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Mclark1955
07-20-2018, 08:44 PM
Has anyone used copper nails from Old World Distributors? They are two and a half bucks cheaper then Jamestown but Iím leary. Iím thinking about getting a pound and see what they look like.

nedL
07-20-2018, 09:00 PM
They look interesting. The head looks about half way between a common nail and a roofing slate nail. Not ideal, but might be workable. I’ll be interested in hearing about what you find.

Canoeyawl
07-20-2018, 11:08 PM
They look a lot like roofing nails for slate.
In my experience the heads are too large a diameter and too thin for boat building.

Gib Etheridge
07-21-2018, 12:17 AM
That would depend on the use.

For edge nailing strip planking or for laying a couple of layers of veneers over thicker planking where everything is glued thin heads would be a good thing, as in easy to pound in flush.

Maze nails are more expensive than Old World. They have copper ring nail. I called them once and their nails are 100% pure copper, not just plated or alloy.

http://www.oldworlddistributors.com/copper-nails.html

https://www.mazenails.com/nails/1/6/CU*A/roofing/slate-shingles/copper-ring-shank-slating-flashing-nails

Mclark1955
07-21-2018, 07:38 AM
I was worried about the stresses on the thin heads also. I’m afraid they may fold up and pull through. I can see me now out on the water and just like in the old cartoons all the planks piping out straight and down I go. Thanks for the input. I think I’ll stick with the nails from Jamestown.

Jay Greer
07-21-2018, 01:35 PM
I looked them up and, the nails they sell are suited for roofing work and not boat planking. If you are riveting planking to frames, you want either American Copper Boat Nails or Brittish Boat nails. The two differ in that the Amaerican nail has a swelling in the center of the length on two sides and a blunt tip. The Brittish nail has a straight shank with slight cross hatching along the length and a pointed tip. If you are clenching your fastenings then go with the American nail and be sure to align the swelling with the grain of the frame in order to reduce the tendency of causing the frame to split. For riveting, I prefer the Brittish nails and roves as the sharp tip pierces and grabs the cove which insures that the nail and rove stay joined and draw up as the peening is done. Withe the American nail the copper washer has a tendency to dance around and is often lost in the bilge. The Brittish nails grab from the beginning and that makes them easier to work with. The English nails also seem to drive straighter having less tendency to bend. Either way both American and Brittish nails need to be pre-drilled for.

The Tremont Nail Co. has been around for well over 100 years and is still in the business of making American Copper Cut nails.
http://www.tremontnail.com/shopinfo.htm
Davey & Co. Of London England is a source for the Brittish straight copper nails and roves.
http://www.davey.co.uk/
The ship's store at the Wooden Boat Foundation in Port Townsend has both kinds but they are often low on certain sizes due to popular demand.
Jay