View Full Version : The Republican stampede to confirm Kavanaugh isn't going as smoothly as hoped

Norman Bernstein
09-06-2018, 09:43 AM
In case you haven't been following the hearings (it's fascinating TV!):

The key controversy is the fact that Grassley has suppressed MOST of Kavanaugh's records when he was working for the White House.... an important part of his history and record.

Democratic senators are rebelling against this unilateral suppression of evidence, and a few are going to release documents which Grassley had declared to be 'confidential'.... and in particular, are willing to be challenged legally for breaking the chairman's ruling.

It is highly unlikely to stop Kavanaugh's confirmation.... but it sure does show how much the Republicans will make up rules to render the hearings a complete joke.

George Jung
09-06-2018, 10:39 AM
Yeah. Scurrilous rats. There's this:

WASHINGTON — As a White House lawyer in the Bush administration, Judge Brett Kavanaugh challenged the accuracy of deeming the Supreme Court’s landmark Roe v. Wade abortion rights decision to be “settled law of the land,” according to a secret email obtained by The New York Times.

The email, written in March 2003 (https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/269-kavanaugh-email-re-whether-roe/e6dbbda94dd204fe02af/optimized/full.pdf#page=1), is one of thousands of documents that a lawyer for President George W. Bush turned over to the Senate Judiciary Committee about the Supreme Court nominee but deemed “committee confidential,” meaning it could not be made public or discussed by Democrats in questioning him in hearings this week. It was among several an unknown person provided to The New York Times late Wednesday.


09-06-2018, 11:15 AM

Mr. Kavanaugh served under Mr. Starr as associate independent counsel between 1994 and 1997, and then again in 1998. Although not yet a judge, he was charged with investigating impartially what Attorney General Janet Reno deemed substantial specific accusations of presidential misconduct arising from a failed real estate investment known as Whitewater.

Judge Starr’s predecessor as independent counsel, Robert Fiske, had looked into unfounded claims that White House Counsel Vincent Foster, who committed suicide in Fort Marcy Park in 1993, had in fact been murdered as part of an alleged White House cover-up related to Whitewater. After a thorough investigation, Mr. Fiske concluded in 1994 that there was nothing to the conspiracy theories and that Mr. Foster, who suffered from depression, had indeed killed himself. Official accounts by the United States Park Service in 1993 and by Republican Congressman William Clinger, the ranking member of the House Government Affairs Committee in 1994, came to an identical conclusion, as did a bipartisan report of the Senate Banking Committee early in 1995.

But shortly after the Senate report was released, Mr. Kavanaugh convinced Mr. Starr to reopen what he called a “full-fledged” investigation of the Foster matter, telling his colleagues, as justification, that “we have received allegations that Mr. Foster’s death related to President and Mrs. Clinton’s involvement” in Whitewater and other alleged scandals.

Who were these unnamed, presumably reliable sources on whose word the case should be reopened? Mr. Kavanaugh’s files in the National Archives make clear that they were some of the most ludicrous hard-right conspiracy-mongers of the time..
Of course, Mr. Kavanaugh proved nothing new, as there was nothing new to prove except in conspiratorial illusion. But there was nothing funny about his Inspector Clouseau performance. For months, his inquiries callously harassed a grieving family and Mr. Foster’s friends. His office spread malicious sexual innuendo about Hillary Clinton, whom he seems to have regarded as prey. By reopening a closed investigation, he irresponsibly gave the Foster conspiracy freaks credibility to continue smearing the Clintons and poison public debate for another three years, all at the taxpayers’ expense.

Perhaps Brett Kavanaugh has changed his ways, just as he has changed his position on subjecting presidents to investigation. But he owes the Senate and the American public an explanation of what happened when he worked under Ken Starr’s cover and how and whether he has become a different man than he was 20 years ago.

09-06-2018, 11:29 AM
Yeah. Scurrilous rats. There's this:


indeed, the public doesn’t need to know these things.


The revelation that Kavanaugh has privately stated views that Roe v. Wade is not settled law, contradicting his statements to the committee this week, has prompted reproductive rights groups to denounce the nominee.

“Brett Kavanaugh’s emails are rock solid evidence that he has been hiding his true beliefs and if he is given a lifetime seat on the Supreme Court, he will gut Roe v. Wade, criminalize abortion, and punish women,” Ilyse Hogue, president of NARAL Pro-Choice America, said in a statement.

John Smith
09-06-2018, 12:50 PM
What's the rush? What are they hiding?

Given the chaos circling around Trump, it seems insanity to conduct this theater, and it is only theater, as the nominee is quite free to not answer anything he would rather not answer.

If we listen to Trump, Kavanaugh MUST have assured Trump that he'll vote to overturn Roe. Otherwise Trump would not have nominated him.

It would be nice if a few Republicans has a bit of integrity; enough to stop this charade.

09-06-2018, 01:19 PM
Kavenaugh just stated that the Justice department can make laws outside of congress.

John Smith
09-06-2018, 01:33 PM
If only the Republicans gave a damn.

Keith Wilson
09-06-2018, 01:55 PM
What's the rush? They desperately want to get another far-right supreme court Justice in place before Trump disintegrates.

Hugh Conway
09-06-2018, 02:05 PM
They desperately want to get another far-right supreme court Justice in place before Trump disintegrates.

they also need a win to shore up the right-wing base.

09-06-2018, 02:24 PM
He kinda makes a point, an exceedingly stupid one but gosh darn it he tried. And Kavanaugh is thinking “Oh you aren’t helping”


Senator Lindsey Graham grilled Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh on reproductive rights, asking the judge how exactly the high court came to its decision in Roe v. Wade when the founding fathers never talked about abortion in the Constitution.

"Is there any right rooted in the history and traditions of the country where legislative bodies could not intercede on behalf of the unborn before medical viability, is that part of our history?" Graham asked Kavanaugh during the second day of questioning in the judge's confirmation hearing.

"The Supreme Court precedent has recognized the right to abortion, I'm sorry," Kavanaugh responded before he was immediately cut off again by the senator.

"But I'm just saying, what part of the history? I don't think our founding fathers, people mentioned our founding fathers, I don't remember that being a part of American history," Graham said of abortion and a woman's right to choose.

George Jung
09-06-2018, 02:27 PM
Wow. There's a few (alright, damn near all of 'em) senators need to be put out to pasture - and I don't mean for 'stud' service.

09-07-2018, 07:41 AM
Don’t know how significant it is that Bill Burke who is managing Kavanaughs records is also representing a handful of former Trump people, Don McGahn, Reince Priebus, and Steve Bannon.
That Burke is managing Kavanaughs records and not the National Archives is fishy.
Merrick Garland was picked by a president with NO criminal investigations. Gorsuch and Kavanaugh are pushed through by a complicit GOP for a president under multiple investigations and undeniable evidence of his incompetence and instability.


Bill Burck, a private attorney employed by former president George W. Bush and a longtime Republican, is a key linchpin in the process for reviewing Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh’s lengthy paper trail. In fact, he’s running the show — and Democrats see his involvement as yet another sign of how far norms have shifted in the way the Republican majority has conducted Kavanaugh’s confirmation process.

Burck’s name may sound familiar because he’s a deeply entrenched player in Republican legal circles. Not only is he reportedly a longtime friend of Kavanaugh’s, he’s also more recently represented at least three current or former Trump White House officials — Don McGahn, Reince Priebus, and Steve Bannon — regarding special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation. He’s currently a co-managing partner at the law firm Quinn Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan.
If Burck was not running the documents analysis, the politically neutral National Archives and Records Administration would be leading the process. Because NARA has said it would take until the end of October for it to comb through all the documents that Republicans have requested, the Bush White House library offered up a parallel track for digging through some of these archives via a Burck-led team of 50 reviewers. (Former presidents have access to their own administration’s records via the Presidential Records Act.)

David G
09-07-2018, 11:27 AM
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/41020330_2130181383682453_6065882509432848384_n.jp g?_nc_cat=1&oh=9b079c19cea74e5f174ba4806c733daa&oe=5BF0CB13

09-07-2018, 01:15 PM
Depends if they had been destroyed or just being withheld?

09-07-2018, 01:29 PM
Depends if they had been destroyed or just being withheld?

Or whether aliens transported them to another dimension