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isla
07-15-2018, 12:39 PM
Asked to name the U.S.’s “biggest foe globally” in an interview conducted Saturday and aired Sunday on CBS’s “Face the Nation,” Trump first mentioned the EU, adding that “we have a lot of foes.”

“I think the European Union is a foe, what they do to us in trade,” Trump responded. “Now you wouldn’t think of the European Union, but they’re a foe.”

Trump also listed Russia as a “foe in certain respects” and China as “a foe economically.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-07-15/trump-calls-european-union-a-u-s-foe-citing-trade-tensions

JimD
07-15-2018, 01:06 PM
Good to see he's maintaining the position of lots of enemies. Nothing makes America greater than an endless list of enemies. A book on my shelf from 1986. Anyone else read it?:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51dyCNAzmPL._SL500_SX324_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

Osborne Russell
07-15-2018, 01:18 PM
On behalf of the United States of America, I apologize.

BrianW
07-15-2018, 03:10 PM
The whole 'Foe' part of that interview...


JEFF GLOR: Who is your biggest competitor? Your biggest foe globally right now?

PRESIDENT TRUMP: Well I think we have a lot of foes. I think the European Union is a foe, what they do to us in trade. Now you wouldn't think of the European Union but they're a foe. Russia is foe in certain respects. China is a foe economically, certainly they are a foe. But that doesn't mean they are bad. It doesn't mean anything. It means that they are competitive. They want to do well and we want to do well. And we're starting to do well. You see what's going on we have best unemployment numbers probably that we've ever had. Black unemployment is the lowest level in history. Hispanic unemployment the lowest level in history, Jeff. Women unemployment lowest in 66 years. Our numbers are great. Our GDP numbers are far greater than what they thought.


JEFF GLOR: A lot of people might be surprised to hear you list the EU as a foe before China and Russia?


PRESIDENT TRUMP: No I look at them all look, EU is very difficult. I-I want to tell you. Maybe the thing that is most difficult -- don't forget both my parents were born in EU sectors okay? I mean my mother was Scotland, my father was Germany. And -- you know I love those countries. I respect the leaders of those countries. But -- in a trade sense, they've really taken advantage of us and many of those countries are in NATO and they weren't paying their bills and, you know, as an example a big problem with Germany. Because Germany made a pipeline deal with Russia. Where they're going to be paying Russia billions and billions of dollars a year for energy and I say that's not good, that's not fair. You're supposed to be fighting for someone and then that someone gives billions of dollars to the one you're, you know, guarding against, I think it's ridiculous so I let that be known also this time. I'll tell you what, there's a lot of anger at the fact that Germany is paying Russia billions of dollars. There's a lot of anger. I also think it's a very bad thing for Germany. Because it's like -- what are they waving a white flag?

S.V. Airlie
07-15-2018, 03:15 PM
Trump can't even get his own heritage right. His grandfather was German. Left his homeland to avoid the draft too and after his marriage, was refused back.Tried to go back in 1906 or there about. What a friggin' idiot!

johnw
07-15-2018, 03:16 PM
The whole 'Foe' part of that interview...
Man, he can't even get his own ancestry right. Fred Trump was born in New York, not Germany.

Anyway, thanks for posting that. It dispels any thought that Trump might have been taken out of context.

Garret
07-15-2018, 03:18 PM
The whole 'Foe' part of that interview...

In some ways - seeing the whole thing makes it worse.

I have lots of competitors. None are foes. Of course we all do business honorably - which Trump would never understand.

S.V. Airlie
07-15-2018, 03:18 PM
Man, he can't even get his own ancestry right. Fred Trump was born in New York, not Germany.

Anyway, thanks for posting that. It dispels any thought that Trump might have been taken out of context.Beat me to it. Avoiding the draft is apparently hereditary.

skuthorp
07-15-2018, 03:46 PM
The US has always need a 'foe' as a distraction from internal problems, even if it needs to invent one.

Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia and Eastasia…………..

Garret
07-15-2018, 03:49 PM
The US has always need a 'foe' as a distraction from internal problems, even if it needs to invent one.

Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia and Eastasia…………..

As I was reading your first sentence I was thinking your second...

bamamick
07-15-2018, 07:12 PM
It continues to amaze me that this man is let out in public.

Mickey Lake

BrianW
07-15-2018, 07:19 PM
In some ways - seeing the whole thing makes it worse.

I have lots of competitors. None are foes. Of course we all do business honorably - which Trump would never understand.

Well, Trump is an idiot. ;)

He was fed the term "foe" by the interviewer, and he ran with it. Interviewers, who have days to think up those kind of questions, are able to lead him into saying just about anything.

But the rest of his statement indicates he's talking on about economics, nothing more sinister.

skuthorp
07-15-2018, 07:22 PM
For the POTUS thoughts and words, all of them, are very important. This incumbent seems to have no control at all of either.

paulf
07-15-2018, 07:25 PM
Well, Trump is an idiot. ;)

He was fed the term "foe" by the interviewer, and he ran with it. Interviewers, who have days to think up those kind of questions, are able to lead him into saying just about anything.

But the rest of his statement indicates he's talking on about economics, nothing more sinister.

;);) Fed the term foe.....ran with it...lead him into just about anything...ya right he's on top of all this....

BrianW
07-15-2018, 07:26 PM
For the POTUS thoughts and words, all of them, are very important. This incumbent seems to have no control at all of either.

It's clearly a yuge weak point. Tremendous, beautiful, and fantastic weak point. :)

paulf
07-15-2018, 07:28 PM
It's clearly a yuge weak point. Tremendous, beautiful, and fantastic weak point. :)

:):) beautiful...

gypsie
07-15-2018, 08:36 PM
The man is an idiot supreme.

PeterSibley
07-15-2018, 08:50 PM
Pity the USA.

19509

Garret
07-15-2018, 08:54 PM
The real quote is:


The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

"fool and complete narcissistic" has been added by someone.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/mencken-white-house-quote/

paulf
07-15-2018, 08:58 PM
The real quote is:



"fool and complete narcissistic" has been added by someone.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/mencken-white-house-quote/

Hay, but ya gotta admit, has a ring to it...

Garret
07-15-2018, 09:03 PM
Hay, but ya gotta admit, has a ring to it...

It does, but he nailed it with his real statement... ;)

Using it about Trump really is an insult to morons though.

Hugh Conway
07-15-2018, 09:06 PM
But the rest of his statement indicates he's talking on about economics, nothing more sinister.

only sinister in his utter ignorance of it.

skuthorp
07-15-2018, 09:09 PM
Re being fed words, like "foe". I bet he hadn't heard of it before then…………….

Of course if a journalist can feed him words, and Kimmy did quite well in that. Imagine what Vlad will do to his vocabulary……….. without a translator
But will Vlad adopt these from Donald?……..
Огромный, красивый и фантастический

isla
07-16-2018, 04:40 AM
Well, Trump is an idiot. ;)

He was fed the term "foe" by the interviewer, and he ran with it. Interviewers, who have days to think up those kind of questions, are able to lead him into saying just about anything.

But the rest of his statement indicates he's talking on about economics, nothing more sinister.

Economic concerns can be a driver for war, but more importantly they can be used to 'stoke the fire', to generate an 'us and them' climate. That can be sinister depending on how much the opposing leaders push each other.

In general, access to distant markets and scarce resources, imperialism, concerns about the impact of economic interdependence and population growth have been the most common economic causes of the outbreak of international wars, while the ‘greed’ and the exacerbation of ‘grievances’ are considered to be the main motivations for internal conflicts.

https://pesd.princeton.edu/?q=node/246

I think that the 'exacerbation of grievances' comment above is definitely something Trump is guilty of.

WX
07-16-2018, 05:56 AM
On behalf of the United States of America, I apologize.

Ah can you speak for the rest of the 326,000,000? :)

Jim Mahan
07-16-2018, 06:30 AM
326,000,000?

325,999,999

John Smith
07-16-2018, 06:43 AM
Trump can't even get his own heritage right. His grandfather was German. Left his homeland to avoid the draft too and after his marriage, was refused back.Tried to go back in 1906 or there about. What a friggin' idiot!

He may be ignorant, but he's not an idiot. We'd do well to stop underestimating him.

He was smart enough to see racism and bigotry as the path to the White House. I think we are now sure he had outside help, but even when that is proven, and even if he is forced out of the presidency, or convinced not to run for a second term, all his court nominations will remain, unless some way is found to undo them.

John Smith
07-16-2018, 06:48 AM
Perhaps he should be asked whom he believes our friends should be.

I cannot help but compare this to a Monopoly game. A fair deal might be we get the green monopoly and our 'competitor' gets the yellow monopoly. In the world view, we are not limited to the few people playing the game at the moment, and both would do well with the monopoly then get in such trade.

Trump seems more interested in being able to claim he's made a deal, than how good that deal is. He might give up Board Walk and Park Place for the two utilities and brag about the deal.

ccmanuals
07-16-2018, 08:05 AM
Perhaps he should be asked whom he believes our friends should be.

I cannot help but compare this to a Monopoly game. A fair deal might be we get the green monopoly and our 'competitor' gets the yellow monopoly. In the world view, we are not limited to the few people playing the game at the moment, and both would do well with the monopoly then get in such trade.

Trump seems more interested in being able to claim he's made a deal, than how good that deal is. He might give up Board Walk and Park Place for the two utilities and brag about the deal.

Yea, he is quite the real estate "dealer"

Bankruptcy No. 1: The Trump Taj Mahal, 1991
Bankruptcy No. 2: Trump Castle, 1992
Bankruptcy No. 3: Trump Plaza and Casino, 1992
Bankruptcy No. 4: Plaza Hotel, 1992
Bankruptcy No. 5: Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts, 2004
Bankruptcy No. 6: Trump Entertainment Resorts, 2009

LeeG
07-16-2018, 08:10 AM
What monumental stupidity there is in the country to have allowed Trump to be elected and in the GOP to support this abomination in the WhiteHouse.

https://af.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idAFKBN1K60WL

BERLIN (Reuters) - Germany’s foreign minister said on Monday Europe could not rely on Donald Trump and needed to close ranks after the U.S. president called the European Union a “foe” with regard to trade.

We can no longer completely rely on the White House,” Heiko Maas told the Funke newspaper group. “To maintain our partnership with the USA we must readjust it. The first clear consequence can only be that we need to align ourselves even more closely in Europe.”

He added: “Europe must not let itself be divided however sharp the verbal attacks and absurd the tweets may be.”

Reporting by Michelle Martin; Editing by Robin Pomeroy

LeeG
07-16-2018, 08:23 AM
It’s okay, it doesn’t mean anything.


“Well, I think we have a lot of foes. I think the European Union is a foe, what they do to us in trade. Now, you wouldn’t think of the European Union, but they’re a foe. Russia is foe in certain respects. China is a foe economically, certainly they are a foe. But that doesn’t mean they are bad. It doesn’t mean anything. It means that they are competitive. I respect the leaders of those countries. But, in a trade sense, they’ve really taken advantage of us and many of those countries are in NATO and they weren’t paying their bills.”

johnw
07-16-2018, 04:45 PM
Well, Trump is an idiot. ;)

He was fed the term "foe" by the interviewer, and he ran with it. Interviewers, who have days to think up those kind of questions, are able to lead him into saying just about anything.

But the rest of his statement indicates he's talking on about economics, nothing more sinister.

Asked who our foes are, he responded with the European Union. No other president in my lifetime would have said that. Shifting the blame to the interviewer really doesn't cut it.

Canoeyawl
07-16-2018, 05:13 PM
Foe rhymes with Hoe...
just sayin'

Hugh Conway
07-16-2018, 06:26 PM
He may be ignorant, but he's not an idiot. We'd do well to stop underestimating him.

He was smart enough to see racism and bigotry as the path to the White House. I think we are now sure he had outside help, but even when that is proven, and even if he is forced out of the presidency, or convinced not to run for a second term, all his court nominations will remain, unless some way is found to undo them.

you are confusing his instincts - of which he has fantastic instincts for spectacle & showmanship - with intelligence. I think he gets so much because people assume there's some grand master plan, some scheme, and he's a genius. Republicans are baffled by his success and so subsume themselves to his instincts which are a BS'ing showman who'll do anything to close the deal that's surrounded himself with a bunch of other BS'ing frauds. Like Wilbur Ross who suddenly, after the election, lost $3 billion that he'd claimed to have but didn't actually.