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S/V Laura Ellen
08-02-2018, 03:30 PM
Does anyone have any experience with controlling the population of geese.
Our launch ramp at the club is being over run with Canada Geese and the amount of goose feces is overwhelming.
I also don't want to scare off the mink that often frequent the area.
What have other people found that works well?

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
08-02-2018, 03:31 PM
Geese are edible.

Chris Smith porter maine
08-02-2018, 03:32 PM
12 gauge works well.

robm
08-02-2018, 03:36 PM
Genglandoh does. One technique is to oil the eggs in the springtime, which kills the eggs and reduces the population. It is too late now for that solution. I am not sure what measures are used in Vancouver, but there are parks there with childless geese.

S/V Laura Ellen
08-02-2018, 03:38 PM
Geese are edible.


12 gauge works well.

It is not legal to hunt Canada Geese during the boating season nor is it legal to hunt within the city limits.

SKIP KILPATRICK
08-02-2018, 03:47 PM
There are goose repellants that you can spray on the lawns. It makes the grass taste unpleasant for geese and they move on to "greener" pastures. You should be able to find it on amazon if you can't get it at the local garden center.

Sometimes decoys can be effective. Popular choices are floating Swan decoys or Coyote silhouettes.

mmd
08-02-2018, 03:50 PM
We have this issue at our lakefront home in springtime. We haven't worked out a permanent nor complete solution, but we have been able to 'train' the local CG to stay away. I am sure that the solution hurts the geese, but does not injure them. After a short period of 'training', they mostly prefer to swim past our lawn and dine on & crap out spring shoots a bit farther down the lake from us.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/f4gAAOSwo4pYPcSo/s-l300.jpg https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Ac0AAOSwnHZYTcfs/s-l300.jpg

The marbles are too big for critters to eat, and not harmful to the environment when they sink to the bottom of the lake. From our deck to the water's edge is both downhill and far enough away that the marble has lost most of it's energy by the time it reaches a goose, so is probably able to hit with as much force as a large hailstone falling out of the sky. Like I said, hurts, but does not injure. We buy the marbles in bags of 100 at the dollar store. Plus, it is a bit of wicked fun to practice with the 'weapon'. Our accuracy rate is less than 10% from a hundred feet away, so the geese don't have much to worry about.

Rich Jones
08-02-2018, 03:58 PM
Do what airports and town parks do. Hire a guy with dogs trained to chase the geese but not hurt them. After a while, the geese will find quieter pastures.
Is anyone feeding these birds? If so, chase them away also!!

Jimmy W
08-02-2018, 03:59 PM
http://www.geesepeace.com/geesepeaceprogram/siteaversion.html

https://nebula.wsimg.com/fa155be0f2568f1aa63905fce4a604cb?AccessKeyId=2DA1F DF0421C0451215C&disposition=0&alloworigin=1

John of Phoenix
08-02-2018, 04:04 PM
"Geese Peace" LOL

goodbasil
08-02-2018, 04:52 PM
http://www.vancouversun.com/technology/Canadian+authorities+looking+control+Canada+geese+ populations/9698073/story.html

Google, Canada Goose Control
Allsorts will come up.
My town they often just shake the eggs.

Art Haberland
08-02-2018, 05:17 PM
We have this issue at our lakefront home in springtime. We haven't worked out a permanent nor complete solution, but we have been able to 'train' the local CG to stay away. I am sure that the solution hurts the geese, but does not injure them. After a short period of 'training', they mostly prefer to swim past our lawn and dine on & crap out spring shoots a bit farther down the lake from us.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/f4gAAOSwo4pYPcSo/s-l300.jpg https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Ac0AAOSwnHZYTcfs/s-l300.jpg

The marbles are too big for critters to eat, and not harmful to the environment when they sink to the bottom of the lake. From our deck to the water's edge is both downhill and far enough away that the marble has lost most of it's energy by the time it reaches a goose, so is probably able to hit with as much force as a large hailstone falling out of the sky. Like I said, hurts, but does not injure. We buy the marbles in bags of 100 at the dollar store. Plus, it is a bit of wicked fun to practice with the 'weapon'. Our accuracy rate is less than 10% from a hundred feet away, so the geese don't have much to worry about.

would ice work too?

mmd
08-02-2018, 05:45 PM
The problem with ice is that it has sharp edges (hard to get round "iceballs" that small) that would cut and injure the birds.

S/V Laura Ellen
08-02-2018, 05:50 PM
Geese are edible.

I'm thinking about building a motion controlled sprinkler system for the two docks being targeted by the geese.
If there is enough pressure on the sprinkler heads, it should just knock them off the dock. A timer would arm the system in the late evening and disarm the system in the early morning.

TomF
08-02-2018, 06:34 PM
Here I assumed this was a #metoo thread.

BrianY
08-02-2018, 06:37 PM
You can protect a floating dock by stringing up a rope or line around the perimeter of the dock about the height of a gallon paint can. This prevents the geese from climbing out of the water onto the dock.

I've seen dog cutouts deployed on lawns and they work for a while until the geese figure out that the "dogs" don't move.

TomF
08-02-2018, 06:47 PM
Lee Valley used to sell a high pressure lawn sprinkler with a motion sensor switch for just such occasions.

Chris Smith porter maine
08-02-2018, 07:21 PM
I'm thinking about building a motion controlled sprinkler system for the two docks being targeted by the geese.
If there is enough pressure on the sprinkler heads, it should just knock them off the dock. A timer would arm the system in the late evening and disarm the system in the early morning.

I would think this one out, first 5 yo you knock off the docks is a lawsuit waiting to happen, here you could get a permit for a more final solution, they are not endangered here.

Jimmy W
08-02-2018, 07:44 PM
I have no experience with these, but they might work. https://www.awaywithgeese.com/

https://reedjoseph.com/products/sight-and-motion/away-with-geese-land-unit/

https://reedjoseph.com/products/image/cache/catalog/products/LAND_UNIT_FINAL_Medium-500x500.jpg

Old Dryfoot
08-02-2018, 07:59 PM
Noise cannons are not that much, and they run on propane so that part is cheap too.
https://www.margosupplies.com/canada/scare-cannons

gypsie
08-02-2018, 08:05 PM
http://www.anmm.gov.au/bailey
Just keep them too busy and they'll get sick of it....... maybe :)


When i was a teenager on Lough Derg a family of swans laid claim to our little patch of shore. They'd come up on shore and spread their wings out and start hissing - quite intimidating. They were fine when we were 5m or so back, but at the waters edge they just didn't think it was cool.
It was a bit of work avoiding the manic angry birds, chasing us round while we tried to launch our barely held together little wooden boats.
We never tried to drive them away, and nobody ever got hurt.
Only for one summer.

Nicholas Scheuer
08-02-2018, 09:01 PM
I think our city should give ball bats to the homeless so they might dine on goose regularly.

S/V Laura Ellen
08-02-2018, 10:55 PM
I have no experience with these, but they might work. https://www.awaywithgeese.com/

https://reedjoseph.com/products/sight-and-motion/away-with-geese-land-unit/

https://reedjoseph.com/products/image/cache/catalog/products/LAND_UNIT_FINAL_Medium-500x500.jpg

Tried those, didn't work as well as advertised.

Todd Bradshaw
08-03-2018, 01:42 AM
I think our city should give ball bats to the homeless so they might dine on goose regularly.

I actually kind of agree with this one. The darned things are over-populated since they no longer face any natural predators, and in some cases, they're even too lazy to leave in the winter. We frequently drive past a couple of local soccer fields that are actually storm water drainage overflow basins, which work surprisingly well. One day, it rains like crazy and they're ponds. The next day they have drained and their nice, grass-covered soccer fields. The only bugaboo is that they tend to get covered with geese. If you haven't seen what they leave behind, it isn't all that different from that of a medium sized dog. It must be really fun to run around and play soccer on a field covered with goose poop everywhere. You need latex gloves just to touch the ball and I guess headers might be out of the question.....

genglandoh
08-03-2018, 05:55 AM
Here is the tread about the program I did at a local lake.
It worked well.

http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?177260-I-think-we-are-winning-the-Goose-War&highlight=goose

Iceboy
08-03-2018, 07:04 AM
Dog cut outs have been entertaining people and dogs but not scaring geese for about 3 years here. They are trying conditioning with noise now to no avail. Folks from the university here say that leaving a buffer strip of long grass on the shoreline discourages them from coming ashore at that point because they can't see potential predators. The city is reluctant to try that method. On my morning walks I let my dog shoo them into the water. At our state capitol they herd them into an enclosure and gas them.
I think allowing a few folks with airguns to shoot them for food pantries would be a good solution. Show up in the early morning and head shoot a dozen or so for a few days and they will get the message.

rbgarr
08-03-2018, 07:48 AM
Tried those, didn't work as well as advertised.

A condominium complex in our town has one of the Awaywithgeese units and as far as we can tell it's worked. If you wish to sell yours to me I'd be interested. PM?

Canoeyawl
08-03-2018, 07:51 AM
Dog cut outs have been entertaining people and dogs but not scaring geese for about 3 years here. They are trying conditioning with noise now to no avail. Folks from the university here say that leaving a buffer strip of long grass on the shoreline discourages them from coming ashore at that point because they can't see potential predators. The city is reluctant to try that method. On my morning walks I let my dog shoo them into the water. At our state capitol they herd them into an enclosure and gas them.
I think allowing a few folks with airguns to shoot them for food pantries would be a good solution. Show up in the early morning and head shoot a dozen or so for a few days and they will get the message.

Head shooting a goose is a good trick...

David G
08-03-2018, 08:19 AM
Here I assumed this was a #metoo thread.

<insert proper adjective here> minds think alike. <G>

elf
08-03-2018, 09:04 AM
Real dogs work OK until you stop hiring them. Geese aren't stupid.

Snapping turtles do a good job of controlling population around here.

S/V Laura Ellen
08-03-2018, 09:09 AM
Real dogs work OK until you stop hiring them. Geese aren't stupid.

Snapping turtles do a good job of controlling population around here.

I may be wrong about this, but the concept of introducing snapping turtles into the yacht club basin, where we run a sailling school (focused on dinghy sailing, lasers, opti, etc) might not be the wisest decision.

goodbasil
08-04-2018, 03:34 PM
"City" geese are not very tasty.

genglandoh
08-05-2018, 10:59 AM
Does anyone have any experience with controlling the population of geese.
Our launch ramp at the club is being over run with Canada Geese and the amount of goose feces is overwhelming.
I also don't want to scare off the mink that often frequent the area.
What have other people found that works well?


Sorry I am traveling again and did not have time to respond earlier.

Our town has a small swim lake that was taken over by 50 geese and made the lake unusable.
I decided to put together a plan to reduce the number of geese at the lake.

Step1-Contact the Government Organization responsible for Geese in your area.
Canada Geese are protected and you can get into serious trouble if you do not follow the law.
I contacted the Ohio State Natural Resources about what are the options.
I read the material they provided online and then called the ranger who is responsible for my area.
http://wildlife.ohiodnr.gov/stay-informed/online-articles-amp-features/odnr-division-of-wildlife-online-articles/post/solutions-to-problems-with-geese

Step2-Understand what your goal is.
Our goal was keep the lake open for the summer.
We figured if we kept the number of geese under 20 the lake would be OK.

Step3-Understand the life cycle of geese.

Nesting Season: In late April geese are flying around looking for a safe place to raise their gosling.
Option1 Stop the geese from nesting in your area.
This I think is the best but also the most work for geese control.
I would visit the nesting area, in my case an island, for 2 hours every day for 2 weeks at dusk with my dog.
This way every time a group of geese would want to find a place to nest they would see a live dog and go somewhere else to nest.
Option2 Allow them to nest but stop the eggs from hatching.
You kill the eggs but kept the eggs in the nest so the mother does not lay more eggs.
In Ohio, this requires a permit from the State because you are killing the eggs.
If you get a permit, you can shake the eggs or put petroleum jelly on the eggs.
Shaking kills the egg and petroleum jelly will stop oxygen from getting into the egg killing the egg.
This will stop MORE geese from being born at your location but you will still have the adults.

Molting Season: Once the gosling have hatched, the adults molt and are unable to fly.
So during Molting Season there is nothing you can do to scare the geese away because they can not fly.
The only real option during Molting season is to get a permit from the State and roundup the Geese and goslings.
In Ohio after you round up the geese you MUST kill them, so unless you have tried other methods the State normally will not give you a Goose Roundup Permit.

After Molting Season: Once the goslings and geese can fly again you may have some success in scaring then away but you will need to do it every day until they are gone.

Ideas that I think do not work.


Shoot the Geese Only allowed during hunting season in the fall, so it does not solve the problem.
You can get a special permit but Ohio does not give these out very often.
You also will need to check with the local Government if you are allowed hunt in your area.
Introduce natural predators to your area.
Adding snapping turtles or swans are a bad idea because they will attack kids.
Fake Dog Signs.
Geese will not be fooled.
Pyrotechnics Bottle Rockets
They do not work long term and you must change with the local Government if you can use them.
Other Noise makers
Again they do not work long term and you must change with the local Government if you can use them.


The solution for our lake has been to stop the geese from nesting on the island.
The score so far is
Year 0 - 50 geese the swim beach unusable.
Started the Goose Program-Visiting the nesting area with my dog for 2 weeks.
Year 1 - 0 geese but it took a lot of work (2 hours every day for 3 weeks)
Year 2 - 15 geese the swim beach was open all summer and the work level was smaller
I did not go to the island enough this year because I was traveling.
Year 3 2 adult geese no families.
Year 4 0 geese
Year 5 2 adult geese with 5 gosling-7 total.
Again I did not visit the Island because my dog died before the season started.

Here is a thread that may give you some more info.
Good luck.
http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?177260-I-think-we-are-winning-the-Goose-War&highlight=goose

Breakaway
08-05-2018, 11:37 AM
"City" geese are not very tasty.



Whaddya mean? They taste like Wonder Bread!


Kevin


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Breakaway
08-05-2018, 11:40 AM
Steel. Delivered at high velocity. Approach the municipality's conservation dept. There are permits for nuisance shooting. Usually, you dont do the shooting: a lottery is held for local, licensed hunters and its supervised by your city officials.

Kevin


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