View Full Version : North Carolina Literally Passed Laws Against Science on Sea-Level Rises

09-13-2018, 01:12 PM
Money trumps safety again. :(

History is a valuable teacher, but there are some topics it knows nothing about.
So when lawmakers in North Carolina controversially proposed a bill in 2011 to ban scientific predictions of accelerated sea level rise that were inconsistent with outdated "historical data", it literally became a joke.
"If your science gives you a result you don't like, pass a law saying the result is illegal," Stephen Colbert quipped. "Problem solved."
Despite the controversy, an amended version of the bill – known as HB 819 and backed by a business-backed consortium of North Carolina property owners called NC–20 – passed shortly thereafter in 2012.
With the "no-kidding nightmare" of Hurricane Florence now bearing down upon North Carolina and the rest of the east coast, the somber irony in all this is how swiftly NC–20's efforts became so dangerously self-defeating.
The groups' moribund website outlines its major goals in diverting doublespeak: "Science-based environmental regulation" and "Science-based sea-level rise projections".
But above those concerns, their core ideal sits paramount: "Equitable treatment of coastal homeowners in the matter of homeowners and dwelling insurance".
In other words, this was about property values and business interests.
Sadly, the potentially devastating Hurricane Florence – now downgraded to Category 2, although it was feared to become the strongest storm to ever make landfall north of Florida – will not be good for coastal property, and North Carolina's ill-fated law to ignore and deny climate change only comes across as, well, ignorant and denialist.

North Carolina Literally Passed Laws Against Science on Sea-Level Rises (LINK) (https://www.sciencealert.com/you-can-t-outlaw-hurricanes-how-north-carolina-turned-its-back-climate-change-bill-hb-819-nc-20-florence)

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09-13-2018, 01:14 PM
Your country is deeply ill.

09-13-2018, 02:05 PM
Your country is deeply ill.


Is Scotland accepting political refugees from the States?

What is the job market like for a underwriter/risk avoidance analyst?

What is the average price of a 2-3 bedroom home?

|:(Inquiring minds want to know!

09-13-2018, 02:09 PM
Hey, it’s not like anyone gets hurt from denial.

09-13-2018, 02:19 PM
Your country is deeply ill.
Shades of Galileo vs the Catholic church. It's going to bite them bigly over the next couple of days, sadly.


09-13-2018, 02:29 PM
"bite them bigly over the next couple of days"


has for decades.. will for decades more..

Idiocy reigns..

the "Shades of.." analogy is exact.

09-13-2018, 02:43 PM
So, with the hurricanes and flooding of the last few years has the GOP got their head out of the sand?


In most of the world, climate change is settled science.

Not so in the United States. President Trump has called human-made climate change a “hoax perpetuated by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing noncompetitive.” Former House speaker Newt Gingrich has suggested that climate change is the “newest excuse to take control of our lives by left-leaning intellectuals.” Conservative broadcaster Rush Limbaugh called it “one of the most preposterous hoaxes in the history of the planet.”

In fact, the United States is home to more climate-change skeptics than most other countries. Don’t believe me? Take a look at this 2014 graphic, from an Ipsos Mori report. The U.K.-based market research firm surveyed 16,000 people in 20 countries about their attitudes on climate change.

More people in the United States doubt that humans are responsible for climate change than just about any other country. What accounts for this discrepancy?

Our politics. Climate-change denial is a core tenet of one of our two major political parties. Its skepticism is unmatched around the world. A paper from researchers at the University of Bergen in Norway found that among major political parties — even conservative ones — the GOP stands alone in its rejection of the need to tackle climate change. One analysis by PolitiFact agreed that “virtually no Republican” in Washington accepts climate-change science.


CNN)The Trump administration's latest efforts to undo more of Barack Obama's efforts to slow climate change come as no surprise. Nothing gets this President more excited than trying to undo his predecessor's legacy.

But his proposed new EPA rules -- tagged with the laughable misnomer the "Affordable Clean Energy" rule -- are not just vindictive, they are dangerous. The administration wants to allow coal-burning power plants to emit more deadly carbon and to give states greater leeway to allow big-money companies to pollute. The new rules would replace the Obama-era Clean Power Plan, which is aimed at reducing carbon emissions.

The proposal reflects a longstanding and fundamentally damaging idea in right-wing politics: That climate change is a matter of opinion, not fact, and that people who have no interest in the facts still deserve to hold political office.