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CWSmith
10-05-2018, 07:15 AM
If Kavanaugh is confirmed, impeachment could follow.
Here’s how.



The countdown to the Senate vote on Supreme Court nominee Brett M. Kavanaugh is underway.

A limited FBI investigation (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/as-fbi-background-check-of-kavanaugh-nears-its-end-probe-appears-to-have-been-highly-curtailed/2018/10/03/2fa4e93e-c72f-11e8-9b1c-a90f1daae309_story.html) into sexual assault claims against the federal judge is done. The agency’s report was sent to the White House on Wednesday, and lawmakers began reviewing it Thursday morning. With some swing-vote senators expressing satisfaction (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/senators-prepare-to-review-fbi-report-on-kavanaugh-after-early-morning-arrival/2018/10/04/394dbaf8-c7be-11e8-b2b5-79270f9cce17_story.html?utm_term=.4471b5fcc77b) after their initial reads of the report, the odds appear to be increasing for Kavanaugh’s confirmation to a lifetime appointment to the nation’s highest court.


So what comes next?

In early September, even before the recent spate of sexual misconduct allegations, murmurs among Kavanaugh opponents fixated on whether he had lied under oath before the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Some Senate Democrats took to social media to air their ire (https://twitter.com/SenatorLeahy/status/1038425971341381633?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1038425971341381633&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2018%2F09% 2F07%2Fus%2Fpolitics%2Fbrett-kavanaugh-confirmation-hearings.html)and frustration (https://twitter.com/senatedems/status/1037397867109994496?lang=en). One former deputy assistant U.S. attorney general, who previously worked for a top Democrat, even called for Kavanaugh’s impeachment from the federal judiciary.


“Much of Washington has spent the week focusing on whether Judge Brett Kavanaugh should be confirmed to the Supreme Court,” Lisa Graves wrote in a Slate column on Sept. 7, more than a week before
the New Yorker published (https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/a-sexual-misconduct-allegation-against-the-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaugh-stirs-tension-among-democrats-in-congress)
the then-anonymous sexual assault claims of Christine Blasey Ford. “After the revelations of his confirmation hearings, the better question is whether he should be impeached from the federal judiciary. I do not raise that question lightly, but I am certain it must be raised.”


Graves wrote that Kavanaugh had misled the Judiciary Committee about the stolen documents (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/leahy-says-kavanaugh-was-not-truthful-about-democratic-documents/2018/09/07/babfb4aa-b2d9-11e8-a20b-5f4f84429666_story.html?utm_term=.d8c85342f158) that Graves had written as chief counsel for nominations for Sen. Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.) when he was the chairman of the committee.

Kavanaugh, she wrote, “lied. Under oath. And he did so repeatedly.”

Therefore, she concluded, “he should not be confirmed. In fact, by his own standard, he should clearly be impeached.”

Since Kavanaugh’s testimony about the Ford allegations, other lawmakers (https://twitter.com/SenWarren/status/1047117922035011584) have voiced similar concerns about Kavanaugh’s “integrity” and “dishonesty.”

Graves told The Washington Post on Thursday that each time Kavanaugh testifies, he has shown “only more proclivity to lie to the Senate.”

Whether Kavanaugh returns to the D.C. Circuit or, as appears increasingly likely, is confirmed to the Supreme Court, impeachment proceedings could follow. They would be contingent on Democrats regaining control of the House, the only body that can bring an article of impeachment.

Reps. Luis V. Gutiérrez (D-Ill.) and Ted Lieu (D-Calif.) (https://www.newsweek.com/brett-kavanaugh-impeached-impeachment-supreme-court-1144738)have already flirted with the possibility of impeachment, and Axios recently noted (https://www.axios.com/kavanaugh-vote-impeachment-democrats-ford-d6ba557f-e6dc-4dc7-b560-e7536bd58129.html) that “top Democratic operatives are already talking about impeachment of Brett Kavanaugh as a 2020 campaign issue if he gets confirmed to the Supreme Court,” adding, “A well-known Democratic strategist says the ‘only question is: Who calls for it first?’ ”

At the Constitutional Convention of 1787, the delegates concluded that even those holding the highest office would not be above the law, birthing the American system of impeachment.

Under the Constitution (https://law.justia.com/constitution/us/article-2/48-persons-subject-to-impeachment.html#tc-846), the president, the vice president and “all civil Officers of the United States” (including those in the executive branch, plus federal judges) may be removed from office for “treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.” The procedure for impeaching a president or a federal judge is broadly the same.



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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/if-kavanaugh-is-confirmed-impeachment-could-follow-here’s-how/ar-BBNXfCR?ocid=spartandhp

John Smith
10-05-2018, 09:28 AM
This whole thing has gotten repulsive. If he is not confirmed, the world doesn't end. Trump just nominates another conservative.

Meanwhile, it is not likely the debate ends if he is confirmed. All those people the FBI was not allowed to talk to will be heard. GOP may win this confirmation, but it may cost some of them their seats come Nov.

They will OWN this justice as more s**t comes out.

Personally, I'm disappointed no one questioned his sobriety during his testimony. I'd not be at all surprised if we learn he has a drinking problem still.

CPF
10-05-2018, 06:15 PM
Sounds to me like a great topic to energize Trump's base to get out and vote.

RFNK
10-05-2018, 06:26 PM
Surely the best outcome would be that Kavanaugh is confirmed and appointed and then impeached after the Dems take control of the House? He's clearly impeachable. If he's not confirmed then Trump simply nominates/appoints some other conservative ratbag who is less impeachable and the US is then stuck with a reactionary supreme court. If Kavanaugh is impeached, then a Dem-led house has a better chance of appointing someone with a stronger sense of justice?

Rick

jpatrick
10-05-2018, 08:07 PM
Sounds to me like a great topic to energize Trump's base to get out and vote.


But it's also a great topic to energize all concerned Americans ( of all political viewpoints) that an unqualified and unfit person has been appointed to the Supreme Court and THEY will get out and vote. Right now, I'm betting that the majority are in the second camp.

Jeff

webishop14
10-05-2018, 08:14 PM
The problem with this is that impeaching Kavanaugh will do nothing but waste time and money. The House must bring Articles of Impeachment, and likely will do so should the Democrats take control in 2019. However, this step is merely the presentation of allegations. Kavanaugh, if impeached, would be tried in the Senate. Remember Yertle? He's the boss of the Senate, and likely will remain in control after the midterms. It's not too likely the Democrats will take control. And if memory serves, even should the Democrats take control of the Senate, they would still need a two-thirds vote to convict Kavanaugh. So: exactly how many Republican Senators still have a vestigial spine? Rudimentary gonads? How many are secretly pocketing dark money being funneled through the NRA by Russia? Putin wants Kavanaugh confirmed. Putin will not want Kavanaugh convicted, if impeached. Kavanaugh will not be convicted. Period.

paulf
10-05-2018, 08:17 PM
But it's also a great topic to energize all concerned Americans ( of all political viewpoints) that an unqualified and unfit person has been appointed to the Supreme Court and THEY will get out and vote. Right now, I'm betting that the majority are in the second camp.

Jeff

You would hope. But Americans are fat and lazy, nothing will be done, and the decline will continue until it is unbearable by all. By then the damage will be done and the bastids will have recovered/collected their profits. Then they will set up for another fleasing for the future and we will sit on our collective a$$ until they get it all.

Duncan Gibbs
10-05-2018, 08:31 PM
Personally, I'm disappointed no one questioned his sobriety during his testimony. I'd not be at all surprised if we learn he has a drinking problem still.
I thought it looked a lot like he'd had a big bump of cocaine. Two big, fat lines of the best Columbian marching powder his wage could buy.