a decades-long project that began in the Reagan era with the heady goal of capturing a solid majority on the nation’s highest court.

Once Judge Kavanaugh is sworn in, the Supreme Court will be more conservative than at any other time in modern history. By some measures, “we might be heading into the most conservative era since at least 1937,” said Lee Epstein (https://law.wustl.edu/faculty_profiles/profiles.aspx?id=10166), a law professor and political scientist at Washington University in St. Louis.