The US has gone mad

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  • epoxyboy
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2005
    • 6220
    #1

    The US has gone mad

    They have flooded their country with legions of angry and unemployable young men, but then shoot a poor woman like this. Shame on them.


    ‘You killed her’: Guatemalan shot by US Border Patrol
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/05/indigenous-guatemalan-woman-shot-dead-border-patrol-180526081614753.html
    Rights groups decry killing of Claudia Patricia Gomez Gonzales, 20, who was killed by an agent near the Mexico border.


    I'm expecting a good show of faux outrage here!
    SB take note. I'm sure you'll see the teensy weensy difference in the treatment of these illegal immigrants, where the woman in the US gets shot in the head, but the woman in Sweden (where they are completely mad) is allowed to stay, albeit after appealing her upcoming deportation.

    Pete
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    • PeterSibley
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2001
      • 70993
      #2
      Re: The US has gone mad



      If the US is a signatory to the 1951 Refugee Convention she has a right to be assessed for refugee status and is NOT an illegal. Shooting her is obscene and murder.
      '' You ain't gonna learn what you don't want to know. ''
      Grateful Dead

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        • Peerie Maa
          Old Grey Inquisitive One
          • Oct 2008
          • 62519
          #3
          Re: The US has gone mad

          Originally posted by PeterSibley


          If the US is a signatory to the 1951 Refugee Convention she has a right to be assessed for refugee status and is NOT an illegal. Shooting her is obscene and murder.
          No they are not

          parties to only the 1951 Convention
          parties to only the 1967 Protocol
          parties to both
          non-members
          which does not surprise me. They tend not to sign anything that might Infringe Their Rights to behave like a rogue state.
          It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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            • PeterSibley
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2001
              • 70993
              #4
              Re: The US has gone mad

              I really should have realised, I thought they were.
              '' You ain't gonna learn what you don't want to know. ''
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                • skuthorp
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2002
                  • 73700
                  #5
                  Re: The US has gone mad

                  Even if they were they still would do whatever is advantageous for domestic politics. For the US treaties are optional.

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                    • epoxyboy
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 6220
                      #6
                      Re: The US has gone mad

                      And somewhat predictably, Some Body has demonstrated how full of hot air and faux outrage he was, declaring that Sweden had gone mad when challenging the immigration status of an elderly woman. Apparently the fatal shooting of a young woman in his own country doesn't even produce a postworthy blip of minor angst or concern.
                      I suppose it is possible that he hasn't seen this. I'd imagine that is the most likely explanation.

                      Pete
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                        • johnw
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2001
                          • 28567
                          #7
                          Re: The US has gone mad

                          Originally posted by Peerie Maa
                          No they are not
                          which does not surprise me. They tend not to sign anything that might Infringe Their Rights to behave like a rogue state.
                          That chart shows that the U.S. joined the rest of the world on refugees, officially, in accepting the 1967 protocol. If we lived up to it, we'd be about where Britain is on refugees.

                          Unfortunately, some of our laws are not in sync with our treaty obligations.

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                          The problem isn't what treaties we belong to, it's how well our laws conform to them.
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                            • skuthorp
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2002
                              • 73700
                              #8
                              Re: The US has gone mad

                              Originally posted by skuthorp
                              Even if they were they still would do whatever is advantageous for domestic politics. For the US treaties are optional.
                              Q.E.D.

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